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Conspiracy theories-misplaced fears

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Category: Politics
Forum Name: Conspiracy Theories
Forum Discription: Theories that may or maynot bear relevance
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Printed Date: 16 April 2014 at 1:08am


Topic: Conspiracy theories-misplaced fears
Posted By: Community
Subject: Conspiracy theories-misplaced fears
Date Posted: 20 May 2005 at 5:35pm

Misplaced fear is one of the major reasons for so much injustice in the world. Misplaced fear is fearing someone or something else then The One who created it in mankind, He who created has the most right to it. Let me explain it further, if a man, for instance fears hunger and poverty, he might take the share of others through violence and deceptions, in doing this he does injustice to himself and others. if he had realized that Allah created and sustains everyone and everything he would have sought His sustenance from Him, and feared doing injustice since he knows he would be held accountable for all his actions. This does not mean we have no obligation towards the poor, we should feed the poor, we are His slaves and he gave us more then we need, this is a mercy from Him so we should give to others out of what He has given us. We should strive for His cause.....Someone else might fear losing power, so he opresses and kills others whom he experiances as being a threat, he does injustice to others to keep the(illusion of) power, had he known that to Allah belongs all power, he would not have feared losing it, nor sought after it, but if it is given to him, he would have feared his Lord in it and would be as just as he possibly can, since he knows Allah is just and does not love injustice. The one who fears Allah the most is the most just amongst men and the most knowledgable amongst them.

You may or may not have asked yourself "what does this have to do with conspiracy theories?" the answer is that these theories are rooted in "misplaced" fears, such as the fear of losing power, fear of being humiliated or the fear of poverty. Those with an extreemist agenda usually use these theories to gain power. examples:"they are out to kill every muslim on the planet" (they "play into" the fear of dieing in those who listen to them). " they are here for the oil and our recourses" (here they play into the fear of losing wealth) "they come to invade our land and govern it" (playing into the fear of losing power or being opressed). "those disbelievers have invaded our muslim lands, and they try to humiliate us by setting up the jewish state of israel right in the heart of our islamic land" (playing into the fear of humiliation). Fearing anything or anyone other then Allah, leads to injustice, and eventually humiliation. Fear Allah alone so that it may go well with you...They plot and Allah sees their plot and has a plot against it, And Allah is the best plotter. He is The Merciful.




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Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 31 May 2005 at 10:56am

I love and respect your concern but is it not our lot specially our Emirs who have made it all happen?

And as such it's none other than us who are responsible for not standing to disarm our enemy with absolutely available peaceful means.



Posted By: Community
Date Posted: 01 June 2005 at 12:58pm

people who harbor conspiracy theories, people who believe in conspiracy theories think the truth is something bad and evil because these theories as far as i have seen are usually something bad or evil, the truth can not be bad or evil, since Allah is The Truth(Al Haqq), and those who search for the truth are on a path to Him who is also The Good (Attayib), so basically thinking the truth is bad or evil is harboring bad thoughts towards Allah, here is a part from surat an Al Fath (chapter the Victory, fath has a link to the proverb fataha, which means to open) this is a beautiful chapter.

48:1 Verily We opened for you a manifest and clear Victory(opening): 2. So That Allah forgive for you what has gone forth and what has past from your debt(fault);and to complete His blessing upon you; and to guide you on A Straight Way; 3. And that Allah helps and saves you with a powerful salvation. 4. It is He Who sent down tranquillity into the hearts of the Believers(those who have found safty in Allah), so that they add faith with their faith;- And to Allah belongs the armies of the heavens and the earth; and Allah was Knowing and Wise;- 5. So That He enters the believing men and the believing women into Gardens beneath which rivers flow, to dwell therein for aye, and to cover their bad(ills) from them;- and that was with Allah(in the sight of Allah), a magnificant victory. 6. And that He  torments the Hypocrites, men and women, and the Polytheists men and women, who think evil about Allah. On them is a round of Evil: and Allah has become angry on them: He has cursed them and prepared Hell for them: and evil is it for a destination. 7. And to Allah belongs the armies of the heavens and the earth; and Allah was Exalted in Power and wise.8. We have sent you as witness, a bringer of Glad Tidings(good news), and as a Warner: 9. so that you may believe in Allah and His sent one, that you assist and honour Him, and celebrate His praise morning and evening.




 



Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 2:39pm

Sir, I do respect your opinion but should we now understand that "conspiracy" is a redundant or perhaps an obsolete word? It means nothing. It can't be applied to anything. There has never been any conspiracy ever in our world and all conspiracies hereby cease to exist once we replace it with the noble term "misplaced fear?

But the sad thing is that most of my British friends think that their Prime Minister was in conspiracy with the White House, which they now call the White Wash House. It will be a bit of a task for me to explain to them the Downing Street's spin at trying to find an excuse for the Iraq war:

http://www.downingstreetmemo.com - http://www.downingstreetmemo.com

Should I inform them that it was nothing but just a wee bit of misplaced fear? Plus please advise me as I am waiting for the morning to phone the Oxford English Dictionary people to delete this word from their next edition. And replace it with Misplaced Fear or have you coined some new one?

I feel you must get the next Noble Prize for such a discovery.



Posted By: Community
Date Posted: 12 June 2005 at 8:54pm

 

 Securing energy for The United states and Britain, and freeing the iraqi people from an opressive regime. See you will not be able to wage a war without financial resources, with this war some go for the oil(the war booty) and some go for liberating the iraqi people, both agree on doing something but with different reasons. Ever heard of someone asking the prophet who fights for the cause of Allah? and that the prophet replied some fight for the war booty, some fight for honor but the one who fights so that His word will be the highest and their word the lowest is the one who fights for the cause of Allah. So a war can be waged while the causes of those waging it are different, same with the war in iraq and afghanistan. As for convincing people to aprove of a war...there are ways to do that, they chose to use the misplaced fear of people, because most people do not fear Allah alone. They thought that would be the best way for them to achieve their particular goals. The sad thing about the US is that those in charge trusted on consumerism to achieve a prosperous state, they allowed their people to be overly exposed to immoral ways of life through the media(movies and tv) these ways of life are connected to a higher consumption of goods and services. The side effect of this is that most people are kept on a low moral standard by this exposion, this means that their only goals are fulfilling their basic desires and living up to an image they try to copy. The United States had the unique place in history of being far from their opressors(the british monarchy) and actually having a chance to rise up against them, fight them and be victorious, so it is understandable that some wish to help those less fortunate, those who are not far from their opressors and have no chance to rise up against them, but the sad part is that it lacks people, soldiers of high moral and physical standards to fight for this cause, most are too busy with living "the life" they are exposed to, they do not wish to die for a higher cause so you will hear them say things like "aah it's all about the oil, it's just about money" that is their excuse and that is all they wish to see. They do not understand something else then self interest, so that is all they see or let themselves see in a situation. This is because of those in charge trusting too much on consumerism without putting real effort in guarding morals. A dangerous situation.



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 10:06am
Originally posted by Whisper

I love and respect your concern but is it not our lot specially our Emirs who have made it all happen?

And as such it's none other than us who are responsible for not standing to disarm our enemy with absolutely available peaceful means.

Who is "our enemy"? and how do you see disarming this enemy with "absolutly available peaceful means?



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 26 October 2006 at 1:53pm

Who is "our enemy"? and how do you see disarming this enemy with "absolutly available peaceful means?

You will agree that such serious studies do involve high consultancy charges, confidentiality and non-circumvention clauses. If you are still serious, send us your solicitor's details and I will place a viable agreement with them!!



Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 27 October 2006 at 3:59pm
Originally posted by Community

Misplaced fear is one of the major reasons for so much injustice in the world. Misplaced fear is fearing someone or something else then The One who created it in mankind, He who created has the most right to it. Let me explain it further, if a man, for instance fears hunger and poverty, he might take the share of others through violence and deceptions, in doing this he does injustice to himself and others. if he had realized that Allah created and sustains everyone and everything he would have sought His sustenance from Him, and feared doing injustice since he knows he would be held accountable for all his actions. This does not mean we have no obligation towards the poor, we should feed the poor, we are His slaves and he gave us more then we need, this is a mercy from Him so we should give to others out of what He has given us. We should strive for His cause.....Someone else might fear losing power, so he opresses and kills others whom he experiances as being a threat, he does injustice to others to keep the(illusion of) power, had he known that to Allah belongs all power, he would not have feared losing it, nor sought after it, but if it is given to him, he would have feared his Lord in it and would be as just as he possibly can, since he knows Allah is just and does not love injustice. The one who fears Allah the most is the most just amongst men and the most knowledgable amongst them.

You may or may not have asked yourself "what does this have to do with conspiracy theories?" the answer is that these theories are rooted in "misplaced" fears, such as the fear of losing power, fear of being humiliated or the fear of poverty. Those with an extreemist agenda usually use these theories to gain power. examples:"they are out to kill every muslim on the planet" (they "play into" the fear of dieing in those who listen to them). " they are here for the oil and our recourses" (here they play into the fear of losing wealth) "they come to invade our land and govern it" (playing into the fear of losing power or being opressed). "those disbelievers have invaded our muslim lands, and they try to humiliate us by setting up the jewish state of israel right in the heart of our islamic land" (playing into the fear of humiliation). Fearing anything or anyone other then Allah, leads to injustice, and eventually humiliation. Fear Allah alone so that it may go well with you...They plot and Allah sees their plot and has a plot against it, And Allah is the best plotter. He is The Merciful.

Salaams and Bismillah,

Ever heard that overanalysis leads to paralysis?

People are suffereing and dying all over the world from the conspiracies of the RICH (and ugly) against the poor (and beautiful).  And those who expose the bald-face lies of the conspirators will be blesssed by our Loving, Lord in whose hands Time rests.



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.


Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 11:35am
Originally posted by herjihad

 

Salaams and Bismillah,

Ever heard that overanalysis leads to paralysis?

People are suffereing and dying all over the world from the conspiracies of the RICH (and ugly) against the poor (and beautiful).  And those who expose the bald-face lies of the conspirators will be blesssed by our Loving, Lord in whose hands Time rests.

People are suffering and dying because of "the ugly" poor too...without "the ugly" poor there would be no "ugly" rich.



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 06 November 2006 at 12:33pm

People are suffering and dying because of "the ugly" poor too...without "the ugly" poor there would be no "ugly" rich.

Hija, please, worry not about the one who penned down this, he sure lives on some planet of his own.



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 11:36am
Originally posted by Whisper

Who is "our enemy"? and how do you see disarming this enemy with "absolutly available peaceful means?

You will agree that such serious studies do involve high consultancy charges, confidentiality and non-circumvention clauses. If you are still serious, send us your solicitor's details and I will place a viable agreement with them!!

are you offering me a college education?

high consultancy charges...how high exactly are we talking about?

my solicitor's details... i do not exactly know what you mean by solicitor....



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 1:38pm

high consultancy charges...how high exactly are we talking about? Exceptionally high, my friend, I charge 2000 an hour. Euros only, I don't accept dollars.

Attorney is called a solicitor in real or, say, in queen's English



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 1:46pm

So i need to send you the details of my attorney? how so is that requiered?



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 7:08pm

So i need to send you the details of my attorney? how so is that requiered?

Sir, you asked me some interesting question just a post or two ago.



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 7:44pm

Mr Starcomm:

How can you state that you are in the UK and not know what a solicitor is? hmmm, too many visits by too many bobbies...

And what is your favourite colour?



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 07 November 2006 at 8:02pm

How can you state that you are in the UK and not know what a solicitor is? hmmm, too many visits by too many bobbies...

Hamsheer, that's the only reasom why I am charging him for asking me the single most st**id question ever asked by any poster. I have a feel about his location.



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:44am

..... why is asking who "our" enemy is a st**id question?

what if i stated that shaitaan(satan) is our true enemy and asked how to disarm him by completely peaceful means?

Or do you believe that people are more worthy of enemity then the arch enemy? i guess for "materialists" it is easier to hold as enemies other (material) humanbeings then to hold as enemy the true enemy who can not be seen.

 



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 5:48am
Originally posted by Maryah

Mr Starcomm:

How can you state that you are in the UK and not know what a solicitor is? hmmm, too many visits by too many bobbies...

And what is your favourite colour?

Ms. Maryah,

I am not from the UK, i believe i accidentally clicked UK when i was filling out my info.

I do not really have a favourite color...if i did have one i believe it would be green.



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 10:10am
Originally posted by StarComm


I am not from the UK, i believe i accidentally clicked UK when i was filling out my info.




Always the "accident"

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Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 11:03am

Always the "accident"

And, terrible life never allows us to correct our mistakes . . .



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 11:45am
Originally posted by Whisper

Always the "accident"

And, terrible life never allows us to correct our mistakes . . .

what do you mean by "terrible life"?

Anyway what does it matter where i am from men?



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:03pm
I wish you the best Whisper.

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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 7:06pm

Anyway what does it matter where i am from men?

I like some of your posts, in the other string. I also believe in harmony between all faiths. And, all these faiths have lived together, at peace, for far longer than they haven't. El Andalus and Turkiye Osmanli bear witness to centuries of their oneness.

But, my friend, if it didn't matter where you come from, wouldn't you have simply told us that?

You made it matter, we didn't.



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 9:42pm

I really thought Maryah made it matter, afterall she was the analyst stating that since i did not know what solicitor means that i am not from the British United kingdom...Are we obliged to state where we are from? or are we all in consensus as to what "The United Kingdom" truely means?

I view mankind as one, we all suffer from the same problems although the form in which these problems manifest may be different. We all suffer from the troubles of fear.....pride, envy, greed etc.

The sollution of the problem on a broad level is to accept eachother as alike eventhough we are different.



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]


Posted By: Whisper
Date Posted: 08 November 2006 at 11:30pm

All these problems arise when we refuse or forget to tell the truth! I am sure you are not an American, that's the only thing worth hiding these days.

Whoever made it matter, it's a very basic law of nature that somehow, truth shows up.



Posted By: StarComm
Date Posted: 09 November 2006 at 6:06am

True,

truth is what remains and falsehood disappears....

 



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And that He is Lord of Al shi'ra(The Star Sirius), And That He destroyed The tribe of 'Ad that was first.

[chapter the star verse 49-50]



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