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Topic: Need Help and advice
Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Subject: Need Help and advice
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 8:29am

Salam guyz,

I'll be short and to the point. I need ur advice abt a very serious matter. I met up with this guy in the university a couple of days back, he's from yugoslavia or something. He told me that although he is a muslim by name but he he doen't know anything about Islam because of the environment he grew up in and now his christian friends are trying to convert him to christianity. I need ur advice as to how i can help him, I asked a lot of my muslim friend's to be extra nice to him and treat him very kindly. I don't know if its working r not but any sugeestions????

thnx  



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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 9:01am
Originally posted by .:: SoHaIB ::.

now his christian friends are trying to convert him to christianity. thnx  

And you know this from just a couple of days of meeting him?  

Has he told you so?

And how much do you know of and about his friends?

Are they converting or teaching or just talking about christianity ?



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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 9:13am
Originally posted by .:: SoHaIB ::.

I need ur advice as to how i can help him

you don't, unless he ask for information on islam, otherwise it can be taken as you are trying to convert him. If he wants to know something then be there.

I asked a lot of my muslim friend's to be extra nice to him and treat him very kindly.

just be yourselves.



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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~


Posted By: abuzaid
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 11:26am

Don't get discourage by angel's comment.

Excactly what help you require. If you want stuff about Islam and comparative religion, I think you get many on the net.



Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 1:49pm
Oo Angel man ..or woman u got it all wrong. This guy is not my friend but i know him. He wants to know more about islam.... HE told me that his friends are trying to convert him to christianity and he doesn't know anything about islam....yeah and try to be kinda positive k.

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Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 24 March 2007 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by abuzaid

Don't get discourage by angel's comment.

Excactly what help you require. If you want stuff about Islam and comparative religion, I think you get many on the net.

thnx abuzaid, I have all the stuff but i just wanna know how can i help to bring him more closer to islam. If i just give him lots of books, he might take it as a burden cuz he is a new guy. He came to some prayers and we are trying make him fit in the community. I hope that helps him, What would u do in my place ??



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Posted By: Alwardah
Date Posted: 25 March 2007 at 5:41am

As Salamu Alaikum

I agree with Sr Angel just be yourself.

A Muslim who is truly a Muslim is the best teacher by his own example.

It's human nature, after a while we tend to imitate our friends.

Salams

ps. there is a lot of good article on this forum as well and in the main section of IC



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“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)


Posted By: abuzaid
Date Posted: 25 March 2007 at 6:18am

Ok Brother .:: SoHaIB ::.

You are right, you should not be a burden on him. You or someone knowledgeable person should try to get closer to him in person. I mean you should be personal freind of him for the sake of Allah SW. and clear him about the stance of few fundamental things of Islam. If you make him clear in these fundamentals no one can convert him.

1. Tawheed, you should make him clear about Tawheed of Ruboobiyyah, uloohiyyah, Taheed of self and Tawheed in names and attributes of Allah SW. This should be made clear in the specific comtext of trinity (or tritheism). Also you to have make clear that Allah is perfect and any imperfection cannot be attributed to Him.

2. Explain the Islamic concept of Prophethood.

3. Explain the concept of hereafter, conditions for salvation and reward and punishment.

 

while explaining these three points you may have to explain, concept of angels, holy scripture etc.

Finally, guidance is in the hand of Allah SW, you should pray for him and ask others to pray for his guidance.

May Allah guide this brother and all of us on The true path .

 

Those who are trying to tell that we shall only be example for others and shouldn't try to propagate light of truth, should know that enjoining Good and forbidding evil is one of the foremost duty of all the muslims. And to put the condition that we should do it only by action and avoid inviting others towards truth is just an additional restriction from you and not from Allah SW.



Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 25 March 2007 at 4:58pm
I already did that man

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Posted By: number41
Date Posted: 25 March 2007 at 5:19pm

   .:: SoHaIB ::.  I already did that man

Hey man, you makes me laugh! Gr8! Keep the party going with some

Basic Islamic Beliefs.....man

Hence, consider every Muslim an employee at the business: 'Ministry of God' (ie. life) and they have to do their job and follow the rules and regulations laid out in the rule and guide book (ie, the Koran) or they will be demoted (ie. punished in this life or in the hereafter) or fired (ie. go to hell). On the other hand, the good employees will get a bonus (ie. blessing), and after the end of their work-life (ie. death), good pensions (ie. Jannah).

 

All the best...and gud luck...man

 

 



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'When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Path becomes clear' – Rumi


Posted By: Neima Abduljeli
Date Posted: 26 March 2007 at 2:51am

Aselamu Aleykum Werahmetulahi Weberkatuh

Bismilah Alhamdulilah Aselatu Weselamu Ala Seyidina Wenebiyina Muhamedin We Ala Alihi Wesehbihi Weselim

As Abu Zeid said it, just try to show him the right path.  If he is choosen by Allah to be a muslim your effort will bear fruit . If not at least you performed your duty as number 41 said. So rely on Allah and ask his help and guidance in making Dawah to this guy.  Insha-Allah he will be one of us.

Weselamu Aleykum werahmetulahi weberkatuh. 



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Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 27 March 2007 at 5:12pm

Did that too

Any more ideas ppl.... some practical stuff would be great



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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:26am
Originally posted by abuzaid

Don't get discourage by angel's comment.

What is discouraging ?



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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~


Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 6:32am

Originally posted by .:: SoHaIB ::.

Oo Angel man ..or woman

woman

u got it all wrong. This guy is not my friend but i know him.

Actually i don't think i got it all wrong, i never refered to the guy as your friend, you might like to re-read  

He wants to know more about islam.... HE told me that his friends are trying to convert him to christianity and he doesn't know anything about islam....yeah and try to be kinda positive k.

okay



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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~


Posted By: Aminah07
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 7:05am

ASA,

i just wanted to add in our city over the last 2-3 years there has been a large number of Albanian muslims moving here.

i've run into several of the srs' that are muslim but not practicing Islam. they only want to live the dream of western life. it's their choice to practice or not. so if they don't want to practice than that is there decision but if they ever ask me my advice i will be honest but in a nice way for them to understand why i live the way i do.

the best thing to do is to set a good example and be kind it's not your place to judge but offer support if they ask for it.

Aminah



Posted By: number41
Date Posted: 29 March 2007 at 5:59pm

Aminah07 wrote: the best thing to do is to set a good example and be kind it's not your place to judge but offer support if they ask for it.

As a Muslim, we are living in a constant 'magnifying lenses'. Our movements are being closely monitored by ALLAH. So it is our duty to perform our conduct as Muslim should. THE BEST ONES. It is not to get the lenses distorted in any manner to whomever ever interact in our daily activities if we fear ALLAH.

Inshaallah.



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'When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Path becomes clear' – Rumi


Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 30 March 2007 at 8:29am
Originally posted by Angel

think i got it all wrong, i never refered to the guy as your friend, you might like to re-read  

yeah i guess...my bad



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Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 30 March 2007 at 8:33am
41 and aminah true and thanx for the advice all of you....i'll try to do what i can, the rest is upto ASLLAH (SWT )...May ALLAH guide him and all of us...Ameen

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Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 30 March 2007 at 10:46pm
Originally posted by .:: SoHaIB ::.

Salam guyz,

I'll be short and to the point. I need ur advice abt a very serious matter. I met up with this guy in the university a couple of days back, he's from yugoslavia or something. He told me that although he is a muslim by name but he he doen't know anything about Islam because of the environment he grew up in and now his christian friends are trying to convert him to christianity. I need ur advice as to how i can help him, I asked a lot of my muslim friend's to be extra nice to him and treat him very kindly. I don't know if its working r not but any sugeestions????

thnx  

Bismillah and Salaams,

As a Muslim I can love and do the Christian prophets including Jesus.  But it is a rare Christian who can love our Prophet Muhammad.  Indeed, part of the doctrine of many Churches teach that he was an evil man, AstagfirrAllah. 

Islaam is so beautiful because:  Allah is neither male nor female and men and women are equal before Allah based on our piety, not our gender.

We are taught to love and forgive and that Allah, The Forgiver, will forgive us if our intention is pure, which is His determination.  We don't need a human blood sacrifice for our Loving Lord's forgiveness and mercy.

So many beautiful things in Islaam.  Maybe this guy is lonely and wants some companions.  and maybe there just aren't many Muslim buddies around for him.



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.


Posted By: .:: SoHaIB ::.
Date Posted: 31 March 2007 at 11:10am

salam bro

Al-hamdulilah we have quite a community of muslim students here and we are trying to help him but i have noticed that he has stopped coming to the mosque rr maybe he is busy r something .... but i haven't heard from him in a month, i dunno what to do... i did my best ... perhaps could have done more



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Posted By: number41
Date Posted: 31 March 2007 at 4:09pm

Man....you can do one thing.....call him up......and ask him for a dinner with the rest of you. Make him part of your teammates....maybe you can start going to the gym together....think of something.....I know you can! Gud Luck!.....

 



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'When one bright intellect meets another bright intellect, the light increases and the Path becomes clear' – Rumi



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