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Topic: Koran says muslims should help israel
Posted By: Dalandau
Subject: Koran says muslims should help israel
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 2:25pm

The Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land and Allah said to the children of Israel: dwell securely in the Promised land"
A comparative analysis of Koranic and Torah sources reveals an agreement on the point that the link existing between the children of Israel and the Land of Canaan depends directly on God Almightys will, toward which we are asked to submit to Allah constituted the offspring of Jacob as heirs off the promised land. From King Feisal of Iraq to King Abdullah I of Trans-Jordan, many Islamic voices that had been pro-Jewish were silenced and the irrational hostility toward Zionism was introduced. Being against Jewish sovereignty over Palestine is denying the history of revelation and prophecy. The head of an Islamic council of scholars, Sheikh Abdul Palazzi, continues in this vein and notes that the Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land before the last judgment, where is says: and therefore we (Allah) said to the children of Israel, Dwell securely in the Promised land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd. (Koran 17-105)

Remember when Moses said to his people, Oh my people, remember the presents that G-d gave to you when he appointed prophets from among you, and made you kings, and gave to you what he had never given to anyone else in the world (a clearly mapped out homeland in Israel). Enter then my people the holy land that God has commanded for you. Again, in the sections called Hobbling 15; Cow 44-116; Smoke 30, the Koran recognizes the particularity of Israel, with its unparalleled gifts, including the Promised Land. In the section called Table-23, the Koran insists that the Holy Land was given to Israel. In the section called Jonah 93, the Koran states that Allah settled the Jews there and in the section Cow 60,247, even rebukes Israel for not fighting hard enough for Her land.

Islam on Judaism."The Koran recognizes the teachings of Jewish prophets and the continued validity of the Torah" The Koran, in section Table 48, recognizes the teachings of the Jewish prophets and even the validity of later sages and Rabbis. Other parts of the Koran recognize Davids kingdom and his Psalms, and he is confirmed as divine viceroy and judge on earth (Zad 19,25;Cow 252). Abraham is called a true Muslim as are the prophets (who are also Rabbis), even though they kept the Sabbath and prayed in the direction of Jerusalem. (Kings I, 8: 30-42). ( Koranic sources include Imram 60, Pilgrimage 77 Cattle 162, Table 48, Cow 140 and 143, Greeks 5, Hobbling 31, Believers 76. )

Interestingly, just as Bahai, Christian etc... sources rely on Hebrew scriptures, so does the Koran, and specifically, it speaks of Israels return to the land and to the holy city Jerusalem. (Bani Israel 8, 105). The Koran also demands that faithful Muslims help the Jews and their return to Zion. Finally, the Koran insists that there is continued validity to the book of the Jews (Jonah 38, Bee 45, 47, Cow 172, Table 52, Believers 56, etc). There are several sources in the Koran that recognize that there exist different religious rituals to reach God; especially the significance of good deeds, and the importance to God of love and forgiveness. (Sura 49, Inner rooms 13, Sura 109, The Heretics 6, Sura 5, Table 48, Sura 9-29, Sura Elchajrath 13-49.).



 

Another interesting fact, not known to many is that opting for Ishmael over Isaac satisfied the political need to assert Arab preeminence in the Muslim world. Substituting Ishmael at the binding of Isaac likewise satisfies a desire to negate the centrality of Jewish figures like Moses etc. By the way, Moses is the individual most cited in the Koran. The great orthodox Muslim scholar, Ata Ibn As-Saib, finally concluded after a lifetime of research that the sacrifice was indeed Isaac!!!! Other classic texts such as Ibn El-Arabis Illuminations of Mecca (12 th century) which shows the importance of coexistence are suffocated by modern twisted Islam.

A Muslim cleric once said, Ibrahim was granted Isaac with a divine promise, that Isaac would be granted Jacob (Abraham-Passia, page 42) Also is cited in the Koran: When he had turned away from them and from those whom they worshipped besides God, we bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob, and each one of them became a prophet. (Koran 19-49) Furthermore, the Koran states that these two were gifts granted to Abraham. And we bestowed upon him Isaac, and as an additional gift, (a grandson): Jacob. And we made righteous men of every one of them. (Koran 21-72).




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Posted By: ak_m_f
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 4:16pm
I cant read... its too big

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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 4:41pm
for more information on how it happend go to my second post


Posted By: rami
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 7:56pm
Bi ismillair rahmanir raheem

on earth we have a thing called "time", combine that with a thing called "context" and you will understand something called historical context.

the year is 2007 roughly 3000+ years of history have occured since then.

excuse my bluntness.


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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:04pm

Words of the lord are forever

correct me if im wrong



Posted By: rami
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:09pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

His words are eternal but this little thing called "context" limits there aplication to a certain time and period.

These are the rules of language which god himself taught to man.




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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:23pm

wake up we are brothers!!!

once upon a time before the british colonialisme changed islam we were working together for thesame shared goal!!!! Today at the age of the internet lets correct the last century together!!!Today ordinary people can read  are educated and can be free to express themself

get more information in my other forum



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 8:35pm

Real Islam has a common link to the Jews.
"The Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land and Allah said to the children of Israel: dwell securely in the Promised land"
A comparative analysis of Koranic and Torah sources reveals an agreement on the point that the link existing between the children of Israel and the Land of Canaan depends directly on God Almightys will, toward which we are asked to submit to Allah constituted the offspring of Jacob as heirs off the promised land. From King Feisal of Iraq to King Abdullah I of Trans-Jordan, many Islamic voices that had been pro-Jewish were silenced and the irrational hostility toward Zionism was introduced. Being against Jewish sovereignty over Palestine is denying the history of revelation and prophecy. The head of an Islamic council of scholars, Sheikh Abdul Palazzi, continues in this vein and notes that the Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land before the last judgment, where is says: and therefore we (Allah) said to the children of Israel, Dwell securely in the Promised land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd. (Koran 17-105)

Remember when Moses said to his people, Oh my people, remember the presents that G-d gave to you when he appointed prophets from among you, and made you kings, and gave to you what he had never given to anyone else in the world (a clearly mapped out homeland in Israel). Enter then my people the holy land that God has commanded for you. Again, in the sections called Hobbling 15; Cow 44-116; Smoke 30, the Koran recognizes the particularity of Israel, with its unparalleled gifts, including the Promised Land. In the section called Table-23, the Koran insists that the Holy Land was given to Israel. In the section called Jonah 93, the Koran states that Allah settled the Jews there and in the section Cow 60,247, even rebukes Israel for not fighting hard enough for Her land.

Islam on Judaism."The Koran recognizes the teachings of Jewish prophets and the continued validity of the Torah" The Koran, in section Table 48, recognizes the teachings of the Jewish prophets and even the validity of later sages and Rabbis. Other parts of the Koran recognize Davids kingdom and his Psalms, and he is confirmed as divine viceroy and judge on earth (Zad 19,25;Cow 252). Abraham is called a true Muslim as are the prophets (who are also Rabbis), even though they kept the Sabbath and prayed in the direction of Jerusalem. (Kings I, 8: 30-42). ( Koranic sources include Imram 60, Pilgrimage 77 Cattle 162, Table 48, Cow 140 and 143, Greeks 5, Hobbling 31, Believers 76. )

Interestingly, just as Bahai, Christian etc... sources rely on Hebrew scriptures, so does the Koran, and specifically, it speaks of Israels return to the land and to the holy city Jerusalem. (Bani Israel 8, 105). The Koran also demands that faithful Muslims help the Jews and their return to Zion. Finally, the Koran insists that there is continued validity to the book of the Jews (Jonah 38, Bee 45, 47, Cow 172, Table 52, Believers 56, etc). There are several sources in the Koran that recognize that there exist different religious rituals to reach God; especially the significance of good deeds, and the importance to God of love and forgiveness. (Sura 49, Inner rooms 13, Sura 109, The Heretics 6, Sura 5, Table 48, Sura 9-29, Sura Elchajrath 13-49.).



 

Another interesting fact, not known to many is that opting for Ishmael over Isaac satisfied the political need to assert Arab preeminence in the Muslim world. Substituting Ishmael at the binding of Isaac likewise satisfies a desire to negate the centrality of Jewish figures like Moses etc. By the way, Moses is the individual most cited in the Koran. The great orthodox Muslim scholar, Ata Ibn As-Saib, finally concluded after a lifetime of research that the sacrifice was indeed Isaac!!!! Other classic texts such as Ibn El-Arabis Illuminations of Mecca (12 th century) which shows the importance of coexistence are suffocated by modern twisted Islam.

A Muslim cleric once said, Ibrahim was granted Isaac with a divine promise, that Isaac would be granted Jacob (Abraham-Passia, page 42) Also is cited in the Koran: When he had turned away from them and from those whom they worshipped besides God, we bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob, and each one of them became a prophet. (Koran 19-49) Furthermore, the Koran states that these two were gifts granted to Abraham. And we bestowed upon him Isaac, and as an additional gift, (a grandson): Jacob. And we made righteous men of every one of them. (Koran 21-72).

Palestinian Arabs have been offered a state many times,starting with plans during the British Mandate which the Arabs rejected.The United Nation partition plan of 1947 included a nation for Palestinians.They only had let Israel live in peace.Arabs rejected all these plans,up to and including at Camp David in 2000 and Taba in 2001,and kept the armed struggle going.From 1948 to 1967 the West Bank,historically Judea and Samaria was held by Jordan,the Gaza Strip was held by Egypt.There were no "occupied territories",no"settlements"or any of the other excuses used today to attack Israel.But there was also no peace.Palestinians and neighboring Arab countries continuously attacked Israel and worked for the destruction of Israel.There was no call for Palestinian independence or statehood even though it could have been done by Jordan with the stroke of a pen.THERE WILL be an independent Palestinian Arab state when the Palestinian Arabs find leadership that is committed to peace with Israel.

The Arab population displaced by the 1948 war has been greatly exaggerated.The actual figure is no more than 500000. Even more important is the cause of that displacement.The 1948 war was declared against Israel by all of its Arab neighbors.The refugees left Israel at the urging of those Arab states. They were told to leave because their homeland was about to be liberated by Arab forces.Of course,we all know Israel survived.Who is morally and legally culpable for creating those refugees?I would suggest it is the Arab states,not Israel.Far from being mistreated,the Arab population in Israel and in the territories administered by Israel has been freer than the population in any Arab state.Arabs in Israel vote.They elect leaders to the Knesset.have their own political parties.have their own newspapers.They have full rights to citizenship.They are free to speak their minds.

I personally have many israeli muslim and druze friends in israel and as you probably understood yes iam jewish and we live in peace and respect each other. I have lived in bellgium and i must say we jews and muslims have so much in common

There is so much hatefull bias press have U been in Israel/Palestine yourself?

latest example


As the Israel Antiquities Authority begins construction work at the Mugrabi Gate in Jerusalem in order to make the area structurally sound and safe for visitors, Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh has called on Muslims "to defend the al-Aqsa Mosque." Hamas has also charged Israel with "demolishing parts of the Aqsa mosque" on its website.
Although the works are not taking place on the Temple Mount , the Hamas website accused "the Israeli occupation government of conspiring to finally destroy the Aqsa Mosque, the third holiest Muslim shrine world-wide, and to install the alleged Third Temple on its ruins."
"The Aqsa Mosque is in real danger and needs Muslim support to defend and spare it the rancorous Israeli conspiracies", Palestinian Chief Justice Tayseer al-Tamimi declared, calling on Muslim masses to assemble to "protect" the site.
And the Head of the Islamic Movement in Israel, Sheikh Raed Salah, claims to have "documents and photos" proving that "the demolition of the pathway and the two rooms under the Buraq Mosque will expose both the Aqsa Mosque and Buraq Mosque inside Al-Haram Al-Sharif (Noble Sanctuary) to extreme danger as Israeli settlers will easily access both of them," the Hamas website added on Tuesday.
Calls have been issued for Palestinians to "unite their guns in defense of al-Aqsa," while the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades have threatened terrorist attacks if the work continue.
Certainly, small, far-Right fringe groups exist within Israel that have set their sights on the mosque, and on rebuilding the Temple using physical force - but the State of Israel has devoted considerable resources of its security arms to keeping such extreme elements in check.
Why do Palestinian leaders continue to insist that the al-Aqsa mosque is "in danger?" The answer may lie in the shiny gold covering of the Dome of the Rock itself.
A history of false charges
Since the 1920s, Palestinian leaders have used the site as a rallying cry to wage war against the Jewish presence in Israel, and to try and gain support from Muslims abroad. The Palestinian prime minister today is continuing a 90-year tradition of incitement, which began with the Palestinian Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini.
Husseini, who is widely seen as the father of Palestinian nationalism, used the al-Nabi festival, which commemorates the defeat of the Crusaders, and conquest of Jerusalem by the Islamic general Sala'ah al-Din, to instigate anti-Jewish riots in April 1920, even before he became a mufti. His message was simple: Jews are the new Crusaders, and Islam must re-invade Jerusalem.
After being elected mufti (through dubious strong-arm tactics, according to some sources,) and becoming head of the Supreme Muslim Council, Haj Amin embarked on an ambitious project of restoring the al-Haram (Dome of the Rock) and the al-Sharif (al-Aqsa Mosque).
By doing so, Haj Amin hoped to draw the attention of millions of Muslims to the Palestinian cause, and to gain material and financial support so that he could fight the growing Zionist Jewish community in Israel.
Members of the Islamic Council traveled around Muslim countries in the 1920s to gain support, with one delegation to Mecca stating: "The Islamic Palestine Nation, which has been guarding al-Aqsa and (the) Holy Rock ever since 1300 years, declares to the Muslim world that the Holy Places are in great danger on account of the horrible Zionist aggressions."
Like clockwork
These missions resulted in a successful fund-raising drive, which led to the gold covering of the Dome of the Rock.
One British official in Mandatory Palestine noted at the time a "remarkable psychological change..." and a "stirring of a new feeling in the Muslims of this country" following the restoration.
Haj Amin also had photos with the Star of David superimposed on the Dome of the Rock distributed widely, in order to convince Muslims of a "Jewish plot" against the site.
In April 1929, Haj Amin helped stoke riots by issuing a Friday afternoon sermon at the al-Aqsa Mosque, reemphasizing the charge of a Jewish bid to take over the Islamic holy sites.
The incitement continued right through into the 1990s, when in 1997, Yasser Arafat declared: "I am ringing the bell of danger to warn against the Jewish plan to build the Temple of Solomon in the place where today stands Al Aqsa Mosque, after removing the mosque."
Similar incitement flooded the airwaves of the Palestinian Authority following Ariel Sharon's visit to the Temple Mount in September 2000, launching what has now become known as the al-Aqsa Intifada.
Like clockwork, warnings of an Israeli plot to destroy the mosque are issued by the Hamas government every few days, ensuring that the flames of unfounded paranoia and incitement against Israel remain lit.

The previous mufti of Jerusalem prior to 1920 was actually pro zionism

From the examples given above, the reader has already been shown part of the distortion that has occurred within mainstream Islam. Islams misinterpretation of history and it's current unjust anti-Semitism, it's position on Jihad and conduct toward other nations in general, and it's conduct to the citizens within their own nations; these examples all reveal the rot that has invaded Islam and covered the face of the true and original Islamic doctrines. What are these real doctrines then?

As intelligence analyst Bruce Brill and Arye Gallin (of Root and Branch Association) never tire of pointing out, true Islam accepts Jewish sovereignty over the land of Israel and respects Judaism as well. What if it were finally realized by all, and publicized by the media that true Islam demands of it faithful followers to actively support Jewish sovereignty in the land of Israel? Such a realization would bring instant peace. Fulfilling the real practices and observances of true Islam by devout Muslims under the leadership of truly devout leaders would make the Israeli- Palestinian conflict a non-issue.

Real Islam on suicide bombings
"The slaughter of children to protect wicked regimes

Certain scholars of Islam, do point out truths relating to peace with Israel and with Jews. Recently for instance, a council of Islamic scholars issued a statement condemning violence against Israelis.

Allah will bless the nations who condemn those parents, teachers and terrorist criminals who poison the minds of children with hatred and violence.
" {They are referring to the sick twisted practice by certain Muslims who are willing and eager (mistakenly in the name of Allah) to send their children to death "through acts of fitnah" (apostasy and sedition}.
"The suicidal sacrifice and slaughter of these children are in no way shape or form a manifestation of Islam but rather are a tool used by wicked regimes, who take advantage of ignorant people and send them to their death, all with the goal of defending the regime and keeping it in power. This has nothing to do with Islam, nor any other religion for that matter."

Real Islam on the Zionist entity "There is no such precedent or doctrine preventing the recognition of a Zionist state" The cultural institute of the Italian Islamic community, is another example of true scholarship. Their conclusions sum up the words of a learned sheikh: Classical Islamic source do not support the so-called Islamic anti-Zionism preached by radical groups. The idea of making Islam a factor that prevents Arabs from recognizing the sovereign right of Jews over Palestine, is an artificial construct. There is no such reference nor precedent in classic Islamic sources. Islam-based Anti-Zionism is a modern convenience, a rewriting of history that helps to explain and justify otherwise illogical positions and unspeakably cruel acts.

Another voice of truth and logic in the area of Arab-Jewish relations is the voice of the greatest Islamic scholar of the 20 th century, Sheikh Mohammed al-Azhar. He openly preached peace and cooperation between Muslims and Jews. The fame of this Sheikh scholarship was that he was able to silence those who say peace with Israel is against Islam. As shown in the paragraph above, true Islam and Judaism should have no problem living in peace and there should be no problem with the existence of this small Israeli State. Most of the Islam publicized and taught today has turned rotten by the infiltration of Fascist, communist and Nazi texts.

And yes it is the same mufti that travelled to berlin during ww2 and planed to build an extermination camp in Palestine with the NAZIS

Who was the Grand Mufti, Haj Muhammed Amin al-Husseini?

Grand Mufti with Hitler

Grand Mufti with Hitler

Muhammed Amin al-Husseini [many spelling variations] was born in 1893 (or 1895), the son of the Mufti of Jerusalem and member of an esteemed, aristocratic family. The Husseinis were one of the richest and most powerful of all the rivalling clans in the Ottoman province known as the Judaean part of Palestine.

Amin al-Husseini studied religious law at al-Azhar University, Cairo, and attended the Istanbul School of Administration. In 1913 he went to Mecca on a pilgrimage, earning the honorary title of "Haj". He voluntarily joined the Ottoman Turkish army in World War I but returned to Jerusalem in 1917 and expediently switched sides to aid the victorious British. He acquired the reputation as a violent, fanatical anti-Zionist zealot and was jailed by the British for instigating a http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_riots_1920-21.php - 1920 Arab attack against Jews who were praying at the Western Wall.

The first Palestine High Commissioner. Sir Herbert Samuel arrived in Palestine on July 1, 1920. He was a weak administrator who was too ready to compromise and appease the extremist, nationalistic Arab minority led by Haj Amin al-Husseini. When the existing Arab Mufti of Jerusalem (religious leader) died in 1921, Samuels was influenced by anti-Zionist British officials on his staff. He pardoned al-Husseini and, in January 1922, appointed him as the new Mufti, and even invented a new title of Grand Mufti. He was simultaneously made President of a newly created Supreme Muslim Council. Al-Husseini thereby became the religious and political leader of the Arabs.

The appointment of the young al-Husseini as Mufti was a seminal event. Prior to his rise to power, there were active Arab factions supporting cooperative development of Palestine involving Arabs and Jews. But al-Husseini would have none of that; he was devoted to driving Jews out of Palestine, without compromise, even if it set back the Arabs 1000 years.

William Ziff, in his book "The Rape of Palestine," summarizes:

  • Implicated in the [1920] disturbances was a political adventurer named Haj Amin al Husseini. Haj Amin, was sentenced by a British court to fifteen years hard labor. Conveniently allowed to escape by the police, he was a fugitive in Syria. Shortly after, the British then allowed him to return to Palestine where, despite the opposition of the muslim High Council who regarded him as a hoodlum, Haj Amin was appointed by the British High Commissioner as Grand Mufti of Jerusalem for life. [P. 22]

Al-Husseini represented newly emerging proponents of militant, Palestinian Arab nationalism, a previously unknown concept. Once he was in power, he began a campaign of terror and intimidation against anyone opposed to his rule and policies. He killed Jews at every opportunity, but also eliminated Arabs who did not support his campaign of violence. Husseini was not willing to negotiate or make any kind of compromise for the sake of peace.

As a young man, al-Husseini worked with a native Jew, Abbady, who documented this comment:

  • Remember, Abbady, this was and will remain an Arab land. We do not mind you natives of the country, but those alien invaders, the Zionists, will be massacred to the last man. We want no progress, no prosperity. Nothing but the sword will decide the fate of this country.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_riots_1929.php - In 1929, major Arab riots were instigated against the Jews of Palestine . They began when al-Husseini falsely accused Jews of defiling and endangering local mosques, including al-Aqsa. The call went out to the Arab masses: "Izbah Al-Yahud!" "Slaughter the Jews!" After the killing of Jews in Hebron, the Mufti disseminated photographs of slaughtered Jews with the claim that the dead were Arabs killed by Jews.

In April, 1936 six prominent Arab leaders formed the Arab Higher Committee, with the Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini as head of the organization, joining forces to protest British support of Zionist progress in Palestine. In the same month, riots broke out in Jaffa commencing a three-year period of violence and civil strife in Palestine that is known as the http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_riots_1936-39.php - Arab Revolt . The Arab Higher Committee led the campaign of terrorism against Jewish and British targets.

Using the turmoil of the Arab Revolt as cover, al-Husseini consolidated his control over the Palestinian Arabs with a campaign of murder against Jews and non-compliant Arabs, the recruitment of armed militias, and the raising of funds from around the Muslim world using anti-Jewish propaganda. In 1937 the Grand Mufti expressed his solidarity with Germany, asking the Nazi Third Reich to oppose establishment of a Jewish state, stop Jewish immigration to Palestine, and provide arms to the Arab population. Following an assassination attempt on the British Inspector-General of the Palestine Police Force and the murder by Arab extremists of Jews and moderate Arabs, the Arab Higher Committee was declared illegal by the British. The Grand Mufti lost his office of President of the Supreme muslim Council, his membership on the Waqf committee, and was forced into exile in Syria in 1937. The British deported the Arab mayor of Jerusalem along with other members of the Arab Higher Committee.

According to documentation from the Nuremberg and Eichmann trials, the Nazi Germany SS helped finance al-Husseini's efforts in the 1936-39 revolt in Palestine. Adolf Eichmann actually visited Palestine and met with al-Husseini at that time and subsequently maintained regular contact with him later in Berlin.

In 1940, al-Husseini requested the Axis powers to acknowledge the Arab right:

  • ... to settle the question of Jewish elements in Palestine and other Arab countries in accordance with the national and racial interests of the Arabs and along the lines similar to those used to solve the Jewish question in Germany and Italy.

While in Baghdad, Syria al-Husseini aided the pro-Nazi revolt of 1941. http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_during_ww2.php - He then spent the rest of World War II as Hitler's special guest in Berlin , advocating the extermination of Jews in radio broadcasts back to the Middle East and recruiting Balkan Muslims for infamous SS "mountain divisions" that tried to wipe out Jewish communities throughout the region.

At the Nuremberg Trials, Eichmann's deputy Dieter Wisliceny (subsequently executed as a war criminal) testified:

  • The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan. ... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures. I heard him say, accompanied by Eichmann, he had visited incognito the gas chamber of Auschwitz.

With the collapse of Nazi Germany in 1945, the Mufti moved to Egypt where he was received as a national hero. After the war al-Husseini was indicted by Yugoslavia for war crimes, but escaped prosecution. The Mufti was never tried because the Allies were afraid of the storm in the Arab world if the hero of Arab nationalism was treated as a war criminal.

From Egypt al-Husseini was among the sponsors of the http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_independence.php - 1948 war against the new State of Israel . Spurned by the Jordanian monarch, who gave the position of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to someone else, Haj Amin al-Husseini arranged http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_abdulla.php - King Abdullah's assassination in 1951 , while still living in exile in Egypt. King Tallal followed Abdullah as king of Jordan, and he refused to give permission to Amin al-Husseini to come into Jordanian Jerusalem. After one year, King Tallal was declared incompetent; the new King Hussein also refused to give al-Husseini permission to enter Jerusalem. King Hussein recognized that the former Grand Mufti would only stir up trouble and was a danger to peace in the region.

Haj Amin al-Husseini eventually died in exile in 1974. He never returned to Jerusalem after his 1937 departure. His place as leader of the radical, nationalist Palestinian Arabs was taken by his nephew Mohammed Abdel-Raouf Arafat As Qudwa al-Hussaeini, better known as http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_1948to1967_plo_arafat.php - Yasser Arafat . In August 2002, Arafat gave an interview in which he referred to "our hero al-Husseini" as a symbol of Palestinian Arab resistance.

Sources and additional reading on this topic:

  • http://www.stanford.edu/class/history187b/arhicom.htm - al-Hajj Amin Husayni and the Arab Higher Committee (Photo)
  • http://www.pmw.org.il/bulletins-050802.html - Nazi ally, Hajj Amin Al Husseini, is Arafat's 'hero'
  • http://www.wzo.org.il/home/portrait/mufti.htm - Haj Amin al-Husseini (1893-1974)
  • http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/husseini.html - Haj Amin al Husseini
  • http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/fatwa.html - Summons to a Intifada Against Britain: A "Fatwa" Issued by Haj Amin al-Husseini
  • http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/recruited.html - Bosnian Moslems recruited the Nazi SS by Yasser Arafat's 'Uncle'
  • http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35563 - Arafat's Hitler-loving Role Model
  • http://www.freeman.org/m_online/mar02/davis.htm - The Prisoners of History
  • http://www.likud.nl/extr219.html - Arafat, the Nazi symphatizer
  • http://www.rbooker.com/roots/articles/mideast_arafat.htm - The Myth of Yasser Arafat
  • http://answering-islam.org/Index/H/husseini.html - Mufti Haj Amin el-Husseini
  • http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/biography/mufti.html - Haj Amin al-Husseini
  • http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/muftihit.html - The Mufti and the Fuhrer
  • http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-ratzlav-katz082302.asp - We Didnt Start the Fire
  • http://notendur.centrum.is/~snorrigb/mufti1.htm - The rise of Haj Amin
  • http://medialdea.net/historyguy80538/jerusdiv.htm - Jerusalem Divided Between Jordan and Israel 1950-1951
  • http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/3/8/131857.shtml - Put an End to It
  • http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=21741 - Arafat and the Big Lie
  • http://www.nationalreview.com/nr_comment/nr_comment071802a.asp - Their Kampf: Hitlers book in Arab hands
  • http://www.kokhavivpublications.com/2002/israel/06/0206230011.html - Plus ca change ... Journalists fail to confront Lies against Israel
  • http://www.twf.org/News/Y1998/JewsArabs.html - Were Jews and Arabs Destined To Hate Each Other?
  • http://www.yahoodi.com/peace/arafat.html - The Peace Encyclopedia: Arafat, Yassir


 

Its all british incitement

Ziff's book (which was published first in l938 but probably took three or four years of research to write) documents how the British "created" the opposition to Zionism and that up until these so-called "radical Arab leaders" came into the picture, most Arab residents of Palestine wanted nothing more than to live in peace and prosperity with the Jews which they believed was their good fortune.

"The Moslem religious leaders, the Mufti, was openly friendly. Throughout Arabia, the chiefs were for the most part distinctly pro- Zionist: and in Palestine the peasantry were delighted at every prospect of Jewish settlement near their villages. Commercial intercourse between Arab and Jew was constant and steady." pp.13

"The Arab National Movement was hated by the huge Levantine population who continued to regard themselves simply as Ottoman subjects, looked to the strong, influential Zionist Organization for sympathy and assistance."

"Hussein of the Hejaz looked to the Zionists for the financial and scientific experience of which the projected Arab state would standly badly in need. In May 1918, Dr. Chaim Weizmann and Hussein of the Hejaz met in Cairo where the latter spoke of mutual cooperation between Jews and Arabs in Palestine. In early l9l9 a Treaty of Friendship was signed to provide for "the closest possible collaboration in the development of the Arab state and the coming Jewish Commonwealth of Palestine. On March 3, l9l9, another Arab leader, Feisal, son of Sherif, wrote: "We wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home."

If Ziff's words are accurate, there was no Arab opposition to Jewish immigration to Palestine at least as far back as l919.

The Koran on Violence The true spirit of Islam condemned barbarity and the spilling of innocent blood.. Leading expert on Islam Khaled Fouad Allam has written that the true sprit of the Koran condemns barbarity and the spilling of innocent blood. There is tremendous cultural impoverishment in today's Islam. The Muslim world is submerged in an intellectual night, but it's possible to emerge from. For example, if you dear readers could help in spreading this important information, that would help free so many from the darkness of their brainwashed isolation.

Powerhouse Russel Simmons testified that Minister L. Farrakhan the leader of The Nation of Islam (also known as Louis the Charmer Walcott), stated that A Muslim cannot hate a Jew. We are all members of the family of Abraham and we should all maintain dialogue and mutual respect. Oil money and media hide all of these Muslim groups and their friendly attitudes. Did you know that over 76% of the Arabs living inside the borders of Israel, do not want to be there andwant to leave? They are tired and have no desire or energy for the artificial conflict created by their extremists. However, over 80% of the above groups do not want to move to a Muslim country but rather to a country with the same freedoms and democracy enjoyed in Israel.

Jewish sparks in early Islam

When Mohammed, his new wife Ayisha, her father, and convert Abu Bakr arrived in Yatharib (later named Mecca ), they found the city ready for monotheism simply because Jews had developed the township. The Jews had openly taught the pagans the beauty of pure ethical monotheism. The hallmarks of early Islam were tolerance, and conciliation with the Jewish elders. Mohammed went so far as to bring a huge amount of Jewish thought, ritual, and tradition into Islam. Before Mohammeds mythical overnight ride to Jerusalem, before the victories over Medina and Mecca, he decreed that Muslims should pray toward Jerusalem. Although Mohammed admitted he never actually read Jewish tradition (because he couldnt read), he did however have ample exposure to learned Jewish traders, scholars and elders. Using the ancient the ancient Judaic framework, he was able to build his own spiritual, theological edifice.


 

The 114 chapters of the Koran are profoundly influenced by both the Jewish oral and written tradition (the Bible and the Talmud). Doctor Abraham Geiger, around 170 years ago, already document this biblical influence on the Koran. More recently, Prof. A. Katz, Andre Zaqui, Rabbi Doctor Kolatch, and my own (less well-known) writings, show that the sermons of Mohammed borrow extensively from Jewish sources. An honest look at history will show that many Jews and Christians who had converted to Islam were among the copyists, scribes, editors and even scholars who helped canonize the Koran. The scholar Andre Zaqui even wonders how surprising that the adherents of Islam did not collect the Bible and the Koran into one volume as did the Christians with the Bible and their New Testament.


 

Mohammed does confirm the data of biblical revelation and G-ds promises to His people Israel , but does not undertake some of the precepts of the Torah. Both Christianity and Islam (with minor adjustments), contain the seven universal commandments revealed to Noah in the rainbow ten generations before the first Hebrew, Abraham. Andre Zaqui continues to explain Thus it is common knowledge that sages such as the Rambam (Maimonides, Hilchot Mlachim, 11,4) and Rabbi Yehuda Halevi (Kuzari, 23) {etc.} recognized Christianity and Islam as having originating (in large part) in Judaism, as religious movements essential for the redemption of mankind in as much as they made possible the conversion of many people to the belief of one G-d as referred to in the Bible, also containing the prophetical principles of ethics.


 

The Prophet Micah as preserved and passed on by all the sages and scribes of Israel , proclaims in chapter 4-5: Let all the peoples walk, each in the name of its god, but we shall walk in the name of the Lord our G-d forever. Thus, even in messianic times there could still be room for some disagreement concerning G-d, and the sages of Israel present a tolerant, legal decision regarding those yet to be resolved differences.

Who cares about some contradictions that exist between the Torah (Bible and Talmud) and the Koran? The whole point here is that its ok to have some differences and its up to all of G-ds creatures to emphasize the common denominator amongst themselves, and for heavens sakes get along with each other. Come on people now, smile on your brother, everyone get together, try to love one another right now.

As Professor A. Katz has said, and with which the researcher Andre Zaqui agrees, is that the solution lies in the many quotations from Midrash contained in the Koran, but direct or indirect knowledge of Jewish traditions does not prevent theological originality, literary richness and poetical format in the Koran. It follows from this that apart from the inspiration taken from Jewish sources, the literary nature of the Koran and the beauty of the Arabic language, grant the book its attractiveness and enticing originality. It can therefore be determined that if Mohammed came to confirm the Torah of Moses and to adjust it and update it for his Arab brethren in Mecca and Medina, then the Torah suffices as it is for the Children of Israel who accepted it 2000 years before the period of Mohammed, and likewise for the New Testament which confirmed the Torah of Moses and was written some 13 centuries after the Torah and 5 centuries before the time of Allahs Messenger.


 

It cannot therefore be stated sufficiently how great is the obligation of Islam to Judaism and the Jews who brought to the whole world the Book of Books, the prophecy, the Psalms, and the Song of songs. This obligation is so tremendous in its own right that it forces by its power, respect for the People of Israel, (in the words of the French historian, the late Jules Isaac).

The above religions are based on the faith of their adherents in one G-d and on the spiritual and moral values by which they have always tried to live. Indeed, from the point of view of morals and the purest spirituality, only such an effort on the part of the spiritual leaders of the believers and their institutions can advance humanity on the divine and universal path of truth, brotherhood, justice and peace. In conclusion, we mention the rebuke of Jules Isaac: At the present time, when hunger on the one hand, and nuclear threat on the other, are weighing down on the whole of humanity, the duty of pure heartedness and conciliation between the nations is urgent and obliges every one of us to thoughts of Auschwitz .


 

As continues Andre Zaqui, I have tried to show the similarity between the Torah and the Koran and to compare the principles of faith and religion between Judaism and Islam in their various developments and particularly to emphasize the borrowing of the Koran from the Torah and the tradition of Jewish sages.


 

Apart from a number of concepts that are foreign to Judaism, (such for example the Jinns - the strong emphasis on demonology, the particulars of material life that believers enjoy in the Garden of Eden after their death, and the exaggerated apocalyptic descriptions of the Fire of Gehinnom) many scholars note that the crucial points in the beliefs and opinions of Judaism and Islam are similar and near-identical. For example, the six pillars of Islam are: Belief in one G-d who is first and last, belief in the existence of angels, belief in the Scriptures and in the prophecy of the prophets, in the End of Days and the matter of good and evil and, finally, the five precepts of the religion and the rite the Muslims have to uphold: the proclamation of the testimony by every believer that there is no G-d but G-d, the precept of pilgrimage and the precept of fasting. (Andre C. Zaqui, Jewish Sources in the Koran, 1983). In short, for practical purposes, for everyday life in society, what is important is not so much what divides us, but rather what we have in common (which is sometimes so much more then we think) and what unites us!

Emir Fassil son of Sherif Hussein and recognized Arab leader, signed an agreement with Zionist leaders that basically acknowledged all that it is written above. They stated for instance,
Mindful of the racial kinship and racial bonds existing between the Arabs and the Jewish people the surest means of working out the consummation of their national aspiration is through the closest possible collaboration of the Arab state and Palestine .
( Palestine , in this context referred to the part of the Near East to be given to and designated for a Jewish state in the 1919 Paris Peace Convention).

Emir Fassil and friends likewise agreed to the realization of the Balfour declaration as just and right, and in harmony with Islam. They agreed to and called for
All necessary measures... To encourage and stimulate immigration of Jews into Palestine on a large scale, and as quickly as possible to settle Jewish immigrants upon the land through closer settlement and extensive cultivation of the soil.

So what happened? Fanatic radical groups took possession of political leadership and inherited the oil fields, which the westerners had discovered. The meek may inherit the earth, but not its mineral rights. With scores of years of propaganda, brainwashing, political murders gave birth to the following; statements which are representative of current leadership as well. This will be a war of extermination and a momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacres and the crusades. (Azzam Pasha, Secretary General of the Arab League, 1948. Where? Where else. Cairo of course.) Arafat, Abu Mazen. Mubarak, Anwar Sadat, Assad (The Lion of Syria), have all denied the Holocaust, but have wished that there had been (as seen when they applauded the above kind of statement.)

The above leaders and many others have embarked on a brave new path that calls for the annihilation of the Jewish entity by way of slices and stages and fake diplomatic negotiations and overtures. The pure deception of the plan of stages is so thoroughly against the demands of the Koran for thinking the truth, speaking the truth, acting the truth, and getting closer to the God of truth. There are, thank G-d, a growing number of Muslims who see the truth. For example, a fast-growing web-site: Arabsforisrael.com. There, Arabs and Muslims bravely express their pro-Israel views.

The Koran distorted and adulterated by foreign dogmas
Many true scholars of true Islam provides explanations at to over the years, during different periods, Islam has become adulterated by foreign dogmas. This has been to the detriment of Islam and is responsible for much of the carnage, violence and hatred that has been expressed in the name of "Islam." These adulterants include communism, fascism, Nazism, racism, intolerance, greed, and other such destructive forces.

Hazrat Mirza Hamud, for example, (who has over ten million followers), condemns without exception all forms of terrorism. These acts, he says, done in the name of ''Islam," are without exception simply murder. There is no such support for these acts in the original traditional, religious observance of true Islam. Many Koranic sources, he brings down, and can be found, to back up his statements. This is not the opinion of a single man and his followers, but rather a peaceful doctrine of which he reminds us.

He also writes at length on the influence of Marxist writings on Islam. As he and others point out, some modern Islamic writings are adulterated by (or even quote directly!), the Communist Manifesto. Unfortunately, there exist pseudo-Muslim spokesmen who without hesitation attribute these Marxist concepts to Mohammed. These distortions of Islam have stealthily infiltrated into Islam in general and created a cult of death.

Professor Hamud goes on to explain that Communist concepts are not the only teachings that are foreign to true Islam but have succeeded in worming their way in. The concept of heresy is another foreign and destructive doctrine. as punishable by man was never a tenet or practice of Islam. Two bizarre cults -Wannabe and Deobani have disfigured Islam by their incorporation of medieval positions on heresy. Orientalists who often criticize Islam, agree that there exists no such dogma of heresy in Islam, and that in this manner Islam cannot be compared to Christianity. As Bernard Louis held,
What mattered in original Islam, as with Judaism, was what people did, (Orthopraxy not orthodoxy). Muslim warlords like Maulama Maudadi introduced Calvinist Christian ideas of heresy that were foreign to Islam. Eventually the foreign roots were forgotten and it became entwined into Islam as the accepted "rule of thumb.

Calvins logic held death as the punishment of apostasy, but the Koran says over and over that heresy is taken care of by God, and it is not in the realm of man to mete out punishment. In the Koran (76;30) it says surely this is a reminder; so whoever wishes may take the way that leads to his God. The principle leader of the Muslim Council of Britain Abdul Jalil Sagid has condemned terror saying that no excuses can be used to justify it; it is a perversion of Islam, and represents outside, non-Muslim influences. Sagid wants an active policy of naming and shaming radicals. Thus we see that often it is not Islam distorting Biblical narratives, but rather Arab political chiefdoms that gave new interpretations. In the case of Isaac, Christianity, Bahai and other religions have the same version as the Jews. There are even ancient texts predating Islam that support the original Biblical versions.

Arab political military needs came together to intimidate Muslim scholars. Mohammad bin Hasan al Shaybani dedicated an entire book to Muslim military campaigns. He explains that though out the centuries, the politicians and the armies of Muslim states would press jurists to give rulings on the laws of combat etc., that were radicalized and distorted, but served their agendas. The army would tell the Muslim scholars Give us this or that ruling, or the enemy will come for you and your dear books will go up in flames. Prison and torture was also an option for obstinate scholars. Like all super powers, the Muslim state became intoxicated by its own strength. (Says the scholar Abou El Fadl). The problem is that we have the books, says a Muslim Professor, but they have the terror organizations.

Or as I like to cite the old Creole saying Konstitisyon se papye, bayonet se fe. (A constitution is made of paper, a bayonet from iron) This notion has been the defining element in much of Muslim religio-political decisions. A famous comedian Bill Cosby once said, I wear glasses so that I can look for things that I keep losing. Unfortunately, because of prejudice and self-interest, so many of us keep losing the merciful and tolerant aspects of theology and politics. We must all need glasses, (or as for me, Ill drink straight from the bottle).

As far as Orthodox Judaism is concerned, the foundations of theology and politics are the same as the underpinnings of religion and philosophy namely, mercy and tolerance. Judaism cries out for you my G-d are good and forgiving and abundantly kind to all who call upon You (Psalm 86-5.) G-d is near to all who call upon Him, to all who call upon Him sincerely (Psalm 145.) All good people have a share in the world-to-come (Talmud.) The very act of creation of this world is one of benevolence. The infinite eternal indivisible G-d of pure spirit, made room so to speak, for a finite, physical creation. This infinite, divine being, that is indescribable, so to speak hid or constricted his divine light to allow for a separate creation to exist. Our job is to imitate Him, imitation of the divine qualities. . But you who cleave to the Lord your God, you are alive every one of you today (Deuteronomy 4-4 and Sanhedrin 64a.) The sages ask,

"How is it possible to cleave to the Holy One G-d who is a devouring fire?" (Deuteronomy 4-24.) That means, so to speak, that the Divine is so far beyond us, is transcendent from us. The sages answer that by cleaving to the righteous scholars who can process or filter G-ds fire\light in a way that makes it accessible to everyone (Ketuvot 111b, Zohar I 51a.) Cleaving to G-d can also be accomplished by cleaving to His Torah; His love letter to humanity containing so to speak his wisdom and will. Finally, cleaving to God, means imitating his character traits personified for our understanding, behavior that He allows us to know through His interface with the finite world (Likutey Halachot, Heksher Keilim 4-5.) Therefore, just as He is merciful, so you must be merciful, just as He is kind, you are to be kind. Where he constricted himself, so to speak constricted His infinite presence so that worlds could come into being, so we too are to be humble and restrict ourselves, our egos and presence, to allow others to grow and be different from us.

For example, before and after the Exodus for Egypt , the ancient Hebrews were explained the Sabbath commandments. Here, they were instructed to allow their man and maid servant to rest like them. Why? Because they are like you, everyone is a creature of the One Creator. Slavery is only a socio-economic disadvantage and does not speak to the essential quality of the individual. For everyones worth come from their being created in the image of the divine. Therefore, the Greeks and Romans legislated a death penalty for all Jews who would keep the Sabbath because it challenged their societies built on slavery.

Remember, the Greek democracy of free men consisted only of one percent of the population, 99% were in abject slavery. As Shimon Peres said (Former PM of Israel ), The Sabbath commandment was the first call to humanity at large for real equality. And the first summons of freeing man from the bondage of man, for freeing man from him Himself, from the routine of work. This was the first significant taste of freedom and equality. And this taste has never faded since, (The Buzz about Shabbat, Olam Magazine, (Special Edition)
http://www.olam.org/ - www.olam.org ).

Like a game of cosmic hide-and-seek, the Divine has hid His light, and throughout the course of our lives it is our job to seek out that light, reveal it to ourselves and to others; in such a way His light is tolerant, benevolent and abundant in blessings for all. As the great Rabbi Akiva said, Love thy neighbor as thyself, (Leviticus) is the fundamental principle of Judaism. As Hillel, one of the great Rabbis of the Talmud proclaimed, Be of the disciples of Aharon, loving peace, pursuing peace, loving your fellow creations and drawing them closer to Torah.

Nazism Infects Islam

As Dr. Asher Ader of the Islam-Israel fellowship (Root and Branch- Aryeh Gallin) points out, in the twenties and thirties the Haji Amin el-Husseini kicked off bloody pogroms against innocent Jews. He proceeded to raise two Muslim SS divisions for the Nazis, and then cried out from Berlin Radio for Jihad against the Jews: Kill them where ever you find them After his release by the French in 1945, he successfully spread a Nazi smear campaign in the Arab press. Hitlers writings became bestsellers and the Haji Amin el-Husseini forged Islam into a bigoted, anti-Semitic ideology, drenched in Nazism.

Many of the important key leaders in the Palestinian movements today have voiced their support for and belief in the Haji Amin el-Husseini, as well as publicly stating that their goals are to implement his goals. The same present day leadership goes as far as to claim to be spiritual relatives of Husseini. (They went against that old adage that you can pick your friends but not your relatives). The same Mufti Husseini demanded a reversal of the Hungarian governments plan to rescue Jewish children by sending them to the Holy Land . Through his continued pressure he succeeded in having the rescue plan aborted. Another 900 children were thus sent to extermination camps in Poland . (From the personal diary of the Mufti Husseini, cited by Joan Peters, from Time Immemorial ).

The Muftis conduct reminds me of a section of a verse from the Prophet Ezekiel (35: 4-5). You shed the blood of the children of Israel at the time of their calamity. Feisal Hussein was a blood relative of the Mufti, and also leader, spokesman and key player in the Palestinian leadership. He revealed that the entire Oslo process was a Trojan Horse tactic to destroy Israel . Like Hitlers invasion of the Sudetenland , if someone had called his bluff, he would have retreated. So modern day Hitler Wannabes bluff and huff and puff - and Israel does the retreating.



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Posted By: Andalus
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

The Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land and Allah said to the children of Israel: dwell securely in the Promised land"
A comparative analysis of Koranic and Torah sources reveals an agreement on the point that the link existing between the children of Israel and the Land of Canaan depends directly on God Almightys will, toward which we are asked to submit to Allah constituted the offspring of Jacob as heirs off the promised land. From King Feisal of Iraq to King Abdullah I of Trans-Jordan, many Islamic voices that had been pro-Jewish were silenced and the irrational hostility toward Zionism was introduced. Being against Jewish sovereignty over Palestine is denying the history of revelation and prophecy. The head of an Islamic council of scholars, Sheikh Abdul Palazzi, continues in this vein and notes that the Koran announces a reestablishment of the House of Israel in the Land before the last judgment, where is says: and therefore we (Allah) said to the children of Israel, Dwell securely in the Promised land. And when the last warning will come to pass, we will gather you together in a mingled crowd. (Koran 17-105)

You are comitting an equivicational fallacy. Zionism is an evil, racist, and filthy secular ideaology that will end in its own failure.

Zionism is not Judaism.

Keep in mind that God is not obliged to keep a covenant with those who are wicked.

2: 124. And (remember) when the Lord of Ibrhim (Abraham) tried him with Commands, which he fulfilled. He (Allh) said (to him), "Verily, I am going to make you a leader (Prophet) of mankind." [Ibrhim (Abraham)] said, "And of my offspring as well?." (Allh) said, "My Covenant (Prophethood, etc.) includes not the wrong-doers."

God wiped out the Kingdom of Israel some 2500 years ago. Zionism has tried to revive a thing destroyed by God, and convince everyone that their new nation is a new Israel, when indeed it is a filthy shadow, and illusion of the kingdom that was destroyed, along with the 10 tribes who had rebelled against God and were never heard from again. You cannot commit evil and then claim you are under a pact with God Almighty.

While the Quran honors the children of Israel, it does not honor the racist, secular ideology of "Zionism", nor the secular, non-semitic Jews of Russia and Eastern Europe who create trouble in the land. Jews have always been able to live in Palestine, and have been protected by Muslims during periods when Christian wanted to kill them. 

3:112. Indignity is put over them wherever they may be, except when under a covenant (of protection) from Allh, and from men; they have drawn on themselves the Wrath of Allh, and destruction is put over them. This is because they disbelieved in the Ayt (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allh and killed the Prophets without right. This is because they disobeyed (Allh) and used to transgress beyond bounds (in Allh's disobedience, crimes and sins).

So the while the Quran addresses the position of the Jews, which is post Islam, and pre-Islam, the Quran does not recognize an indefinite contract with God where God must fulfill the deal even while those who have made the contract are rebellious. No one is above punishment.

The Quran does not have an injunction against Jews living in Palestine, but Zionism is not compatable with Islamic teaching.

 

 

 

Remember when Moses said to his people, Oh my people, remember the presents that G-d gave to you when he appointed prophets from among you, and made you kings, and gave to you what he had never given to anyone else in the world (a clearly mapped out homeland in Israel). Enter then my people the holy land that God has commanded for you. Again, in the sections called Hobbling 15; Cow 44-116; Smoke 30, the Koran recognizes the particularity of Israel, with its unparalleled gifts, including the Promised Land. In the section called Table-23, the Koran insists that the Holy Land was given to Israel. In the section called Jonah 93, the Koran states that Allah settled the Jews there and in the section Cow 60,247, even rebukes Israel for not fighting hard enough for Her land.

This segment you are pasting ( I have seen it twice now) is using something called "dumping", where either someone goes through everything you have pasted (which is not likely given time comstraints) or it is left silent, allowing you to repete this over and over. There is a rule about "dumping", and you are "borderline".

I will make a brief comment about Al Ma'idah 23.

Jews are not those whom were following Moses at that time. They are dead. Zionists cannot claim that this is a verse which grants unlimited rights to prime land in Palestine and allows white European Jews to steal land from Arabs or from those who do not share their claimed ancestory. This verse is about an event in the past. The last I checked, God forsaked the kingdom of Israel and Judah. The last I checked, there has been no prophet sent to the Jews for 2500 years to let them know the dispora was over. There is no Dividic throne, there is not Sanhedrin (not including the make believe actors on the Israeli payroll), there is only a land where people who claim they can have it at any means due to their religion, yet religion is far from their hearts. Hypocrits.

Islam on Judaism."The Koran recognizes the teachings of Jewish prophets and the continued validity of the Torah" The Koran, in section Table 48, recognizes the teachings of the Jewish prophets and even the validity of later sages and Rabbis. Other parts of the Koran recognize Davids kingdom and his Psalms, and he is confirmed as divine viceroy and judge on earth (Zad 19,25;Cow 252). Abraham is called a true Muslim as are the prophets (who are also Rabbis), even though they kept the Sabbath and prayed in the direction of Jerusalem. (Kings I, 8: 30-42). ( Koranic sources include Imram 60, Pilgrimage 77 Cattle 162, Table 48, Cow 140 and 143, Greeks 5, Hobbling 31, Believers 76. )

More dumping. I will briefly say that none of these verses prove what you are asserting. You are misapplying their conext, and you are ignoring other verses in the QUran.

Al Ma'idah 48 recognized the Torah and Rabbinic interpretation for those who follow that law. It was common in Muslims lands to allow the people of the book to have their own courts. You are simply twisting the verses of the Quran.

The Quran honors all prophets, including David. So what? How does this prove that the QUran supports Zionism.

Interestingly, just as Bahai, Christian etc... sources rely on Hebrew scriptures, so does the Koran, and specifically, it speaks of Israels return to the land and to the holy city Jerusalem. (Bani Israel 8, 105).

You need to do more than assert. If you criticise the Quran, then you need to prove it. Islam is not a "replacement theology", and mentions the children of Israel and other prophets of other people. It does not "depend" on the Hebrew Scriptures because of this. Please back up your claims.

 

 The Koran also demands that faithful Muslims help the Jews and their return to Zion. Finally, the Koran insists that there is continued validity to the book of the Jews (Jonah 38, Bee 45, 47, Cow 172, Table 52, Believers 56, etc). There are several sources in the Koran that recognize that there exist different religious rituals to reach God; especially the significance of good deeds, and the importance to God of love and forgiveness. (Sura 49, Inner rooms 13, Sura 109, The Heretics 6, Sura 5, Table 48, Sura 9-29, Sura Elchajrath 13-49.).

Please prove that the verse support Zionism. Do not dump lists of verses after an assertion. Back it up. I am not going to toil through everything you paste, nor do I expect anyone else to.

Another interesting fact, not known to many is that opting for Ishmael over Isaac satisfied the political need to assert Arab preeminence in the Muslim world. Substituting Ishmael at the binding of Isaac likewise satisfies a desire to negate the centrality of Jewish figures like Moses etc.

I am guessing about now that you need a basic course in critical thinking. A fact, and an asserted conjecture, is not the same thing. Once more, is you assert something, especially a claim critical of Islam, then this forum expects you to back it up.

Please prove that Arabs made the substitution to gain a superior position in the Muslims world. Do not paste pro-Zionist rantings. Consider this your first warning. If you bring incredible claims, then brin a proof that backs it up.

By the way, Moses is the individual most cited in the Koran.

And this leads to the question: So what?

Every Muslims accepts Moses as one of the greatest prophets, and the Quran teaches this. So now what?

(if you are going to draw an incredible, novel implication from this, then also back it up)

 

 The great orthodox Muslim scholar, Ata Ibn As-Saib, finally concluded after a lifetime of research that the sacrifice was indeed Isaac!!!! Other classic texts such as Ibn El-Arabis Illuminations of Mecca (12 th century) which shows the importance of coexistence are suffocated by modern twisted Islam.

As-Saib was a narrator of Hadith, and I have no knowledge of such a great Sunni scholar, although it is no secret that there are two opinions found in scholarly work about who the sacrifice would be. None of this proves Zionism or proves that Arabs did this to gain influence in the Muslims world.

 

A Muslim cleric once said, Ibrahim was granted Isaac with a divine promise, that Isaac would be granted Jacob (Abraham-Passia, page 42) Also is cited in the Koran: When he had turned away from them and from those whom they worshipped besides God, we bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob, and each one of them became a prophet. (Koran 19-49) Furthermore, the Koran states that these two were gifts granted to Abraham. And we bestowed upon him Isaac, and as an additional gift, (a grandson): Jacob. And we made righteous men of every one of them. (Koran 21-72).

I am not sure what you feel you are proving with this?

I ask you to refrain from pasting and dumping. If you make a claim, especially one of novelty. then bring proof.

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Posted By: Andalus
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 11:27pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

Words of the lord are forever

correct me if im wrong

Irrelevant. The actions of men maintain the covenant, and the blessings of God.



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 08 February 2007 at 11:55pm

all your questions are pretty much answered int the text above exactly next to the ones you cut out and underneath. read it again and open your mind your faith has been hijacked by the european colonials that put people that would serve their cause in power of the noble muslim faith.

wake up we are brothers following the same god one god of abraham!

Zionisme not racisme

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/zion.html - Zionism is the national liberation movement of the Jewish people, which holds that Jews, like any other nation, are entitled to a homeland.

History has demonstrated the need to ensure Jewish security through a national homeland. Zionism recognizes that Jewishness is defined by shared origin, religion, culture and history.

The realization of the Zionist dream is exemplified by more than four million Jews, from more than 100 countries, including dark-skinned http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejtoc.html - Jews from Ethiopia , Yemen and India, who are Israeli citizens. Approximately 1,000,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs, http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/druze.html - Druze , http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/bahai.html - Baha'is , http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/Minority_communities.html - Circassians and other ethnic groups also are represented in Israel's population.

The Arab states define citizenship strictly by native parentage. It is almost impossible to become a naturalized citizen in many Arab states, especially http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/algeria.html - Algeria , http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/sa.html - Saudi Arabia and http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/kuwait.html - Kuwait . Several Arab nations have laws that facilitate the naturalization of foreign Arabs, with the specific exception of http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/palstoc.html - Palestinians . http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/arabs/jordan.html - Jordan , on the other hand, instituted its own "law of return" in 1954, according citizenship to all former residents of Palestine, except for Jews.

The presence of thousands of black Jews in Israel is the best refutation of the calumny against Zionism. In a series of http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/ejhist.html - historic airlifts , labeled Moses (1984), Joshua (1985) and Solomon (1991), Israel rescued almost 42,000 members of the ancient Ethiopian Jewish community.

To single out Jewish self-determination for condemnation is itself a form of racism. "A world that closed its doors to Jews who sought escape from Hitler's ovens lacks the moral standing to complain about Israel's giving preference to Jews," wrote noted civil rights lawyer Alan Dershowitz.

When approached by a student who attacked Zionism, Martin Luther King responded: "When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism."

 

  • Israel has 15 officially recognized religions. 
  • Israels over 1.2 million Arab citizens have Arab-Israeli political parties and Arab-Israelis representing them in the Knesset. 
  • Arabic is an officially recognized language in Israel, along with Hebrew.
  • Though Arabs make up 20 percent of the Israeli population and live as full citizens inside Israel, the future Palestinian state refuses to allow any Jews.  The Palestinian Authority wants all Jewish communities currently in the territories to be transferred out of the future Palestinian State so that the areas will become http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4913 - Judenrein (the Nazi term for Jew-free), like many other Arab countries. 
  • Jews have always been active humanitarians on the frontlines of most civil rights causes. Israels humanitarian record continues the tradition of coming to the aid of countries in need.  As we know, Israel took in the Vietnamese boat people when the world ignored them. Israeli-Arabs have full civil rights in Israel they do not have anywhere in the Arab world, including womens  rights.
  • Very few nations or peoples have come to the aid of Jews during the many disastrous times in our own history, when they were chosen for extermination or deportation. Zionism and the rebirth of Israel are part of the Jewish answer to such tragic helplessness.   
  • There are more than 50 Muslim countries in the world. Jews cannot safely live in any of them. Today, many Jews feel unsafe even in some European countries.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 12:14am

When Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, fled Mecca to Medina in 622 C.E. (the Hijrah), the inhabitants welcomed him. Medina had been developed centuries earlier as a thriving date palm oasis by Jews fleeing the Roman assault (the banu-Qurayzah and banu-al-Nadir tribes, etc.), and its mixed population of Jews and pagan Arabs had thus become conditioned for a native prophet speaking the word of G-d.

Muhammad learned much from the Jews. While the actual timing of his decision on the direction of prayer may never be known, during his long sojourn with the Jews of Medina, his followers were instructed to pray towards Jerusalem. Early prominent Arab historians such as Jalaluddin came right out and stated that this was done primarily as an attempt to win support among the influential Jewish tribes (the "People of the Book") for Muhammad's religio-politcal claims.

It is from the Temple Mount in Jerusalem that Muslims believe Muhammad ascended to Heaven on his winged horse. A mosque, the Dome of the Rock, would later be erected on this Jewish holy site after the Arab imperial conquest of the land in the 7th century C.E.

There is no doubt among objective scholars that Jews had an enormous impact on both Muhammad and the religion that he founded. The holy sites for Muslims in Jerusalem (i.e. the mosques erected on the Temple Mount of the Jews) are now deemed "holy" precisely because of the critical years Muhammad spent after the Hijrah with the Jews.

The Temple Mount had no prior meaning to pagan Arabs. While there was some early Christian influence as well, intense scholarship has shown that the Holy Law (Halakha) and Holy Scriptures of the Jews had a tremendous influence on the Koran, Islamic Holy Law (Shari'a), etc. Muhammad's "Jerusalem connection" was most likely not established until after his extended stay with his Jewish hosts. This was no mere coincidence...Muslim religious beliefs regarding Muhammad's conversations with the Angel Gabriel, etc. notwithstanding.



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:02am

THE QUR'AN SAYS THAT ALLAH GAVE THE LAND OF ISRAEL TO THE JEWS AND WILL RESTORE THEM TO IT AT THE END OF DAYS

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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:06am

NO AUTHENTIC THEOLOGICAL REASON WHY MuslimS SHOULD NOT RECOGNIZE THE STATE OF ISRAEL

by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi

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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:08am

NO AUTHENTIC THEOLOGICAL REASON WHY MuslimS SHOULD NOT RECOGNIZE JERUSALEM AS THE CAPITAL OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL

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(debate your ideas, no one is here to have to refute your favorite websites)



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 1:21am

ACCORDING TO ISLAMIC LAW, THE SO-CALLED 'INTIFADAH' AGAINST ISRAEL WAS NOTHING BUT 'FITNAH' (SEDITION), AND THOSE INVOLVED IN FITNAH ARE SINNERS

by Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi

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Posted By: Andalus
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 6:28am
Originally posted by Dalandau

all your questions are pretty much answered int the text above exactly next to the ones you cut out and underneath. read it again and open your mind your faith has been hijacked by the european colonials that put people that would serve their cause in power of the noble muslim faith.

wake up we are brothers following the same god one god of abraham!

Just as I thought. You are unable to engage directly in a discussion. You simply copied and pasted more material. I am not here to debate you favortie websites, I am here to make discussion with participants.

Consider this your second warning. You are violating the rule concerning "spamming".

 



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 9:57am

this is not spamming this is showing you the light what would you care about my views but im giving you proof of what is realy happening and yes those last posts arent written neither compiled by me but by the leader of islamin itally and he is a sheih appointed and that studied in saudia arabia

there is no need in censorchip!

 

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi

After completing his secular and religious education in Rome and Cairo in 1987, he served as an Imam for the Italian Islamic Community. In addition to numerous Masters Degrees, Prof. Palazzi holds a Ph.D. in Islamic Sciences by decree of the Grand Mufti of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.
He was appointed a member of the Board of Directors of the Italian Muslim Association in 1989, and afterward was elected its Secretary General.
Since 1991, he was a Director of the Cultural Institute of the Italian Islamic Community, with a program based on the development of Islamic education in Italy, refutation of fundamentalism and fanaticism, and deep involvement in inter-religious dialogue, especially with Jews and Christians, but also with Buddhists and others.

isnt it a interfaith dialogue here?

listen im your brother in abraham and im worried for Islam please read my post dont just cancel it out!and please restore it

go to http://www.amislam.com/ - http://www.amislam.com/  for more information

Dont disturb the words of god read the Koran



Posted By: rami
Date Posted: 09 February 2007 at 10:22pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

Torah means the law, muslim scholars used to critisise jewish scholars for there literal and rigid interpretation of there scripture and not paying to much attention to its intentions and aims. They say this was the extreme which the jewish community went to while christians went the other way [far to spiritual and liberal].

A product of this rigid and literal interpretation of the Torah is that jewish scholars where brilliant at Logical%20reasoning - logical reasoning and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_thinking - Critical thinking.

It would do you well to Study from your own people Dalandau rather then present these weak arguments and conclusions which happen to be mixed in with some facts.



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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 10 February 2007 at 6:17am

Torah means the law, muslim scholars used to critisise jewish scholars for there literal and rigid interpretation of there scripture and not paying to much attention to its intentions and aims. They say this was the extreme which the jewish community went to while christians went the other way [far to spiritual and liberal].

I truely agree with that!

Some of Todays judaisme has been written after the destruction of the second temple.I dont agree with some of those rules. I believe in pre diaspora judaisme!

About the Christian faith

yes christians have been transformed in to pagans with the wrewriting of the bible by roman emperor constantine the same romans that destroyed the temple of ONE GOD(HASHEM,Allah)Same god of abraham moses.(yes todays christians are not monotheistic some examples first rule of god to abraham Dont make Idols todays churches are full of them,Seeing jesus as a g*d instead of a Prophet like it was meant to be,Sunday is the day of the roman sungod,24/12 christmas is the day of an other roman god....)

My vieuw about Islam and Judaisme

When Mohammed, his new wife Ayisha, her father, and convert Abu Bakr arrived in Yatharib (later named Mecca ), they found the city ready for monotheism simply because Jews had developed the township. The Jews had openly taught the pagans the beauty of pure ethical monotheism. The hallmarks of early Islam were tolerance, and conciliation with the Jewish elders. Mohammed went so far as to bring a huge amount of Jewish thought, ritual, and tradition into Islam. Before Mohammeds overnight ride to Jerusalem, before the victories over Medina and Mecca, he decreed that Muslims should pray toward Jerusalem. Although Mohammed admitted he never actually read Jewish tradition (because he couldnt read), he did however have ample exposure to learned Jewish traders, scholars and elders. Using the ancient the ancient Judaic framework, he was able to build his own spiritual, theological edifice.
The 114 chapters of the Koran are profoundly influenced by both the Jewish oral and written tradition (the Bible and the Talmud)An honest look at history will show that many Jews and Christians who had converted to Islam were among the copyists, scribes, editors and even scholars who helped canonize the Koran.Mohammed does confirm the data of biblical revelation and G-ds promises to His people Israel , but does not undertake some of the precepts of the Torah. Both Christianity and Islam (with minor adjustments), contain the seven universal commandments revealed to Noah in the rainbow ten generations before the first Hebrew, Abraham.
The Prophet Micah as preserved and passed on by all the sages and scribes of Israel , proclaims in chapter 4-5: Let all the peoples walk, each in the name of its god, but we shall walk in the name of the Lord our G-d forever.
Who cares about some contradictions that exist between the Torah (Bible and Talmud) and the Koran? The whole point here is that its ok to have some differences and its up to all of G-ds creatures to emphasize the common denominator amongst themselves, and for heavens sakes get along with each other. Come on people now, smile on your brother, everyone get together, try to love one another right now.
the solution lies in the many quotations from Midrash contained in the Koran, but direct or indirect knowledge of Jewish traditions does not prevent theological originality, literary richness and poetical format in the Koran. It follows from this that apart from the inspiration taken from Jewish sources, the literary nature of the Koran and the beauty of the Arabic language, grant the book its attractiveness and enticing originality. It can therefore be determined that if Mohammed came to confirm the Torah of Moses and to adjust it and update it for his Arab brethren in Mecca and Medina, then the Torah suffices as it is for the Children of Israel who accepted it 2000 years before the period of Mohammed, and likewise for the New Testament which confirmed the Torah of Moses and was written some 13 centuries after the Torah and 5 centuries before the time of Allahs Messenger.



Posted By: Arab
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 2:15am

My friend, the Quran does not say Palestine is for you i.e the Jews. The Quran says that Allah promised those with Moses Palestine yes. Who were those with Moses? We know who they were. What were they? What reigion did they dollow? Judaism? Impossible. Moses never said hes preaching a religion called Judaism. He was preaching that u surrender to G-d this is Islam. So to explain to u, Muslims believe that the true folowers of Moses at that time were .. Muslims! And now its time for you too to come back to the religion of Moses and embrace Islam too. Islam isnt for Arabs u know. For the children of Israel too and the Quran speaks to the children of Israel in many places to remember Gods blessing to them and come to Islam so come on, Islam is the completion of Judaism, G-d sent prophet Mohammedpbuh to explain to u the things u didnt understand and unite the world under islam so come on.

 



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 12 February 2007 at 2:24am
Originally posted by Arab

My friend, the Quran does not say Palestine is for you i.e the Jews. The Quran says that Allah promised those with Moses Palestine yes.

 

Can you find palestine in the quoran? No it was called cnaan!

Palestine is the name given by the pagan romans to the land of israel/yacob!

You can phind the philistines tho but the Koran doesnt really like them !!!

note from mod: please stop using long paste and cuts when someone replies to you. If you are unable to debate your material, then refrain from starting the topic. This forum is for discussions and debates, which is a two way street. This forum is not here for you to lecture to us with long winded , cut and paste, tautological nonsense.

 



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 13 February 2007 at 11:39pm

We worship the same g*d ONE GOD!!!!!!!!

"I believe that there is no God but He in whom the Children of Israel believe. I am of those that surrender" [Qur'an, "Jonah" chapter 10-90].



Posted By: Sawtul Khilafah
Date Posted: 16 February 2007 at 6:49pm

"The Lord said to me, 'Mortal man, the Israelites are of no use to me. They are like waste metal - copper, tin, iron, and lead - left over after silver has been refined in a furnace. So now, I, the Sovereign Lord, am telling them that they are just as useless as that. I will bring them all together in Jerusalem in the same way that the ore of silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin is put in a refining furnace. My anger and rage will melt them the way fire melts ore. Yes, I will gather them in Jerusalem, build a fire under them, and melt them with my anger. They will be melted in Jerusalem the way silver is melted in a furnace, and then they will know that they are feeling the anger of the Lord."

(Bible: Ezekiel 22:17-22)

It cant get any more clear than this!

And as I said before, the verses of Qur'an quoted by Dalandau are talking about the past, thousands of years ago, when the Sons of Israel were saved from the Pharaoh - that was before they rejected the Messiah (Jesus/'Eesa) and Prophet Mohammad (pbuh).



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 6:55am

first of all your translation isnt right!And have you heard of the nazi furnaces where jews have been burned like ...!!!!That prophecie has allready happend

and if you want more:

The Sanhedrin will be re-established (Isaiah 1:26)
Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:17)
He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via King Solomon (1 Chron. 22:8-10)
The Moshiach will be a man of this world, an observant Jew with "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
Nations will end up recognizing the wrongs they did Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
For My House shall be called a house of prayer for all nations (Isaiah 56:3-7)
The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
The Temple will be rebuilt (Ezekiel 40) resuming many of the suspended mitzvot
He will then perfect the entire world to serve God together (Zephaniah 3:9)
Jews will know the Torah without Study (Jeremiah 31:33)
He will give you all the desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 6:57am

And now from the Qu'ran:

Ongoing hostilities against Israel are part of the war of "Gog and Magog", of which the Qur'an says:
"There is a ban upon a city [Jerusalem] that We have destroyed. They [the Jews] shall not return [to the Land of Israel] till when Gog and Magog are unloosed, and they slide down out of every slope, and nigh has drawn the true promise, and behold, the eyes of the unbelievers staring. 'Alas for us! We were heedless of this. Nay, we are evildoers" [Qur'an, "The Prophets", chapter 21:96, 97].

Who or what prompts you to enlist in the hordes of Gog and Magog?

In this context the Qur'an warns:

"Upon this day when their faces are turned about in the fire, they shall say: 'Ah, would we had obeyed God and the messenger!' They shall say: 'Our Lord, we obeyed the chiefs and great ones, and they led us astray from the way. Our Lord, give them chastisement twofold, and curse them with a mighty curse" [ Qur'an, "The Confederates", chapter 33:66].

The next verse admonishes:

"O believers, be not as those who hurt Moses, but God declared him quit of what they said, and he was high honored with God" [Qur'an, "The Confederates", chapter 33:68].

The Qur'an says Muslims must not harm Jews:

"Dispute not with the People of the Book, save in a fairer manner, except for those of them that go wrong; and say: 'We believe in what has been sent down to us, and what has been sent down to you, our God and your God are One, and to Him we have surrendered" [Qur'an, "The Spider", chapter 29:45].

"Have you considered? If it be from God, and you disbelieve in it, and a witness from among the Children of Israel bears witness to its like, and believes, and you wax proud -- God guides not the people of the evildoers" [Qur'an, "Sand Dunes", chapter 46:8,9].

Consider also these words of Muhammed:

"The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr. Faith is a restraint against violence. Let no Muslim [believer] commit violence" [Quoted from "Thus spoke the Prophet Mohammed" by Dr. M. Hafiz, Madras, 1971].

The Qur'an says:

"It may be God will establish between you and those of them with whom you are at enmity, Love. God is all-powerful, all-forgiving, all-compassionate" [Qur'an, "The Woman Tested", chapter 60:7; "Counsel", chapter 42:14].

This tallies with Isaiah's prophecy:

"In that day shall Israel be third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land, whom the Lord of Hosts shall bless, saying: 'Blessed be Egypt, My people, and Assyria, the work of My hands, and Israel, Mine inheritance'" [Tanach, Isaiah 19:24-25].
Interestingly enough, modern Syria sees itself as the heir of ancient Assyria.

Isaiah's prophecy explains the phrase "from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river Euphrates" [Tanach, Genesis 15:13].
"And We delivered him [Abraham], and Lot, unto the land [of Israel] We had blessed for all beings" [Qur'an, "The Prophets", chapter 21:71].



Posted By: Sawtul Khilafah
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 7:01am
Originally posted by Dalandau

first of all your translation isnt right!And have you heard of the nazi furnaces where jews have been burned like ...!!!!That prophecie has allready happend

 

Dont keep saying the translation is wrong, it's pathetic. Why dont you show the "real" translation then ???

Also it says this will happen in JERUSALEM, not Germany - the Nazis were in GERMANY. Does your translation say Jerusalem is Germany ???



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Posted By: Sawtul Khilafah
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 7:15am
Originally posted by Dalandau


"There is a ban upon a city [Jerusalem] that We have destroyed. They [the Jews] shall not return [to the Land of Israel] till when Gog and Magog are unloosed, and they slide down out of every slope, and nigh has drawn the true promise, and behold, the eyes of the unbelievers staring. 'Alas for us! We were heedless of this. Nay, we are evildoers" [Qur'an, "The Prophets", chapter 21:96, 97].

Who says "They" means Jews and "city" means Jerusalem ????

Originally posted by Dalandau



The Qur'an says Muslims must not harm Jews:

Actually there are two commands in the Qur'an regarding Jews (and Christians). One is that we be kind to them and the other that we fight them. In context, the Qur'an is saying that we should fight against those Jews and Christians who attack us, but not against the peaceful ones.

This is while the Zionist Jews have attacked Muslims and murdered thousands of Muslim civilians.

Originally posted by Dalandau




The Qur'an says:

"It may be God will establish between you and those of them with whom you are at enmity, Love. God is all-powerful, all-forgiving, all-compassionate" [Qur'an, "The Woman Tested", chapter 60:7; "Counsel", chapter 42:14].

You forgot the verse that comes right after:

"Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice."  (Quran 60:8)

The Zionist Jews have driven Muslims from their homes and killed Palestinians because of their religion - they have done both things, hence we cannot even respect them.

 



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 8:31am

 

22:17 ֥ ֖ ֥

22:18 ֕ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֡ ֠ ֨ ֤ ֙֙ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖

22:19 ֗ ֤ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֛ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֙ ֣ ֣ ֔ ֖

22:20 ֣ ֡ ֠ ֨ ֤ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֤ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖

22:21 ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֖

22:22 ֥ ֙֙ ֣ ֔ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖

22:23 ֥ ֖ ֥

22:24 ֕ ֕ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֥ ֖ ֥

22:25 ֤ ֙֙ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֣ ֗ ֤ ֙ ֔ ֖ ֥

22:26 ֜ ֣ ֮ ֣ ֒ ֤ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֖

22:27 ֣ ֔ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֖ ֥

22:28 ֗ ֤ ֙ ֔ ֣ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֗ ֤ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֖ ֥

22:29 ֤ ֙֙ ֣ ֔ ֖ ֑ ֤ ֙ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֥

22:30 ֣ ֡ ֣ ֩ ֨ ֧ ֛ ֥ ֖ ֣ ֑ ֖

22:31 ֤ ֙ ֔ ֥ ֖ ֑ ֙ ֣ ֔ ֖ ֥

17. And the word of the Lord came to me, saying:

18. "Son of man(allways refers to non israelites in the whole bible)! The house of Israel has become dross to Me; all of them are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace; dross of silver have they become.(have they become)
19. Therefore, so said the Lord God: Because you have all become dross, therefore behold, I gather you together into the midst of Jerusalem.(because what became dross shall return to jerusalem)
20. As they gather silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin into the midst of a furnace to blow fire upon it, to melt it, so shall I gather with My wrath and with My fury, and I shall cast you in and melt you.(melt you back together)
21. And I shall gather you, and I shall blow upon you with the fire of My anger, and you will be melted in its midst.(melted back in to the land)
22. As silver is melted in the midst of a furnace, so will you be melted in its midst, and you shall know that I, the Lord, have poured out My fury upon you."(you is "son of man" "means non israelites" here)
23. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
24. "Son of man(non israelites), say to her: You are a land that is not cleansed; it was not rained upon on the day of fury.
25. There is a conspiracy of her prophets(Jesus and Mohamed) in her midst; like a roaring lion, tearing prey; they devoured souls, riches and honor they take, they increase her widows in her midst.(suicede bombers,...)
26. Her priests(jews dont have priests)(new testament and  the Hadith & Sunna)  robbed My Torah and profaned My holy things; they did not distinguish between holy and profane, neither did they let them know [the difference] between unclean and clean, and they hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I was profaned in their midst. (Jesus as G*D,Al aqsa that is build on the temple,...)
27. Her princes in her midst are like wolves tearing prey, to shed blood, to destroy souls, for the sake of dishonest gain.(terrorists, suicide bombers,...)
28. And her prophets plastered for them with daub, prophesy futility, and divine for them falsehoods. They say, 'So said the Lord God,' but the Lord did not speak.   "Upon this day when their faces are turned about in the fire, they shall say: 'Ah, would we had obeyed God and the messenger!' They shall say: 'Our Lord, we obeyed the chiefs and great ones, and they led us astray from the way. Our Lord, give them chastisement twofold, and curse them with a mighty curse" [ Qur'an, "The Confederates", chapter 33:66].
 
29. The people of the land (Palestinians) have practiced oppression and committed robbery; they wronged the poor and the needy, and oppressed the stranger for lack of judgment (no jews "stranger" in palestine.)
30. And I sought of them a man who puts up a wall and stands in the breach before Me, for the sake of the land that it not be destroyed, but I did not find.
31. And I poured out My fury upon them; with the fire of My wrath I destroyed them. I put their way on their head(burning jews in ww2, and all the killing arabs did,...)," said the Lord God.


Posted By: Sawtul Khilafah
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 9:06am
Originally posted by Dalandau

18. "Son of man(allways refers to non israelites in the whole bible)! The house of Israel has become dross to Me; all of them are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace; dross of silver have they become.(have they become)
19. Therefore, so said the Lord God: Because you have all become dross, therefore behold, I gather you together into the midst of Jerusalem.(because what became dross shall return to jerusalem)
20. As they gather silver, copper, iron, lead, and tin into the midst of a furnace to blow fire upon it, to melt it, so shall I gather with My wrath and with My fury, and I shall cast you in and melt you.(melt you back together)
21. And I shall gather you, and I shall blow upon you with the fire of My anger, and you will be melted in its midst.(melted back in to the land)
22. As silver is melted in the midst of a furnace, so will you be melted in its midst, and you shall know that I, the Lord, have poured out My fury upon you."(you is "son of man" "means non israelites" here)
23. Then the word of the Lord came to me, saying:
24. "Son of man(non israelites), say to her: You are a land that is not cleansed; it was not rained upon on the day of fury.
25. There is a conspiracy of her prophets(Jesus and Mohamed) in her midst; like a roaring lion, tearing prey; they devoured souls, riches and honor they take, they increase her widows in her midst.(suicede bombers,...)
26. Her priests(jews dont have priests)(new testament and  the Hadith & Sunna)  robbed My Torah and profaned My holy things; they did not distinguish between holy and profane, neither did they let them know [the difference] between unclean and clean, and they hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I was profaned in their midst. (Jesus as G*D,Al aqsa that is build on the temple,...)
27. Her princes in her midst are like wolves tearing prey, to shed blood, to destroy souls, for the sake of dishonest gain.(terrorists, suicide bombers,...)
28. And her prophets plastered for them with daub, prophesy futility, and divine for them falsehoods. They say, 'So said the Lord God,' but the Lord did not speak.   "Upon this day when their faces are turned about in the fire, they shall say: 'Ah, would we had obeyed God and the messenger!' They shall say: 'Our Lord, we obeyed the chiefs and great ones, and they led us astray from the way. Our Lord, give them chastisement twofold, and curse them with a mighty curse" [ Qur'an, "The Confederates", chapter 33:66].
 
29. The people of the land (Palestinians) have practiced oppression and committed robbery; they wronged the poor and the needy, and oppressed the stranger for lack of judgment (no jews "stranger" in palestine.)
30. And I sought of them a man who puts up a wall and stands in the breach before Me, for the sake of the land that it not be destroyed, but I did not find.
31. And I poured out My fury upon them; with the fire of My wrath I destroyed them. I put their way on their head(burning jews in ww2, and all the killing arabs did,...)," said the Lord God.

 

This is really amusing - the Qur'an tells us that Jews insert words in their scriptures to make them say what they want them to say - and here we see you doing exactly that.

You've made so many errors and false assumptions that I dont know where to begin .... but I'll try;

You say Son of Man only refers to non-Israelites... read Ezekiel 38 in the Old Testament, it says to the ISRAELITE prophet Ezekiel "Son of man, turn your face towards Gog". There are so many other examples, as well as Jesus (who was Israelite) calling himself the "Son of man" in the New Testament.

The prophecy ( Ezekiel 22 ) says that the Jews will be taste the fire of anger AFTER it says they will melt. So, if as you say, they melting means that they will be brought together in Jerusalem, then it doesnt make any difference because they will be punished AFTER as it clearly says in the prophecy.

 

Then you posted:

Originally posted by Dalandau


21. And I shall gather you, and I shall blow upon you with the fire of My anger, and you will be melted in its midst.(melted back in to the land)

22. As silver is melted in the midst of a furnace, so will you be melted in its midst, and you shall know that I, the Lord, have poured out My fury upon you."(you is "son of man" "means non israelites" here)

ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS
 
Verse 21 is saying "you" and so is verse 22, how on earth can you say that the first "you" is referring to Jews and the next "you" is referring to non-Jews ???? And as I already pointed out "son of man" doesnt even mean non-Israelite, and even if it did it wouldnt make any sense here to say that verse 21 is about Jews and verse 22 is about non-Jews.
 
Originally posted by Dalandau

25. There is a conspiracy of her prophets(Jesus and Mohamed) in her midst; like a roaring lion, tearing prey; they devoured souls, riches and honor they take, they increase her widows in her midst.(suicede bombers,...))

Again youre not making any sense. First of all, "her prophets" (her meaning Jerusalem) cannot possibly include Mohammad (pbuh) as he was not Israelite. Secondly why does it say "Prophet" and not "false prophet" - so is the scripture saying that these two prophets are REAL prophets ? Yes or no ?
It's also funny because just earlier you were saying that Prophet Mohammad taught that Jews should be in Jerusalem... now your saying he was conspiring against Jews!!!

MAKE UP YOUR MIND !!!
 
Also I dont see how "suicide bombers" take riches... the ones who are taking away wealth are the Zionist Jews (Taking away wealth from the Palestinians) not the other way around.
 
Originally posted by Dalandau

26. Her priests(jews dont have priests)(new testament and  the Hadith & Sunna)  robbed My Torah and profaned My holy things; they did not distinguish between holy and profane, neither did they let them know [the difference] between unclean and clean, and they hid their eyes from My Sabbaths, and I was profaned in their midst. (Jesus as G*D,Al aqsa that is build on the temple,...)
 
MUSLIMS DONT HAVE PRIESTS EITHER. What does HADITH AND SUNNA have to do with PRIESTS ????
 
And what does "Jesus as G*D" have to do with Palestinian Muslims ?? If anything the United States (Christian) supports Israel, so the Priests and worshippers of Jesus are HELPING THE ZIONIST JEWS AND THEIR GOVERNMENT not the other way around.
 
Originally posted by Dalandau

27. Her princes in her midst are like wolves tearing prey, to shed blood, to destroy souls, for the sake of dishonest gain.(terrorists, suicide bombers,...)
 
So now Palestinians are fighting for "dishonest gain" ???? Seriously, who is fighting for dishonest gain ? The Zionist Khazar Jews are the ones who are doing this.
 
Originally posted by Dalandau

31. And I poured out My fury upon them; with the fire of My wrath I destroyed them. I put their way on their head(burning jews in ww2, and all the killing arabs did,...)," said the Lord God.

First of all the text clearly says that they will be punished in JERUSALEM not Germany (world war 2), and secondly this shows (as you yourself finally confess) that the Palestinians are doing the Lord's work when fighting against the Zionist Jews.


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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 9:22am

yes they are really prophets send by G*D for non israelites but sh*t*n took over!and transformed theyr words see my other post!!!We dont deny that they are prophets!

Great Rabbi Maimonides(Rambam) states that the popularity of Christianity and Islam is part of God's plan to spread the ideals of Torah throughout the world. This moves society closer to a perfected state of morality and toward a greater understanding of God. All this is in preparation for the Messianic age.

 

 



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 9:27am

read again it says they wiil be gatherd too jerusalem after they have been become dross

18. "Son of man(allways refers to non israelites in the whole bible)! The house of Israel has become dross to Me; all of them are copper and tin and iron and lead in the midst of a furnace; dross of silver have they become.(have they become!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
19. Therefore, so said the Lord God: Because you have all become dross, therefore behold, I gather you together into the midst of Jerusalem.(because what became dross shall return to jerusalem)


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 9:42am
"Who is more wicked than one who is reminded of the verses of his Lord, then disregards them, while unaware of his sin? Consequently, we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding (Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, if you invite them to the guidance, they can never ever be guided." (18:57)


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 10:09am

And too prove my point!!!!

"Because you have had a perpetual hatred, and shed the blood of the Children of Israel by the force of your sword in the time of their calamity, in the time their iniquity had an end, therefore, as I live, saith the Lord G-d, I will prepare thee unto blood and will make Mount Seir most desolate and will make thee perpetual desolations, and thy cities shall not return, because thou hast said, these two nations shall be mine, and I will possess it" [Tanach, Ezekiel 35:5ff, Psalm 83].



Posted By: Sawtul Khilafah
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 10:32am
Originally posted by Dalandau

yes they are really prophets send by G*D for non israelites but sh*t*n took over!and transformed theyr words see my other post!!!We dont deny that they are prophets!

Just incase you forgot, you said :

"25. There is a conspiracy of her prophets(Jesus and Mohamed) in her midst"

You claimed that these prophets are CONSPIRING against the "good" Israelites, but now youre saying that these prophets were not conspiring and that their followers are ???

Again, MAKE UP YOUR MIND



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 11:30am

No I mean that the faith of both prophets that have been send by G*D has been hijacked by Sh*it*n!!!!!!! Wake up!!

 



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 17 February 2007 at 11:34am

Since the muslims follow the Hadith & Sunna are they following THE ONE AND ONLY G*D or the ...
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Preface
Quran is indeed the infallible word of G*d, the extremely popular "Hadith & Sunna" have nothing to do with the prophet Muhammad, and that adherence thereto represents flagrant disobedience of G*d and His final prophet (Quran 6:112 & 25:31).

Since the recognition of "Hadith & Sunna" as Satanic innovations is supported by PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, all freethinking people will accept the findings reported in post. For such people, the results include a totally new sense of salvation, and full awareness that the Muslim masses have fallen victim to Satan's schemes.



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NO SALVATION WITHOUT OBEYING THE MESSENGER


"Say (O Muhammad), 'If you love G*d, then follow me. G*d will then love you, and forgive your sins; God is forgiver, merciful.' Say, 'Obey God and the messenger.' If they turn away, then God loves not the disbelievers." (3:3132)


"You shall observe Salat & Zakat, and obey the messenger, that you may attain mercy." (24:56)


"Anyone who disobeys G*d and His messenger will abide in the fire of hell forever." (72:23)



Since all the messengers delivered one and the same message, namely, "YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP EXCEPT G*D," disobeying them constitutes disbelief, or idolworship.



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WHEN DELIVERING G*D'S MESSAGES, messengers do not speak on their own initiative.


"A prophet like me, will the Lord, your G*d, raise up for you from among your own kinsmen; to him you shall listen." (Moses in Deuteronomy 18:15)


"I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their kinsmen, and will put my words into his mouth; he shall tell them all that I command him. If any man will not listen to my words which he speaks in my name, I myself will make him answer for it." (Deuteronomy 18:1819)



"Obeying the Messenger is obeying G*d." (Quran 4:80)


"and he (Muhammad) does not speak on his own initiative." (53:3)




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MUHAMMAD REPRESENTED BY QURAN ALONE


"We sent down to you THIS BOOK truthfully, confirming all previous scriptures, and superseding them. You shall judge among them according to what is sent down from God (this book), and do not follow their wishes if they deviate from the truth.... You shall judge among them according to what is send down from God (this book); do not follow their wishes, and BEWARE lest they divert you from that which is sent down to you from God (this book).... Would they seek the laws of ignorance? WHO IS BETTER THAN GOD as a lawmaker, for those who sincerely believe?" (Quran 5:4850)

MUHAMMAD FORBIDDEN FROM UTTERING ANY RELIGIOUS INSTRUCTIONS OTHER THAN QURAN

"This (Quran) is the utterance of an honorable messenger. It is not the utterance of a poet; rarely do you believe. Nor is it the utterance of a soothsayer; rarely do you take heed. A revelation from the Lord of the universe. HAD HE EVER UTTERED ANY OTHER RELIGIOUS UTTERANCES (attributed to us), we would have punished him severely, then we would have stopped the revelation to him (fired him). None of you could have protected him against us." (69:4047)


These very clear verses teach us that Muhammad was forbidden from uttering any religious teachings beside Quran. The strength of the Arabic text cannot be fully translated to English. But the powerful expressions leave no doubt whatsoever that the Prophet's sole function was to "DELIVER" Quran, the whole Quran, and NOTHING but Quran.

MUHAMMAD ORDERED NEVER TO DEVIATE FROM QURAN. DEVIATION MEANT SEVERE PUNISHMENT

"They almost diverted you (O Muhammad) from our revelations to you; they wanted you to fabricate something else to consider you a friend. If it were not that we strengthened you, you almost leaned towards them a little bit. Had you done it, we would have doubled the punishment for you in this life, and after death; no one could have protected you against us." (17:7375)


In setting the example for us, the Prophet was ordered to adhere strictly to God's revelations to him, specifically identified in 5:4850 (Page 3) as Quran.

The slightest deviation from Quran (see verse 74 above) incurs severe retribution.

Muhammad ordered to deliver QURAN ALONE, without the least alteration, and never to "fabricate" anything else:

"When our verses are recited for them, those who do not expect to meet us would say, 'Bring a Quran other than this, or change it.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I cannot change it on my own initiative. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of a terrible day.' ...Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The guilty never succeed. Yet, they idolize beside God those who possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and say, 'These are our intercessors with God.' ...such is idolworship." (10:1518)



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ONE GOD / ONE SOURCE


Our Almighty Creator commands that QURAN, specifically QURAN, SHALL BE THE ONLY SOURCE of religious teachings.

Furthermore, we are told that THE ACCEPTANCE OF ANY OTHER SOURCES for religious guidance equals the setting up of OTHER GODS BESIDE GOD:


"Say (O Muhammad), 'Whose testimony is greater?' Say, 'God is the witness between me and you that THIS QURAN was given to me to preach it to you, and to whomever it reaches.' However, you certainly bear witness that you set up other gods beside G*d (by upholding other sources beside Quran). Say, 'I will never do what you are doing; I disown your idolworship.'" (6:19)


This profound verse, which happens to be verse [19] of Sura 6, enjoins the believers from upholding or following ANY OTHER SOURCE BESIDE QURAN, and that doing this is equivalent to the setting up of other gods beside God.

ONE G*D / ONE SOURCE

In the strictest possible language, we are commanded to uphold Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Repeatedly, we are commanded to uphold Quran as the ONLY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE.

Again and again, we are reminded that the following of ANY OTHER SOURCE BESIDE QURAN EQUALS THE SETTING UP OF OTHER GODS BESIDE GOD.

Verses 22 through 38 of Sura 17 represent some of the most important commandments in Quran. Immediately following these verses we find the verse shown below:

"This is some of the wisdom revealed to you (in this Quran), and YOU SHALL NOT SET UP ANY OTHER G*D BESIDE GOD (by following any other source beside Quran). Otherwise, you will be thrown into hell, blamed and debased." (17:39)


Despite all these clear commandments and extremely strict injunctions, why do the followers of Hadith & Sunna fail to uphold the Quran alone?


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QURAN: AN EXTRAORDINARY BOOK


Despite the clear commandments, why do the followers of Hadith & Sunna fail to uphold Quran ALONE?

The answer is provided in the same Sura following the commandment shown on Page 8. Verses 45 and 46 of Sura 17 inform us that those who refuse to believe God and heed His commandment to uphold Quran ALONE are deliberately isolated from Quran. These two crucial verses are shown below:

"When you read the Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the Hereafter an invisible barrier. And we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding Quran, and deafness in their ears. Consequently, when you preach your Lord IN THE QURAN ALONE they run away in aversion." (17:4546)


WHAT MORE CAN WE SAY ??

DO YOU BELIEVE G*D OR NOT?

G*d says that Quran is COMPLETE, PERFECT, & FULLY DETAILED, and that you shall not seek any other source:

"We did not leave anything out of this book, then all will be gathered before their Lord (for judgment). Those who do not believe our verses are deaf and dumb; in total darkness. G*d sends astray whomever He wills, and directs whomever He wills in the right path." (6:3839)


"Shall I seek other than G*d as a source of law, when He revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? (6:114)


"The word of your Lord is COMPLETE in truth & justice." (6:115)



THE CONSEQUENCE OF NOT BELIEVING G*D

God says that Quran is COMPLETE, PERFECT, AND FULLY DETAILED.

His commandments are clear and strict that YOU SHALL NOT UPHOLD ANYTHING ELSE BESIDE QURAN as a source of religious guidance
Now, you have the total freedom to decide to believe G*d, or to reject His statements, and ignore His commandments, provided you are willing (or unwilling) to accept the consequences.

You agree, no doubt, that refusing to believe G*d is a very serious offense. Just how serious is expressed in verse 40 of Sura 7:

"Surely, those who do not believe our revelations, and are too arrogant to heed them, the gates of the sky never open for them, nor will they ever enter Paradise until the camel passes through the needle's eye. We thus requite the guilty." (7:40)

Thus, it is A PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY for those who refuse to believe G*d to enter Paradise.

IMPORTANT CRITERION OF DIVINE REVELATION

Some people claim that the "Hadith & Sunna" are divine revelations. Obviously, they are not aware that the criterion of divine revelation is PERFECT PRESERVATION. Since the socalled hadith & sunna of the Prophet have been vastly corrupted, they can never meet the criterion of divine revelation. It is an acknowledged fact that the vast majority of Hadiths are false fabrications.


"We have sent down the revelation, and we will surely preserve it." (15:9)

"Indeed, this is an honorable scripture. Falsehood could never enter it in the past, present, or future; a revelation from the most wise, the most praised." (41:4142)


The blasphemy is evident when they claim that Hadith and Sunna are divine revelations. Do they not realize that God Almighty is capable of preserving His revelations?



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HADITH & SUNNA = 100% CONJECTURE


Although G*d declares that Quran is FULLY DETAILED, & shall be the only source, the majority of Muslims have been duped into following the conjecture known as Hadith & Sunna.

While Quran is proven by PHYSICAL EVIDENCE to be the authentic and unaltered word of God (see the book, "QURAN: VISUAL PRESENTATION OF THE MIRACLE"), Hadith and Sunna are unanimously recognized as conjecture.

"Shall I seek OTHER THAN GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of G*d. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (6:114116)

"They insist upon following conjecture, when the guidance is given to them herein from their Lord." (53:23)


OBEYING THE MESSENGER IS CONDITIONED

Obeying the messenger is absolute only as far as the Quranic revelations are concerned.

Obeying the messenger is in upholding Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Obedience is strictly ON CONDITION THAT the source is G*d through the messenger, and not the messenger who is no more than a human being, subject to errors.

As shown in the verse below, the messenger as a man is to be obeyed ONLY if he is right:

"O prophet, if the believing women come to you and pledge that they will not idolize anything beside G*d, nor steal, nor commit adultery, nor kill their children, nor produce any falsehood, nor disobey you WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT, you shall accept their pledge, and ask God to forgive them." (60:12)

Thus, the condition is evident that Muhammad the man, unlike Muhammad the messenger, shall be obeyed ONLY IF HE IS RIGHT.

OBEYING THE MESSENGER IS CONDITIONED

The Quran emphasizes that obedience is absolute when the source is God, while the personal opinion of the messenger may be detrimental to him and/or to those who follow his personal opinions:

"Anything good that happens to you (O Muhammad) is from G*d. And anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and God suffices as a witness. Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying G*d. As for those who turn away, we did not send you as their guardian." (4:7980)

Thus, the personal opinion of Muhammad may be bad, or may cause bad things to happen. On the other hand, Muhammad the messenger utters THE WORDS OF G*D, i.e., the Quran, and must be obeyed absolutely. For whoever obeys the messenger is obeying G*d, and we are to obey the commandments of God, not the commandments of men.

OBEYING THE MESSENGER IS CONDITIONED

The Quran gives numerous examples that we must obey what Muhammad uttered as a messenger of G*d, and NOT NECESSARILY what he uttered as a man. As a messenger, he uttered Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Furthermore, the Quran teaches that Muhammad the man actually committed serious errors. Thus, in the verse shown below we see that God wished to establish a law whereby a man can marry the divorced wife of his adopted son. Muhammad was to be our example. However, this was contrary to the traditions of Arabia, and the Prophet actually "feared the people instead of fearing G*d."

"You said to the one blessed by G*d and blessed by you, 'Do not divorce your wife, and observe God.' Thus, you hid in yourself what God wanted to declare, and you feared the people when G*d is the one you should fear. Then, when Zeid (Muhammad's adopted son) finally divorced her, we had you marry her. This was done to show that the believing men are allowed to marry the divorced wives of their adopted sons. The commands of God shall be carried out." (33:37)

OBEYING THE MESSENGER IS CONDITIONED

One compete Sura illustrates the fact that we are to obey Muhammad ONLY in his Quranic utterances, and NOT in his personal utterances or personal behavior. This rules out the socalled "Hadith" and the socalled "Sunna" as legitimate sources of religious guidance.

The Sura is entitled "'Abasa = He Frowned", and narrates an incident where Muhammad ignored a poor blind man, and gave his full attention to a rich man:

"He (Muhammad) frowned and turned away, when the blind man came to him. How do you know; he may be saved? Or, he may heed the message and benefit from such heeding. As for the rich man, you (Muhammad) gave him your attention. Even though you cannot guarantee his salvation. But the one who came to you seeking salvation, and sincerely reverent, you disregarded him. Indeed, THIS IS A REMINDER, for those who choose to remember." (80:112)



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THE IDOLIZATION OF MUHAMMAD


Refusing to believe God in His repeated assertions that the QURAN IS COMPLETE, PERFECT, & SHALL BE THE ONLY SOURCE of religious guidance, and following the conjecture known as Hadith & Sunna constitutes deification of the prophet Muhammad against his will.

"Say (O Muhammad), 'If the ocean were ink for the words of my Lord, the ocean would have run out before my Lord runs out of words, even if we supplied twice as much ink.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your G*d is ONE G*D. Thus, anyone who looks forward to meeting his Lord shall lead a righteous life, and NEVER SET UP ANY IDOLS beside his Lord.'" (18:109110)

These verses clearly inform us that G*d does not suffer from shortage of words; that He gave us ALL THE WORDS we need in this Quran, and that we should not seek the words of Muhammad, or anyone else, and that Muhammad is a man like other men; he should not be idolized (see end of verse).

QURAN: YOU SHALL NOT IDOLIZE MUHAMMAD

There are only two verses in Quran that describe the prophet Muhammad as "no more than a human being like you."

IS IT COINCIDENCE THAT BOTH VERSES FORBID IDOLATRY AT THE END OF EACH VERSE ??

The first verse is shown on the previous page, and the second verse is shown below:

"Say (O Muhammad), 'I am no more than a human being like you. It has been revealed to me that your God is ONE G*D. Therefore, you shall observe Him ALONE, and ask His forgiveness, AND WOE TO THE IDOLWORSHIPERS.'" (41:6)

The true believers believe their Lord in His statements that QURAN IS COMPLETE, PERFECT, FULLY DETAILED, AND SHALL BE THE SOLE SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE. Only the idolworshipers will seek other than Quran. Following "Hadith & Sunna" is idolization of the prophet Muhammad against his will.

THE ABUSE OF QURAN

"God and His angels encourage the prophet. O you who believe, you too shall encourage him, and support him completely." (33:56)

This is by far the most abused verse in the whole Quran. Through satanic distortions, ignorance, and idolworship, this verse causes millions of Muslims to glorify the prophet against his will, instead of glorifying God.

People who sing the praises of this particular verse day and night are obviously ignorant of two important facts:

(1) The word "Naby = prophet " when referring to the prophet Muhammad ALWAYS refers to him when he was alive; not after his death.

(2) In the same Sura, and 13 verses ahead of this verse, we find that G*d nd His angels do the same honoring for ALL THE BELIEVERS.

"G*d and His angels encourage the believers, to take them out of darkness . Into the light." (33:43)


THE ABUSE OF QURAN

Verse 103 of Sura 9 further clarifies the meaning of the words "SSALLOO" and "YUSSALLEE." In this verse, we see that the Prophet is commanded to "YUSSALLEE" for the believers, just as they are asked to do for him in verse 56 of Sura 33 (see Page 20).

"Take (O Muhammad) a portion of their money for charity, in order to purify them and sanctify them, and encourage them (SSALLEE 'ALAYHIM) for your encouragement is a consolation for them. God is hearer, omniscient." (9:103).

Thus, the true meaning of this expression is "encourage," and NOT "praise day and night" as those who abuse the Quran have indicated.

SUMMARY

1. G*d and His angels encourage the believers, to take them out of darkness into the light (33:43).

2. G*d and His angels encourage the Prophet during his life to keep him on the right path (33:56).

3. The believers are asked to support the Prophet during his life (33:56), and the Prophet does the same for the believers (9:103).


THE ABUSE OF QURAN

"In the messenger of God, you have a good example; a good example for those who are seeking God and the Last day, and commemorate God frequently." (33:21)

Satan used this verse to claim a special status for the idolization of Muhammad, and to convince the people of the necessity of Sunna (traditions) of the prophet.

There is no doubt that the prophet Muhammad is our best example. And his example is set by upholding Quran, and nothing but Quran.

Obviously, those who fell in Satan's trap are ignorant of the fact that ABRAHAM IS DESCRIBED IN QURAN IN THE SAME WORDS; word for word.

"In Abraham and those who believed with him, you have a good example; for those who are seeking G*d and the Last day." (60:4, 6)

DOES G*D HATE MUHAMMAD ???

Of course not. But when you repeat the same things that G*d says about Muhammad in Quran, they accuse you of hating Muhammad.

Similarly, when you tell the Christians that Jesus is a human being and a messenger of G*d, they accuse you of hating Jesus.

MUHAMMAD CANNOT GUIDE ANYONE (28:56)

"You (Muhammad) cannot guide even the ones you love. G*d is the one who guides whomever He wills, for He knows best those who deserve the guidance." (28:56)

The sole function of the prophet was to deliver Quran without any alteration, addition, reduction, or explanation.



THE TRUE LOVE OF MUHAMMAD

The true love of Jesus is to recognize him as a human and a messenger of God. The Christians love Jesus so much, yet he disowns them on the Day of Judgment (Matthew 7:23 and Quran 5:116).

The true love of Muhammad is to recognize him as a human and to follow his teachings, i.e., UPHOLD QURAN AND NOTHING BUT QURAN. Those who follow "Hadith & Sunna" are named as Muhammad's enemies, and Muhammad disowns them on the Day of Judgment as we see below:

"(On the day of judgment) the messenger will say, 'My Lord; my people have deserted THIS QURAN.' We thus set up against every prophet enemies from among the guilty. Your LORD SUFFICES AS A GUIDE AND SUPPORTER." (25:3031)

Please note the "word for word" similarity between verse 31 above, and verse 112 or Sura 6 which deals specifically with "Hadith."

God is the one who created you; G*d is the one who provides for you; G*d is the one who terminates your life; G*d is the one who resurrects you; G*d is the one who calls you to account. Muhammad does none of these things (see 30:40).

MUHAMMAD DOES NOT KNOW THE FUTURE

"Say (O Muhammad), 'I do not bring anything new that is different from any other messenger. I have no idea what may happen to me, or to you. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I am no more than a manifest warner.'" (46:9)

"Say (O Muhammad), 'I possess no power to benefit or harm even myself, except in accordance with God's will. (Nor do I know the future); had I known the future, I would have increased my wealth, and no harm would have afflicted me. I am no more than a warner, as well as bearer of good news for those who believe.'" (7:188)


MUHAMMAD DOES NOT KNOW THE FUTURE

Yet, hundreds of "Hadiths" narrate future events that have nothing to do with Quran, and represent personal predictions.

One of the most prominent "Hadiths" is shown below:

"You shall uphold my Sunna (traditions), and the Sunna of the 'guided Khalifas' (AlKhulafaa' AlRashideen) who will come after me."

It should be noted that the expression "AlKhulafaa' AlRashideen" did not appear in Arabic literature until 200 years after the prophet; it is a modern expression.

How did the prophet know that there will be "Khulafaa'" who will succeed him, and how did he know that they will be called "AlKhulafaa' AlRashideen"?

The Expression "AlKhulafaa' AlRashideen" refers specifically to the four Khalifas: Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, and Ali. It was not known for two centuries after the prophet.

THE MYTH OF INTERCESSION


Intercession is one of Satan's most effective tricks to dupe the people into idolizing their prophets and/or saints.

Although the Quran repeatedly states that there will be no intercession on the day of judgment, many Muslims were duped, through "Hadith & Sunna" into idolizing the prophet Muhammad against his will, and inventing the concept of INTERCESSION (Shafaa'ah):

"Spend from our provisions to you before a day comes wherein there will be no trade, no nepotism, and NO INTERCESSION." (2:254)

"The prophets simply follow the commandments of G*d. He knows their past and future. THEY CANNOT INTERCEDE EXCEPT ON BEHALF OF THOSE ALREADY SAVED BY G*D. The prophets themselves worry about their own fate." (21:28)




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THE DEIFICATION OF MUHAMMAD


THE MYTH OF INTERCESSION

Despite the Quran's repeated assertions that Muhammad possesses no power to benefit anyone or harm anyone (see Page 25, & Page 30), Satan succeeded in duping many people through the concept of intercession. Satan convinced his victims that Muhammad will actually take them out of hell, and admit them into heaven!

Many socalled "Muslims" extend the concept of intercession to include numerous saints and/or imams:

"They idolize beside God those who possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and say, 'These are our intercessors at God.' Say, 'Are you informing God of something He does not know in the heavens or the earth?' Glory be to Him; He is much too high to have any partners." (10:18)

THE DEIFICATION OF MUHAMMAD THE MYTH OF MUHAMMAD THE INTERCESSOR

The concept of intercession implies that God has some partners who intercede with Him on behalf of people.

Therefore, intercession is idol worship, and those who believe that Muhammad will intercede on behalf of anyone are idolizing the Prophet against his will. Intercession by Muhammad is prevalent in the Satanic innovations known as Hadith and/or Sunna.

The Quran clearly identifies intercession as idol worship, and declares a GREAT CRITERION; that those who believe in intercession cannot stand to talk about God alone; THEY HAVE TO MENTION THEIR IDOLS ALONG.

"Say, 'To G*d belongs ALL INTERCESSION. To Him belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, then to Him you will be returned.' When G*D ALONE is advocated, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink with aversion. But when idols are mentioned along with Him, they become satisfied." (39:45)

MUHAMMAD WILL NOT CALL YOU TO ACCOUNT

"Your ONLY mission (O Muhammad) is to deliver (Quran), while it is we who will call them to account." (13:40)


MUHAMMAD CANNOT BENEFIT YOU OR HARM YOU

"Say (O Muhammad), 'I possess no power to harm myself, or benefit myself.'" (10:49)

"Say (O Muhammad), 'I possess no power to harm you, or benefit you through guiding you.'" (72:21)


Thus, the prophet will not put you in Paradise, nor can he take you out of hell, nor will he call you to account before him, nor can he benefit you, nor can he harm you; HIS SOLE MISSION WAS DELIVERING QURAN, & NOTHING BUT QURAN. To love him and honor him is to follow Quran alone, and reject the fabrications attributed to him.

FUNCTIONS OF EVERY MESSENGER

YOU SHALL NOT WORSHIP EXCEPT GOD


Neither Jesus, nor Muhammad, want to be idolized. Their sole function was to preach the worship of G*D ALONE.

"Every messenger we sent before you was instructed to preach that there is no god except Me; you shall worship Me alone. Then they said, 'God most gracious has begotten a son.' Glory be to Him; all the messengers are no more than honored servants. They do not speak on their own; they simply follow His commands. He knows their past and their future, and they possess no power to intercede except on behalf of those already approved by G*d. The messengers themselves are worried about their own fate. And, if any of them claims to be a god beside God, we will punish him in hell; we thus punish the wicked." (21:2529)



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SOLE FUNCTION OF THE PROPHET: DELIVER QURAN


Repeatedly, the Quran employs "the double negative" to emphasize that Muhammad had NO function EXCEPT delivering Quran:

"You have NO duty EXCEPT delivering (Quran)" (42:48)

"Your ONLY duty is delivering (Quran), while we will call them to account." (13:40)

"The messenger has NO function EXCEPT delivering (Quran) and God knows whatever you declare, as well as whatever you conceal. Say, 'The good and the bad are not the same, despite the abundance of the bad.' Therefore, you shall observe God, O you who possess intelligence, that you may succeed." (5:99100)


Unfortunately, those who refuse to believe that Quran is the ONLY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE are much more abundant than those who believe. (see also 16:35, 82; 24:54; 29:18; 36:17; & 64:12)

MUHAMMAD DOES NOT EXPLAIN, INTERPRET,

OR ANTICIPATE QURAN; JUST DELIVER & FOLLOW.

Hadith & Sunna advocates claim that Hadith & Sunna are needed to explain Quran. However, Quran teaches that God is the teacher of Quran; that God will put Quran into the hearts of believers regardless of their mother tongue; and that Muhammad will not explain Quran. Documents are shown below:

"G*d is the teacher of Quran." (55:12)

"Whether it came down in nonArabic or Arabic, say, 'For those who believe, it is a guidance and healing. As for the disbelievers, they will be deaf and blind to it.'" (41:44)

"Do not move your tongue (O Muhammad) in anticipation of Quran. It is we who put it together as a Quran. Once we recite it, you shall follow it. Then, it is we who explain it." (75:1619)


THE FOLLOWERS OF HADITH & SUNNA DO NOT FOLLOW THEIR OWN TEACHINGS

The most authoritative books of Hadith, namely, Muslim & Ibn Hanbal, report that the Prophet ordered that no one shall take anything from him EXCEPT QURAN. Shown below is the Arabic text of this Hadith:



"Abi Saeed AlKhudry may G*d be pleased with him reported that the messenger of G*d may G*d exalt him & grant him peace had said, 'Do not write anything from me EXCEPT QURAN. Anyone who wrote anything other than Quran shall erase it.'" !!!

Thus, according to their own teachings,

THEY DISOBEY THE PROPHET

INCREDIBLE FACT: THEY DO NOT FOLLOW THEIR OWN TEACHINGS

According to the most "authoritative" sources of Hadith, the Prophet never changed his mind about writing from him ONLY QURAN:



Zayd Ibn Thabit (the Prophet's closest revelation writer) visited the Khalifa Mu'aawiya (more than 30 years after the Prophet's death), and told him a story about the Prophet. Mu'aawiya liked the story and ordered someone to write it down. But Zayd said, "The messenger of God ordered us never to write anything of his Hadith." (Reported by Ibn Hanbal)

THEY DISOBEY THEIR OWN FABRICATED IDOL !! =======================================

QURAN: DO THEY HAVE A "BOOK" WHERE

THEY FIND ANYTHING THEY WISH ?

When you confront the followers of Hadith & Sunna with the Hadith , they admit the existence of such Hadith. They explain their failure to follow their own teachings by the fact that there exist equally "authentic" Hadiths where the Prophet ordered the writing of his Hadiths!!

The Quran describes such people as "criminals," and asks: "Do they have a 'Book' where they can find anything they wish???"

"Shall we treat the Muslims like the criminals? What is wrong with your judgment? DO YOU HAVE A BOOK WHERE YOU CAN FIND ANYTHING YOU WISH?"

Both Hadith and Sunna fit this Quranic description; as a "Book where you can find anything you wish."

The conjectural and contradictory nature of Hadith and Sunna are unanimously recognized.



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THEIR FAVORITE QUESTION


"If Quran is complete and fully detailed (as G*d says), where can we find the details of Salat prayers?"

This famous question reveals their total ignorance of Quran and a subconscious effort to prove that G*d is wrong in His repeated assertions that Quran is "complete" and "fully detailed."

For the Quran teaches in no uncertain terms that Abraham is the founder of Islam as it is practiced today. As such, what did Abraham contribute to our daily life as Muslims?

The Quran teaches that ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM (Salat, Zakat, Fasting & Hajj) CAME TO US FROM ABRAHAM, GENERATION AFTER GENERATION.

Thus, Islam in its final form, as is practiced today, is based on two things: (1) QURAN: contributed through Muhammad, and (2) RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: through Abraham.

ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM EXISTED BEFORE MUHAMMAD.

Muhammad's SOLE FUNCTION was to deliver Quran (see Pages 3033).

ABRAHAM: THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM


Abraham was the first recipient of the concept of ISLAM, and the first user of the word "MUSLIM" (see 2:131).

"You shall strive in the cause of God as you should. He has blessed you, and imposed no hardship in your religion; the RELIGION OF YOUR FATHER ABRAHAM. Abraham is the one who named you 'Muslims' in the beginning. Thus, the messenger serves as witness among you, just as you serve as witnesses among the people. Therefore, you shall observe the Salat prayers, give the Zakat charity, and hold fast to God; He is you Lord; the best Lord, and the best supporter." (22:78)

Thus, if Abraham is the founder of Islam, did he contribute anything to our Islamic life?

The answer is: "YES; he contributed THE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES (Salat, Zakat, Fasting, & Hajj)."

ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF ABRAHAM

While Muhammad's mission, sole mission, was delivering Quran, ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES CAME THROUGH ABRAHAM.

"They said, 'Be you Jews or Christians in order to be guided.' Say, 'We follow the religion of Abraham, monotheism; he never was an idolworshiper.'" (2:135)

"Abraham was neither Jewish, nor Christian; he was a monotheist; a Muslim; he never was an idolworshiper. The people most worthy of following Abraham are those who followed him, and this prophet (Muhammad), and those who believed. God is the Lord of the believers." (3:6768)

MUHAMMAD WAS A FOLLOWER OF ABRAHAM

"Then we inspired you (O Muhammad) to follow the religion of Abraham, monotheism; never was he an idolworshiper." (16:123)

Logically, if Muhammad was a follower of Abraham, and we are followers of Muhammad, then we are followers of Abraham. What did we learn from Abraham???

The Quran teaches that we learned all the religious practices of Islam from Abraham. This includes Salat, Zakat, fasting, and Hajj.

Therefore, ISLAM IS BASED ON TWO THINGS:

(1) QURAN: THROUGH MUHAMMAD

(2) RELIGIOUS PRACTICES: VIA ABRAHAM

SALAT PRACTICED BY MUHAMMAD'S OPPONENTS

The whole Arabian society before and during the time of Muhammad followed the religion of Abraham. Thus, Abu Lahab, Abu Jahl, and the idolaters of Quraish used to observe the FIVE DAILY SALAT PRAYERS exactly as we do today, with the single exception of substituting the Quranic Faatihha for the Ibrahimy Faatihha.

"G*d was not to punish them while you (Muhammad) were still among them. G*d was not to punish them while they are seeking forgiveness. Yet, they fully deserved G*d's punishment for repelling from the sacred mosque, though they were not the guardians thereof; only the righteous are guardians thereof, but most of them do not know. THEIR SALAT PRAYERS at the shrine were no more than deceit and repulsion. Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief." (8:3335)

SACRED MONTHS OBSERVED BEFORE MUHAMMAD

The four sacred months in Islam were observed before the time of Muhammad. This further proves that all religious practices of Islam were neither initiated, nor taught by the Prophet Muhammad; his sole mission was to deliver Quran.

"The count of months according to God is twelve, as shown in God's scriptures, since the day He created the heavens and the earth. Four of them are sacred. This is the right religion; therefore, do not wrong your souls during the four months. But you may fight the idolaters, if they attack you therein, and know that God is with the righteous. The practice of alternating the sacred months is a pagan practice. Thus, they changed the sacred months, making them violable one year and sacred the next year, as if to maintain the count instituted by God......" (9:3637)

TODAY'S IDOLATERS vs QURAISH'S IDOLATERS

Millions of "Muslims" today practice a form of idolatry that is similar to the idolatry of preMuhammad Quraish.

Millions of "Muslims" in Egypt, Iran, Pakistan, India, and may other countries go to the Mosque to pray. Their Salat prayers are definitely to God. After finishing their Salat, they visit the tomb of the saint and ask for health, wealth, and/or children.

The idol worshipers of Quraish observed the five Salat prayers exactly as we do today, but they also visited their idols Allat, Al'Uzzah, Manat, etc., to ask for health, wealth, and/or children.

Thus, the flagrant idolatry practiced by millions of Muslims today is exactly identical to the idolatry of Quraish before and during the time of Muhammad; only the idols are different.




Those who refuse to believe God are challenging Quran by asking, "If Quran is complete and fully detailed (as stated in 6:19, 38, & 114), where can we find the details of Salat and Zakat?" For such people, who are obviously isolated from Quran (see 18:57), we present the following Quranic truth:

"And we granted him (Abraham) Isaac and Jacob as a gift, and we made them righteous. And we appointed them imams who guided in accordance with our commandments, AND WE TAUGHT THEM RIGHTEOUS WORKS AND THE OBSERVANCE OF SALAT AND ZAKAT." (21:7273)




Unfortunately, this plain Quranic truth is not accessible by those who keep trying to prove that Quran is not complete.

FIRST, they have to come to sincere conviction that Quran is complete, perfect, and fully detailed; they have to believe their Lord. Once they attain this conviction, the shields will be removed from around their hearts, the deafness will be removed from their ears, and they will become worthy of the Quranic truth.

FASTING CAME TO US VIA ABRAHAM

(then modified in Quran)



"You are permitted to have sexual intercourse with your wives during the night of fasting; they are your confidantes, and you are their confidants. God knew that YOU USED TO BETRAY YOUR SOULS (by having intercourse during the night) IN THE PAST. He has redeemed you, and He has pardoned you. HENCEFORTH, you may have intercourse with them, seeking what God has permitted for you." (part of 2:187)



This verse, therefore, clearly informs us that fasting was practiced before Muhammad according to the religion of Abraham (Islam).



When fasting as initially ordained through Abraham, sexual intercourse was prohibited throughout the fasting month of Ramadan, day and night.



HAJJ CAME TO US VIA ABRAHAM

Please note that the same verse also shows THE METHOD OF SALAT PRAYER (bowing & prostrating):

"We pointed out to Abraham the location of the shrine, and directed him to worship none beside Me, and to purify My shrine for those who would visit it, those who would retreat therein, and those who would bow and prostrate. And you shall declare (O Abraham) that the people shall observe Hajj. They will then come to you, walking or riding, from the farthest places." (22:2627)



Thus, Quran clearly teaches that ALL RELIGIOUS PRACTICES IN ISLAM (Salat, Zakat, Fasting, & Hajj) came to us via Abraham.



Quran teaches that God taught Abraham how to do Salat, Zakat, Fasting, & Hajj, then Abraham taught these practices to his children, and so on generation after generation.

THEY STILL INSIST

Even after showing all this Quranic evidence to those who do not believe God, you will note that they insist on their ways. Do not be surprised if they ask you after all this: "Where are the details of Salat prayers in Quran?"



Until they decide to believe their Creator in His repeated assertions that Quran is complete, they can never see the Quranic truth. This is documented below:



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CONSEQUENCES OF REFUSING TO BELIEVE QURAN



Deprivation from seeing, hearing, or understanding Quran. Thus, guidance becomes impossible:

"Who is more wicked than one who is reminded of the verses of his Lord, then disregards them, while unaware of his sin? Consequently, we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding (Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, if you invite them to the guidance, they can never ever be guided." (18:57)

TWO UNFORTUNATE FACTS OF LIFE

(1) The majority of people are disbelievers.

(2) The majority of BELIEVERS are going to hell.



"The majority of people, no matter what you do, are not believers." (12:103)

"And the majority of those who believe in God are idolworshipers." (12:106)


Thus, IF YOU ARE WITH MAJORITY, YOU ARE IN DEEP TROUBLE.



Even if you are with the majority of BELIEVERS, you are in deep trouble.



Those who worship G*D ALONE are a rare and extremely fortunate group; they are a minority of the minority.

PROBLEM IS: THEY THINK THEY ARE RIGHTEOUS


"Anyone who disregards the message of G*d most gracious, we appoint a devil to be his constant companion. The devils then divert them from the path, yet make them THINK that they are rightly guided." (43:3637)



"You shall be strictly righteous at every mosque, and worship G*d, devoting your worship absolutely to Him alone. Just as He created you initially, you will be returned. Some He guides. Others are committed to straying, for they take the devils as allies instead of G*d, and THINK that they are rightly guided." (7:2930)

"The worst losers are those who go astray, then THINK that they are rightly guided." (18:103104)


UNAWARE OF THEIR IDOL WORSHIP

The majority of "believers" fall into idolworship without realizing it; they are not aware that they are idolaters:

"On the day (of judgment) when we gather all the people, we will ask the idolworshipers, 'Where are your idols whom you set up beside God?' Then, their only answer will be, 'By God our Lord, we were not idolworshipers.' Note how they lied even to themselves, and note that the idols they had set up will abandon them." (6:2224)

Thus, there are people who are idolworshipers, who are unaware of their idolatry. Could you be one of them? How do you know that you are not one of them? This is your only chance to ascertain that you are not an idolworshiper.

HOW CAN YOU ASCERTAIN THAT YOUR ARE NOT AN IDOLWORSHIPER?





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THE IMPORTANCE OF "HADITH & SUNNA"


Quran teaches that "Hadith & Sunna" constitute the necessary test to distinguish the true Muslim from the false Muslim.


The true Muslim believes God in His statements that Quran is complete, perfect, and fully detailed (6:19, 38, & 114). Consequently, the true Muslim does not accept any other source for religious guidance.

As for the false Muslim, he or she will become attracted to "Hadith & Sunna", and thus [be] exposed as a hypocrite who utters belief, while the heart inside is denying (see 16:22).

"We set up against every prophet enemies, human and jinn devils, who exhort each other to invent fancy statements in order to deceive. Had your Lord willed, they would not have done it. (But it is G*d's will) in order that the minds of those who do not believe in the hereafter may listen thereto, and to let them accept it, and to expose their true identity." (6:112113)

Are you satisfied with the Quran? Do you believe G*d? Or, do you feel that Quran is not complete; that you need additional sources of religious guidance?

ONE AUTHENTIC "HADITH"

On the day of judgment, Muhammad will be the first to complain that his followers had abandoned Quran, in favor of the fabrications by his enemies (Hadith & Sunna):

"And the messenger will say, 'My Lord, my people have deserted THIS QURAN.' We thus set up against every prophet enemies who are wicked. YOUR LORD SUFFICES AS A GUIDE AND SUPPORTER (i.e., Quran is enough)." (25:3031)

Note the word for word similarity between 25:31 shown above, and 6:112 shown on the previous page. Could this be coincidental?

Thus, the prophet Muhammad will be disappointed with those who love him excessively, just as Jesus will be disappointed with those Christians who considered him to be a god or son of God.

QURAN: THE ONLY LEGITIMATE "HADITH"

"These are God's verses; we recite them for you truthfully. In which "Hadith", beside God and His verses, do they believe in? WOE TO EVERY SINFUL FABRICATOR. He hears God's verses, then insists arrogantly on his way, as if he never heard them; promise him painful retribution. When he learns anything from our verses, he takes it in vain; these have deserved humiliating retribution. Awaiting them is hell; neither their earnings, nor the idols they had set up beside God can help them; they have deserved terrible retribution. THIS IS THE GUIDANCE, and those who do not believe the verses of their Lord will suffer debasement, and painful retribution." (45:611)

Do you believe God's verses? Do you believe that Quran is complete, perfect, and fully detailed (6:19, 38, & 114)? Or, do you have to have other sources beside Quran?

Quran is the only "Hadith" to be followed; all other Hadiths are blasphemous and misleading fabrications:



"G*d has revealed the best 'Hadith'; a book that is consistent, and describes both ways (to heaven and Hell). The skins of those who reverence their Lord shudder therefrom, then their skins and hearts soften up and receive G*d's message. Such is G*d's guidance; He guides whomever He wills. As for those sent astray by Him, no one can guide them." (39:23)

"There are those who advocate vain 'Hadith' causing diversion from the path of God, without knowledge, and fail to take such actions seriously; these have deserved humiliating retribution. And when our verses are recited to him, he turns away arrogantly, as if he never heard them; as if his ears are deaf; promise him painful retribution." (31:67)




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THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE


In addition to the clear Quranic statements assuring the believers that Quran is complete; perfect, fully detailed, and shall be the ONLY source of religious guidance, it was the will of God Almighty to further support these revelations with irrefutable PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

A mathematical miracle was discovered in Quran, whereby every word, indeed every letter, was placed in Quran in accordance with an extremely intricate numerical code. The code is based on the number [19], which is the number of letters in the opening statement of Quran, and the number indicated in 74:30 as providing the answer to those who claim that Quran is manmade. This mathematical miracle proves beyond doubt that Quran is a divine scripture, and that it has been perfectly preserved. For details please see the book, "QURAN: VISUAL PRESENTATION OF THE MIRACLE."

The PHYSICAL EVIDENCE supporting Quran as THE ONLY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE is interlocking with the mathematical miracle of Quran; it is also based on the number [19]. Such evidence is presented on pages 6472.

Since the evidence is purely PHYSICAL, rather than interpretative, all freethinking people will accept it. Only those hopelessly trapped in false convictions will fail to see the clear truth, due to the curse of rejecting Quran (see 17:45).



SUMMARY & CONCLUSIONS

The miracle of Quran detailed in this book ranges from extreme simplicity to extreme intricacy. Because Quran was sent down for ALL people, its language ranges from the very simple, to the highest levels of linguistic and literary excellence. This renders the message attainable by everyone, regardless of the level of education. The same is true with the Quran's miracle. Thus, the physical facts that make up this extraordinary phenomenon can be divided into SIMPLE FACTS and INTRICATE FACTS.

THE SIMPLE FACTS

(1) The opening statement of Quran consists of 19 letters. (2) Quran consists of 114 chapters, or 6 x 19. (3) The first Quranic revelation (96:15) was 19 words. (4) The first revelation consisted of 76 letters, or 19 x 4. (5) First chapter revealed (Ch. 96) consists of 19 verses. (6) From the end of Quran, Ch. 96 is in position 19. (7) First chapter revealed consists of 304 letters; 19 x 16. (8) Last chapter revealed (Ch. 110) consists of 19 words. (9) First verse of last revelation consists of 19 letters. (10) Second revelation (68:19) was 38 words; 19 x 2. (11) Third revelation (73:110) was 57 words; 19 x 3. (12) Fourth revelation (74:130) brought the No. 19 itself. (13) Fifth revelation (Ch. 1) placed the 19lettered opening statement immediately after the No. 19 of 74:30.

SUMMARY & CONCLUSIONS (cont'd):

(14) First word in the opening statement occurs in Quran exactly 19 times. (15) Second word in the opening statement (Allah) occurs 2,698 times, a multiple of 19 (19 x 142). (16) Third word in the opening statement (Rahman) is mentioned in Quran 57 times (19 x 3). (17) Fourth word in the opening statement (Rahim) is mentioned in Quran 114 times (19 x 6). (18) Multiplication factors of the opening statement (see points 1417 above) [1+142+3+6] add up to a total of 152, which is also a multiple of 19 (19 x 8). (19) Each frequency of occurrence connected with the opening statement, i.e., 19, 2698, 57, & 114 corresponds to the numerical value of one of God's names. (20) All compiled lists of the known names of God (more than 400) were found to include ONLY FOUR names with numerical values divisible by 19. These four names are the same four which correspond to the frequencies of occurrence mentioned in point 19 above. (21) Opening statement is missing from Chapter 9, but compensated in Chapter 27, verse 30. This restores the frequency of this crucial statement to 114 (19 x 6). (22) Between the missing statement (Chapter 9) and the extra statement (Chapter 27) there are 19 chapters.
THE INTRICATE FACTS

(23) Chapter 50 is entitled "Q," initialed with the letter "Q," and contains 57 Q's (57=19x3). (24) The only other chapter initialed with "Q," namely, Chapter 42, also contains 57 Q's (19 x 3). (25) The letter "Q" stands for "Quran," and the total occurrence of "Q" in the two Qinitialed chapters equals the number of chapters in Quran (57+57=114).

Summary & Conclusions (cont'd):

(26) First verse in Chapter 50 (entitled "Q") describes Quran as "Majeed = Glorious," and the numerical value of the word "Majeed" is 57, exactly the same as the number of Q's in this chapter. (27) Chapter 68 is initialed with the letter "N" and contains 133 N's; or 19 x 7. (28) Chapters 7, 19, & 38 are initialed with the letter "S" (Saad), and the total frequency of occurrence of this letter in the three chapters is 152, or 19 x 8. (29) Chapter 36 is initialed with the letters "Y" & "S," and the total frequency of these two letters in this chapter is 285, or 19 x 15. (30) Chapters 40 through 46 are initialed with "H" and "M." The total frequency of these two letters in the seven chapters is 2147, or 19 x 113. (31) Chapter 42 is prefixed with the three initials "'A," "S," & "Q," and the total occurrence of these three letters in this chapter is 209, or 19 x 11. (32) Chapter 19 is initialed with five letters, namely "K," "H," "Y," "'A," and "S," and the total frequency of occurrence of these five letters in this chapter is 798, or 19 x 42. (33) The Quranic initials "H," "T.H.," "T.S." and "T.S.M." constitute a unique interlocking relationship within their five chapters, namely, 19, 20, 26, 27, & 28. The total frequency of occurrence of these letters in their five chapters is 1767, or 19 x 93. (34) Chapter 2 is initialed with the letters "A.L.M." and contains 9899 of these letters (19 x 521). (35) Chapter 3 is also initialed with the letters "A.L.M." and contains 5662 of these letters (19 x 298). (36) Chapters 29, 30, 31, & 32 are also initialed with the letters "A.L.M." and the total frequency of occurrence of these letters is 1672 (19x88), 1254 (19x66), 817 (19x43), and 570 (19x30), respectively. (37) Chapters 10 and 11 are initialed with the letters "A.L.R.," and contain exactly the same total frequency of occurrence, namely, 2489 each (19x131). (38) Chapters 12, 14, and 15 are also initialed with the three letters "A.L.R." The total frequency of occurrence of these letters in these chapters is 2375 (19 x 125), 1197 (19 x 63), and 912 (19 x 48), respectively.

Summary & Conclusions (cont'd):

(39) Chapter 13 is prefixed with the four initials "A.L.M.R." and contains a total of 1482 of these letters (19 x 78). (40) Chapter 7 is initialed with the four letters "A.L.M.S." and the frequency of occurrence of these four letters in this chapter is 5320, or 19 x 280. (41) The number of Quranic initials is 14, and the alphabet letters which participate in making these initials are also 14, and the number of initialed chapters is 29. When we add these numbers, 14+14+29, we find the total 57, or 19 x 3. (42) The Quranic initials are described as "Miracle of the Quran" (see Page 240 [of the book "Quran: Visual Presentation of the Miracle"]). (43) The common denominator throughout Quran is the number [19], and this is the numerical value of the Arabic word..Waahid." Thus, this miracle emphasizes the theme of Quran and its basic message: "G*D IS ONE."

CONCLUSION:

The physical evidence presented here proves: (1) The divine source of Quran. (2) The perfect integrity and preservation of Quran.

QURAN: ONLY SOURCE OF GUIDANCE (6:19)

Accepting any other sources of guidance constitutes the setting up of other gods beside G*d; IDOLWORSHIP.

THIS IMPORTANT STATEMENT HAPPENS TO BE No. 19 :



"Say (O Muhammad), 'Whose testimony is greater?' Say, 'God is my witness that THIS QURAN was given to me to preach it to you, and whomever it reaches.' Yet, you bear witness that there are other gods beside God (by upholding other sources beside Quran). Say, 'I do not bear such witness.' Say, 'There is only ONE GOD, and I disown your idolworship.'" (6:19)

This crucial verse happens to be No. 19

WE LEFT NOTHING OUT OF THIS BOOK (QURAN) (6:38)

* The Arabic text of this verse consists of 19 letters.

* The number of this verse is 38; or 19 x 2.

[ The Arabic letters of this statement are shown, each with a consecutive number under it to demonstrate that it is indeed 19 Arabic letters.]



GOD REVEALED THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED (6:114)

* The Arabic text of this verse consists of 19 letters.

* The number of this verse is 114; or 19 x 6.


THE WORD OF YOUR LORD (THIS QURAN) IS

COMPLETE, IN TRUTH AND JUSTICE (6:115).


This statement consists of 19 letters in the Arabic text.


MUHAMMAD FORBIDDEN FROM ANTICIPATING QURAN

The Prophet Muhammad received an order from God enjoining him from uttering Quranic material without authorization, and ordering him to adhere strictly to Quran and follow it, once it is revealed.

This verse is No. 114, in Chapter 20.

114 = 19 x 6



Could it be coincidental that the number of this verse is the same as the total number of suras in Quran?

G*d and His messenger want us to uphold Quran, the whole Quran, and nothing but Quran.

MUHAMMAD FORBIDDEN FROM EXPLAINING QURAN

There are those who claim that Quran is too difficult to understand, and that "Hadith & Sunna" are needed to explain Quran. First of all, one look at Quran and "Hadith" convinces the reader that the opposite is true. Because the fabricators of "Hadith" belonged to various tribes and even countries, with various dialects, slangs, and accents, the language of "Hadith" is in fact extremely difficult.



"Do not move your tongue (O Muhammad) to hasten the revelation of Quran. It is we who will put it together as a Quran. Once we reveal it, YOU SHALL FOLLOW IT. Then, it is we who will explain it." (75:1619)

The verse stating that God is the one who explains Quran happens to be verse No. 19.

QURAN CONTAINS ALL THE EXAMPLES WE NEED

There are four scattered verses stating generally that Quran contains all the examples, allegories, or similitudes that we need. These verses are 17:89, 18:54, 30:58, & 39:27. By adding the verse numbers of these four crucial verses, the total is 228, or 19 x 12.

89 + 54 + 58 + 27 = 228 = 19 x 12.




"We have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples, but most people insist upon disbelieving. (17:89)



We have cited in this Quran every kind of example, but the human being is the most argumentative creature. (18:54)

"Thus, we have cited for the people in this Quran all kinds of examples. Yet, no matter what kind of proof you present to the disbelievers, they say, 'You are falsifiers.'" (30:58)

"G*d thus seals the hearts of those who do not know." (30:59)



"We have cited for the people every kind of example in this Quran, that they may take heed." (39:27)

"An Arabic Quran, without any ambiguity, that they may be righteous." (39:28)

"G*d cites the example of a man who deals with disputing partners (Hadith), compared to a man who deals with only one consistent source (Quran). Are they the same? Praise be to G*d; most of them do not know." (39:29)

"You (Muhammad) will surely die, just like they will die. " (39:30)

"On the Day of Resurrection, before your Lord, you people will feud with one another. " (39:31)

"Who is more evil than one who attributes lies to G*d, while disbelieving in the truth that has come to him? Is Hell not a just requital for the disbelievers? " (39:32)



The verse numbers of the four verses are 89, 54, 58, and 27.

89 + 54 + 58 + 27 = 228

228 = 19 x 12

The verses shown above further state that Muhammad is a human being who dies like the rest of us, and that we shall follow ONE SOURCE of law, rather than a number of contradicting sources. The ONE SOURCE is identified in verse 28 above as QURAN.

HADITH: WHERE THEY FIND ANYTHING THEY WISH

Finally, here is a piece of PHYSICAL EVIDENCE informing us that the believers can be distinguished by the fact that they follow THE ONE CONSISTENT SOURCE (Quran), while the disbelievers follow "a book wherein they find anything they want." It is well known that we can find anything we want in the books of "Hadith."

The statement, in the form of a question to the disbelievers, says, "DO YOU FOLLOW A BOOK WHEREIN YOU FIND ANYTHING YOU WANT?"

This important statement happens to be No. 38

38 = 19 x 2

"Shall we treat the Muslims like the criminals? What is wrong with your judgment? DO YOU FOLLOW A BOOK WHEREIN YOU FIND ANYTHING YOU WANT?" (68:3538)

G*D CALLS QURAN: COMPLETE (6:115)

G*D CALLS QURAN: FULLY DETAILED (6:114)

G*D CALLS QURAN: PERFECT (6:38)

THE PROPHET DELIVERS QURAN ALONE (69:4047)

HADITH & SUNNA ARE BLASPHEMOUS INNOVATIONS (6:112 & 25:31)

YOU SHALL UPHOLD QURAN ALONE (6:19; 7:3; etc.)


G*D PROVIDED EVEN PHYSICAL EVIDENCE (see Pages 6472)

Why then do they fail to see all this???!!!

WHY DO THEY FAIL TO BELIEVE G*D?

Because their hearts inside are denying what they utter with their mouths. They confess belief due to social and educational circumstances, but their hearts inside are denying:

"Your god is ONE G*D. However, those who do not believe in the hereafter, their hearts are denying, and they are too arrogant." (16:22)

The consequence of this denying (one's deep convictions are denying) is total isolation from Quran:

"When you read Quran, we place between you and those who do not believe in the hereafter AN INVISIBLE BARRIER. And we place shields on their hearts to prevent them from understanding it, and deafness in their ears; and when you preach your Lord (ALONE) in the QURAN ALONE they run away in aversion." (17:4546)

Therefore, they cannot accept QURAN ALONE; they look for other sources such as "Hadith & Sunna."



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GUARANTEED VICTORY


The Quran teaches, unequivocally, that victory is G U A R A N T E E D for the Muslims:

"We have decreed that the believers will be victorious." (30:47)

"We will positively grant victory to our messengers, and to those who believe, both in this live and on the day of resurrection." (40:51)

"G*d will support with victory those who support Him. God is powerful, Almighty." (22:40)

"G*d will surely defend those who believe. G*d does not like any betrayer, disbeliever." (22:38)

"O you who believe, if you support G*d, He will grant you victory, and strengthen your foothold." (47:7)


WHY THEN ARE THE MUSLIMS DEFEATED ?

In view of the guarantees shown on the previous page, and since God is never wrong, the "Muslims" of today could not possibly be Muslims.



HISTORICAL FACTS

For as long as the Muslim Ummah upheld Quran, and nothing but Quran, the Muslims led the world scientifically, technologically, culturally, socially, militarily, and economically. They never lost a single battle. The borders of Islam extended from West Africa to China; into Southern France and Eastern Germany.

With the appearance of Hadith & Sunna at the beginning of the third century AH, a progressive deterioration of the Muslim Ummah began. Since the appearance of these innovations as sources of guidance beside the Quran, the "Muslims" never won a single battle.

Why do 4,5 million Israelis consistently defeat 150 million Arabs???


Why does India consistently defeat Pakistan? Why does small Israel...

WHY THEN ARE THE "MUSLIMS" DEFEATED?

BECAUSE they refuse to believe God in His repeated statements that Quran is COMPLETE, PERFECT, FULLY DETAILED, and SHALL BE THE ONLY SOURCE OF RELIGIOUS GUIDANCE.

Because they have accepted other sources, namely, Hadith and Sunna, beside Quran.

"Whoever disregards My message (Quran) shall have a miserable life, then we will resurrect him, on the Day of Resurrection, blind. He will say, 'My Lord, why did You resurrect me blind, when I used to be a seer (in the first life)?' (God will say), 'This is because Our revelations came to you, but your forgot them, and consequently, today we forget you.' We thus punish those who exceed the limits and refuse to believe the verses of their Lord. And surely, the retribution in the Hereafter is far worse, and everlasting." (20:124127)



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HADITH CAUSED DEVIATION FROM QURAN!


(1) IS THIS HOW YOU DO YOUR ABLUTION (WUDU)?

Although G*d's orders are clear and simple in Quran about the observance of ablution, the "Muslim" masses follow another god beside G*d; they do not do the ablution as prescribed by G*d. The ultimate result: humiliation & defeat.

"O you who believe, when you get up to perform the Salat prayers you shall wash your faces, your hands up to the elbows, wipe your heads, and wash your feet." (5:6)

The "Muslim" masses today refuse to be satisfied with the commandments of God. They uphold commandments of men, such as the various "imams" and "scholars." As a result, they have a prolonged ablution that depends on which "sect" they follow. All sects resulted from the various "imams" opinions as to how the Prophet is supposed to have done his ablution. Thus, they fell in Satan's trap, disobeyed their Creator, and incurred misery and defeat.

HADITH CAUSED DEVIATION FROM QURAN!

(2) IS THIS HOW YOU DO YOUR SALAT PRAYERS?

"When you observe your Salat prayers, your voice shall not be too loud, nor too low; you shall maintain an intermediate tone." (17:110)

Despite these straightforward instructions from G*d, the "Muslim" masses were diverted by Hadith; they maintain total silence during the noon prayer, the afternoon prayer, the third unit of the sunset prayer, and the second half of the night prayer. WHERE DID THEY GET THESE INSTRUCTIONS? From another g*d beside G*d; from other sources beside Quran.

Thus, they fell en masse in Satan's traps, and disobeyed their Creator, whose word (Quran) is complete, perfect, and fully detailed (6:19, 38, & 114).

HADITH CAUSED DEVIATION FROM QURAN

(3) Do you mention other names beside G*d's in Salat?

It is G*d's commandment that we shall not mention any names in our Salat prayers, beside the name of God (72:18).


But the Muslim masses today follow the innovations that dictate upon them the praising and glorifying of Muhammad and Abraham, while praying to their Lord.

"The mosques belong to G*d; therefore, do not mention any other names beside the name of G*d." (72:18)

WHAT IS MORE CLEAR THAN THAT?


The "Muslims" have been duped by Satan into uttering the innovation known as "Tashahhud" where they shower praises and glorifications on Muhammad and Abraham.

It should be noted that even the sources of Hadith & Sunna recognize "Tashahhud" as an innovation which is not part of the Salat prayers!

IS THIS NOT FLAGRANT IDOLWORSHIP???

HADITH & SUNNA vs G*D'S LAW

After stating that the law against adultery is "perfectly clear," the Quranic commandment orders us to punish the adulterers by whipping them one hundred lashes.

Did the Muslims follow and obey their Creator? NO.

The Muslim "scholars" declared that the Quranic law is not clear !!! They claimed that the adulterers are not defined in Quran with regard to their marital status, and that they need Hadith to clarify Quran !!!

"This Sura we send down, and decree as law, and send down in it verses that are perfectly clear, that you may take heed. The adulteress and adulterer, you shall whip each of them a hundred lashes, and do not be deterred by kindness from carrying out G*d's law, if you truly believe in G*d and the Last Day. Let a group of believers witness their punishment." (24:12)

Overcome by tradition, and Satan's influence, the "Muslim" scholars instituted "stoning to death" as the punishment for married adulterers !!!

OBEY G*D AND OBEY THE MESSENGER

Satan succeeded in duping millions of Muslims into believing that obeying G*d means obeying the Quran, while obeying the messenger means obeying Hadith.

What helped in popularizing this Satanic trick was the general ignorance of Quran among the Muslim masses, and their failure to heed the divine commandments that Quran shall be the ONLY SOURCE of jurisprudence and/or religious guidance.

Only a little thinking leads us to realize that Quran came to us through Muhammad's mouth, and DID NOT COME TO US FROM GOD DIRECTLY. Hence the commandment that we shall obey the messenger...for he utters the words of God.

All previous scriptures have stated the same Quranic truth that: "Whoever obeys the messenger is obeying God." Since the messenger obviously is not God, the commandment clearly means obeying the words of God uttered by the messenger.
The knowledgeable and fortunate believers, therefore, realize that Hadith & Sunna are Satanic fabrications aimed at diverting people from the path of G*d.

MUHAMMAD'S HADITHS ARE NOT MUHAMMAD'S

Instead, they are the Hadiths (narrations) of men and women who never saw the Prophet; in fact, the grandparents of their grandparents never saw the Prophet.

It is well known that the first book of Hadith is that of Bukhary, who was born more than 200 years after the death of Muhammad. When Bukhary wrote his book of Hadiths, he used to visit the people whom he knew as sources. After verifying that his source is "truthful," and known as a man or woman of righteousness, Bukhary would ask,"Do you know a Hadith?"The person would answer, "Yes," then proceed to narrate the "Hadith" as follows: "I heard my father, may G*d bless his soul, say that he heard his older brother, may G*d bless his soul, say that he was sitting with his grandmother, may G*d bless her soul, and she told him that she was having dinner one day with her great uncle, may G*d bless his soul, when he stated that his maternal grandfather knew Imam Ahmad ibn Muhammad alAmawy, who mentioned that his grandfather heard from his oldest uncle that he met the great companion of the Prophet Omar ibn Khaled AlYamany, and he told him that the Prophet, peace be upon him, said, '......'"

Thus, the Hadith is simply a narration by Bukhary's source, claiming that he or she heard something about the Prophet across eight generations of the dead.

On the other hand, we now possess irrefutable physical evidence that Quran is the infallible word of G*d, and that it was uttered by the Prophet Muhammad. Therefore, we obey the messenger by obeying Quran; nothing but Quran.

OBEYING HADITH IS NOT OBEYING THE MESSENGER

Instead, it is obedience to the men and women who narrated the "Hadiths."

Obeying the socalled "Hadith of the Prophet," is in fact obeying a group of simpleminded people who thought that the Prophet had said something more than 200 years before they were born.

Thus, if the narrator of a given Hadith is for example a Abbas ibn Yasser, then obeying the Hadith narrated by Abbas ibn Yasser is in fact obeying Abbas ibn Yasser, and has nothing to do with obeying the Prophet.

The true obedience of the Prophet Muhammad is only by obeying Quran, which was indeed uttered by Muhammad, and is supported by indisputable PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

These facts explain the Quran's repeated statements that "Only those with intelligence take heed."
The Quran was delivered to us through Muhammad's mouth, without any mediators or narrators. The Quran came through Muhammad's mouth, directly to the ears of the revelation writers who scrupulously wrote it down the moment it was uttered.

Thus, Quran is the only true Hadith of Muhammad. Furthermore, the Almighty has guaranteed the eternal preservation of His words, as uttered by Muhammad (15:9).



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THE GREAT DISASTER


"(On the day of judgment) the disbelievers will be told, 'G*d's abhorrence towards you is far worse than your own abhorrence towards yourselves, for you were invited to the faith but refused.' They will say, 'Our Lord, You gave us two deaths and two lives, and now we confess our sins; IS THERE ANYWAY OUT?' That is because when G*D ALONE was advocated, you refused to believe. But when idols were advocated along with Him, you believed. Therefore, judgment now belongs with G*d, the most high, the great." (40:1012)

When G*D ALONE is advocated, do you believe? OR Do you have to have others advocated along with Him?

THE GREAT DISASTER

"When their messengers went to them with clear evidence, they were satisfied with the knowledge they already had, and the very thing they ridiculed caused their doom. Then, when they say our retribution, they said, 'NOW WE BELIEVE IN GOD ALONE AND WE REJECT OUR PREVIOUS IDOLATRY.' But alas, their belief is useless to them after they see the retribution. Such is God's law which is never changeable; such disbelievers are doomed." (40:835)

Are you happy and satisfied with the knowledge you inherited from your parents, elders or scholars? (Hadith & Sunna)

Are you willing to give up such knowledge, in favor of G*d's teachings? OR, will it be too late for you?



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THE GREAT CRITERION




"When G*d ALONE is advocated, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink with aversion. But when idols are mentioned besides Him, they rejoice "(39:45).



CLARIFICATION:

WHY ARE WE HERE?

The whole matter of Quran vs Hadith & Sunna becomes clear once we understand the purpose of our existence.

We exist in this world for one, and only one, purpose. As stated in Quran (67:12 & 51:56) we were created for the sole purpose of worshiping G*D ALONE.

Satan wanted to be a partner with G*d; a god beside G*d. Consequently, G*d created Adam to expose Satan's rebellious ideas. And G*d created us to show Satan, and all the angels that we can worship Him ALONE, without need for any partners.

The purpose of our existence, therefore, is to worship G*D ALONE. This is why the only unforgivable offense is idolworship. That is because once we idolize anyone, or anything, beside G*d, we fail the test.



We fulfill the purpose of our existence only if we succeed in worshiping G*D ALONE, without idolizing Muhammad, or Jesus, or Mary, or any saint, or any imam, or anyone, or anything.



When we seek "religious" instructions from Muhammad, or any other source beside G*d, we support Satan in his claim that God needs a partner. Therefore, those who worship G*d ALONE follow the instructions and teachings of G*D ALONE. As shown throughout this book, G*d's teachings are complete, perfect, and fully detailed in Quran.

FINALLY: MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION

In your mind, can G*d survive ALONE???

Or, does G*d need Muhammad, in your mind, in order to be commemorated and worshiped???

In your mind, can G*D ALONE survive?

Or, does G*d need a partner, in your mind, such as Muhammad, Jesus, Mary, or some saint(s)???

Would you be perfectly happy and content if you knew about G*D ALONE, without Muhammad, Jesus, Mary, or any saint, or anyone, or anything?

Are you annoyed by talking about G*D ALONE?

When I keep talking about G*D ALONE, does this annoy you? Do you have to hear other names along with G*d? Can G*D ALONE survive in your mind?

When I repeat, and repeat, my talk about G*D ALONE, do you feel any repulsion? Or, are you happy and content with the talk about G*D ALONE???

Based on the Great Quranic criterion, as stated in 39:45, your answers to these questions provide the key to knowing yourself, and your destiny.


Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 6:21pm

Asalaamu alaikum  to my brethren, and greetings to Dalandau;

Dalandau: Let me tell you the reality. You may cut and paste all you wish, and itellectualize and debate all you wish, You still are not dealing with the issues Here and NOW and the reality as it exists.

"Who is more wicked than one who is reminded of the verses of his Lord, then disregards them, while unaware of his sin? Consequently, we place shields on their hearts, to prevent them from understanding (Quran), and deafness in their ears. Thus, if you invite them to the guidance, they can never ever be guided." (18:57)

One thing you need to know about many Muslims, we regard misquoting the Talmud, the Injeel or the Qur'an much in the same manner as you do Typing the complete word GOD and consider it to be a near blasphemy to quote it out of context or meaning. I feel you may be doing this here. You also are posting with a very angry attitude and are insistent upon us converting to your point of view. That is not the intent of this forum. We are here for dialogue and open minded debate, not for the forcing of ideologies down others throats.

You did not like my posts regarding the internet trolls..Well you are displaying some of the traits that are mentioned in this internet article and I was hoping that you would read it with a complentative attitude and attempt to reform your views. Our brother moderators have been very patient with all of us and I apologize for spamming the internet troll information but I am hoping you will reread it and continue with your debate in a more interactive manner.

Peace to all:

Maryah

 



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 6:45pm
The only way to peace is to read the books and understand that we have to unite each with its own rites as it is from g*d we follow different rituals as i posted before!!!


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 6:47pm

Is saying that the qu'ran is for peace misquoting?

I am not saying lies and bad things about the Qu'ran like alot of people here do about the Talmud!!!!



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:39pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

Is saying that the qu'ran is for peace misquoting?

I am not saying lies and bad things about the Qu'ran like alot of people here do about the Talmud!!!!

Shalom:

Do you know the meaning of the word blasphemy?

That is what it is likened to when you use the words of any holy books out of context to a muslim.

State arguements on your own merits. Muslims are often blunt and to the point in arguements, we do not sugarcoat things.

You honour God by refusing to completely quote or write HIS name or speak it for fear of offence or defiling his honor.

We feel that about holy books.

He is Allah, subanallah wa tala, there is NO other as Him.

He alone do we worship...we do not worship anything that is created or of creation. try Exodus 20

The decree known to the Christian world as the Ten commandments.

What does it say in the Talmudic version, I find it interesting!

BTW if the talmud is the writings and practices of your people, that is what our hadith and sunnah are to us..

You can relate to that?



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:45pm

We never put talmud above Torah

nothing in talmud contradicts torah

talmud is something different than torah talmud is civil law

and dont take your info of talmud from nazi sites i will prove that they are all lies and there are many lies around!

 

 



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:47pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

We never put talmud above Torah

nothing in talmud contradicts torah

talmud is something different than torah talmud is civil law

and dont take your info of talmud from nazi sites i will prove that they are all lies and there are many lies around!

 

 

Why do you come across to me as nasty and narrow viewed, am I talking to a child?

Why are you so defensive?

Do I know you from another name that you used here?

Are you Salman?



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:50pm

because +6000000 of my people have died because of those lies!!

Only this last century



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:51pm

Why do Jews write G-d with a dash ?

It is forbidden to erase or deface the name of G-d, and this prohibition applies to all languages. We, therefore, insert a dash in middle of G-d's name, allowing us to erase or discard the paper it is written on if necessary.


In prayer books and holy writings G-d's name is written properly, for there is no fear that one will discard a holy text.


[Although "G-d" is not His name, it certainly is a word which is reserved for Him alone (as opposed to "Creator" or "the benevolent one" which can be used in other contexts as well). We show respect to G-d by not defacing or discarding a word which is designated for Him.]



Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:53pm

never been on this forum before



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:53pm
Who are your people, and why are you attacking Muslim Americans?

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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:55pm

am i attacking?

My people are Israelites(modern name: Jews)



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:57pm

Please, I am talking to you, explain things in your own words. You copied and pasted that information on the reason why you insert the dash. Thank you for the information.

Yes you are attacking, and I really dont think you are that way.



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:59pm
why should i write and have the probability of making mistakes?


Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 9:59pm
Israel and Ismail are brothers.

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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:01pm

Slow down and present one subject at a time, that way people will not tear apart your posts.



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:02pm

correction:no Jacob is israel

Ishmael and Isaac(laughfd) are brothers

 



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:03pm

Muslims take offence when a person comes in here and starts "yelling" at them with anger and telling them their aquaintances that we have no valid points.

You have a right to the Talmud, as we have a right to our hadith and sunnah. I am a woman by the way.

Read the blue illustration below my post and you will know my message.



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:05pm

can i postsomething that will show you i want to help islam(submission)?

named:Islam has been hijacked by colonial europe

Ps:its quite long but very interesting



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:05pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

correction:no Jacob is israel

Ishmael and Isaac(laughfd) are brothers

 

It is in the context that our religions are brothers: We worship the one true G-d and no other. Our religions both claim descent from Descendants of Abraham.



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:08pm

Alot of muslims today dont think that jews are bnai israel!!!

 

My message is coexistance too we should unite those both faiths!!



Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:09pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

can i postsomething that will show you i want to help islam(submission)?

named:Islam has been hijacked by colonial europe

Ps:its quite long but very interesting

It would be interesting, but let me tell you, I am a Muslim of the world Ummah and my citizenship is that of the Ummah, not the physical requirements.



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:09pm
and get out of pagan influence that is trying to destroy us!!!


Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:12pm
Originally posted by Dalandau

Alot of muslims today dont think that jews are bnai israel!!!

 

My message is coexistance too we should unite those both faiths!!

Brother, only G-d on the last day can unite and will unite the faiths. We are all waiting for His will to be revealed. We cannot even conceive of the greatess or unlimted majesty of G-d!



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"Every good deed is charity whether you come to your brother's assistance or just greet him with a smile.


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:14pm

Dalandau

You are ignoring warnings from the moderators. Stop using bold/large fonts. Stop dumping such long posts which no one has time to read. Stop spamming. And stop interpreting the quran about which you obviously seem to have no knowledge about.

This is your last and final warning.



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:29pm
i asked permission!!!!!!!


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:30pm
and who says the final days have not come?


Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:31pm

Are you talking to yourself?

 



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Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:32pm

for the full information

****I told you , you will not be allowed to spread such lies about Islam, please do not post links to such misleading sites****



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Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:33pm
no i was talking to maryah


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:34pm
instead of censuring messages of peace you should censor all those hate speaches that are on the site!!!!!!!!


Posted By: Dalandau
Date Posted: 19 February 2007 at 10:39pm

"Have you considered? If it be from God, and you disbelieve in it, and a witness from among the Children of Israel bears witness to its like, and believes, and you wax proud -- God guides not the people of the evildoers" [Qur'an, "Sand Dunes", chapter 46:8,9].



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