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Riba

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Printed Date: 30 September 2014 at 11:39pm


Topic: Riba
Posted By: B.H.
Subject: Riba
Date Posted: 31 July 2006 at 6:37pm

Hello,

How can a bank operate without charging interest on loans?




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Posted By: Knowledge01
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by B.H.

Hello,


How can a bank operate without charging interest on loans?



By the bank owners and employees caring about the people. By the bank owners and operators following the guidelines sent to us by Allah.

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Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 6:30pm
Knowledge what are the guidelines regarding interest loans


Posted By: B.H.
Date Posted: 02 August 2006 at 8:38pm

I am sure it would work if the state owned the banks and set up the initial funds with tax dollars.

Also, larger deposits could be taken and a certain amount used in investment schemes that pay a dividend.



Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 4:26am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

though you posted it in the brother section, hope you dont mind me replying to this.

Here is a link which might be helpful. http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/economics/islamic_banking.html - http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/economics/islamic_banking.html

Wassalam



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Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL


Posted By: Knowledge01
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 6:31am
Originally posted by Israfil

Knowledge what are the guidelines regarding interest loans


It is haram to deal with riba in any way. That means that if you take out a loan and they say if you don't pay it back by a certain time, there will be interest, it is then haram for you because you could die and that debt will be your family's responsibility and they will have to deal with riba. Both you and your family will then be in the wrong and will have to answer to Allah for that on Yomo Qiyamma.

We must stay away from the forbidden and anything unclear.

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Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 11:12am
I see


Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 03 August 2006 at 1:08pm

Question,

Would Islamic Banks deal with Non-Believers?  Would you be required to be Muslim to open an account with them?

 



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Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 4:40am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

Hi angela, yeah islamic banks are for every1 but their dealings are going to be slightly different as you are not going to get a fixed rate of interest. Rather it is dependent opon success or profit of businesses your money is being spent on.

Wassalam



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Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL


Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 04 August 2006 at 9:42am

Well, I wasn't worried about interest.  I never carry enough in my bank accounts to collect interest.  Our savings/Retirement comes from IRAs, 401Ks and other investments. 

I was more looking at the other aspects of banking.  Car loans, Mortgages and such. 

How to Islamic banks differ on these products?  If you cannot charge interest, how do you keep in business when providing a mortgage?



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Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 05 August 2006 at 10:25am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

For starters islamic mortgages and loans might come bit expensive than others. There are two ways of mortgages that i know of, in both cases banks buy the property as a first buyer and you buy it of them. In first case, they fix the time schedule with you and then assess about how much of a difference is it going to make to the value of property in that time. Say they think it might go up by 20grands in 10 years so it is a fixed price they are selling at. Now if you cant buy it off in that time, they cant change the price, i think they charge you rent or something for extra time.

In second case, you rent it off the bank and same time pay them isntallments of the house of original price. Although in both cases they buy the house for you but in second case you are taking money as a loan and repaying them that. So with time they transfer the house with time like if you have a contract of 20 years, each year you can have five percent transfered and get a reduction of five percent. This is quite complicated and i am sorry if its not explained properly.

I am not aware about buying a car or some thing similar but i know that when it is money, they take it like this much money is going to buy this much gold (i mean something which dont loose its value with time). Then when you returning it, you return the money of that particular weight of gold.

Hope it answers you query.

wassalam



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Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL



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