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?’s on Salaat , Wodoo & Azaan

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Topic: ?’s on Salaat , Wodoo & Azaan
Posted By: Srya
Subject: ?’s on Salaat , Wodoo & Azaan
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 12:16am

Salem,

If one is able to perform Salaat correctly but because of privacy and modesty concerns is it okay to perform it in the car sitting down; since there is no other alternative to making Salaat on time?

If one of the five Salaat's are missed should the missed Salaat be made up first or should we perform whatever the current Salaat is then go back and makeup the missed one next?

If one breaks Wodoo before putting on his socks and no Salaat has been performed yet, then puts his socks on (has not performed his Salaat) and then later performs Wodoo again to makeup for the missed Salaat does one need to take the socks off or is it still okay to wipe over them even though when one at first had not even performed Salaat with the initial Wodoo? I hope I didn't loose you on that one *lol*

Does one always need to say Azaan before performing Salaat? If yes should it always be out loud? I was at the mosque today and I heard a man (past the salaat time) announce and he was the only one there. What about for females? Should we also say it out loud?




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Posted By: Abeer23
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 2:14am
Originally posted by Suzanne

If one is able to perform Salaat correctly but because of privacy and modesty concerns is it okay to perform it in the car sitting down; since there is no other alternative to making Salaat on time?

By "privacy and modesty" do you mean you'll have to bend over in front of men??  Personally, if I'm in a public place (say a park for example) where there are men and there's no place i can postrate, I'll pray sitting.   However, at work i just aked my boss to let me use his office.  I locked the door, prayed, and said thanks with a big smile on my out.    At my university, we had a women's lounge so I prayed in their.  Ladies would watch.  Some would ask me what I was doing afterwards.  It was great da'wa.

If one of the five Salaat's are missed should the missed Salaat be made up first or should we perform whatever the current Salaat is then go back and makeup the missed one next?

I was taught to first pray the current salat, then make up the missed one.

If one breaks Wodoo before putting on his socks and no Salaat has been performed yet, then puts his socks on (has not performed his Salaat) and then later performs Wodoo again to makeup for the missed Salaat does one need to take the socks off or is it still okay to wipe over them even though when one at first had not even performed Salaat with the initial Wodoo? I hope I didn't loose you on that one *lol*

I never make mas'h over socks.  I'm just not comfortable with it, personally.  However,  I was taught that the socks have to have been put on while in a state of purity.  Here goes some hadith:

Said al-Mughirah ibn Shu'bah, "I was with the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, one night during an expedition. I poured water for him to make ablution. He washed his face and arms and wiped his head. Then I went to remove his socks and he said, 'Leave them on, as I put them on while I was in a state of purity,' and he just wiped over them." (Related by Ahmad, al-Bukhari and Muslim).

Al-Humaidi related in his Musnad that al-Mughirah reported, "We said, 'O Messenger of Allah, may we wipe over our socks?' He said, 'Yes, if you put them on while you were in a state of purity."

The stipulations by the jurists that the socks must completely cover the foot to the ankle, and that one must be able to walk (a distance) in them alone, has been shown by Ibn Taimiyyah in his al-Fatawa to be weak.

Does one always need to say Azaan before performing Salaat? If yes should it always be out loud? I was at the mosque today and I heard a man (past the salaat time) announce and he was the only one there. What about for females? Should we also say it out loud?

I never do it myself.  There's nothing wrong with it if you want to, but it's not an obligation.   Here goes a hadith for you:

Said Ibn 'Umar, "There is no azhan or iqamah for women." (Related by al-Baihaqi with a sahih chain.)

This was the opinion of Anas, al-Hassan, Ibn Sireen, an-Nakha'i, al-Thauri, Malik, Abu Thaur and the people of "juristic reasoning." Ash-Shaifi, Ishaq and Ahmad said if they make the iqamah and azhan, there is no problem. It is related from 'Aishah that she would make the azhan and iqamah and lead the women in prayer, standing in the middle of the row. (Related by al-Baihaqi.)

Hope this helps in sha allah



Posted By: herjihad
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 6:27am

Bismillah,

There are different schools of thought, so people would answer your questions based on which one if any that they belong to.

It's fine to pray sitting.  It's fine to wipe over your sock for abulution, especially if you are not at home.

I make adhan before I pray.  Many people think that women should never say our prayers out loud, so they would answer differently.  Three prayers can be said aloud:  Fajr, Magrib and Ayeesha (The first two segments or rukutayn).  So at least if you are going to say those aloud, you could be consistent by saying the adhan aloud.  Even the people who say that we can pray aloud say that prayers are fine prayed quietly also.

Peace



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.


Posted By: Srya
Date Posted: 29 April 2006 at 6:35am

Salem,

Thanks for your time and help!



Posted By: Abeer23
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 12:34am

Allah ybarik feeke Suzanne



Posted By: fatima
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 7:51am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaikum

alhamdulillahe mashaAllah sisters already have answered u in detail, just one little thing, that if u r regular in salah n then u miss one, its best to perform qadha first n then the salah of that particular time, giving u have enuf time for both

wassalam



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Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL


Posted By: Srya
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 1:35pm

Salem,

Please excuse me for my ignorance but I do not know what qadha means.  Could you please explain?



Posted By: peacemaker
Date Posted: 30 April 2006 at 8:58pm

Assalamu Alaikum!

qadha means missed prayers. 

Peace



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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13


Posted By: Abeer23
Date Posted: 03 May 2006 at 12:54am

Jazakilahu khairan sis. Fatimah.   I had forgotten that detail.

Salaam



Posted By: amah
Date Posted: 04 May 2006 at 3:25am
Jazakallahukhair to all sisters for their answers, I would just like to add some info about wiping over socks...

Four conditions apply to wiping over the socks. 

The first condition:

That they should have been put on when one was in a state of tahaarah (purity, i.e., when one has wudoo’). The evidence for that is what the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to al-Mugheerah ibn Shu’bah: “Don’t worry, because I put them one when I was clean.” 

The second condition:

That the khufoof (leather slippers which cover the ankle) or socks should be taahir (pure). If they are naajis (impure) then it is not permissible to wipe over them. The daleel for that is that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) led his companions in prayer one day wearing shoes, which he took off whilst he was praying. He said that Jibreel had told him that there was something dirty on them. This was narrated by Ahmad from the hadeeth of Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) in his Musnad. This indicates that it is not permissible to pray wearing anything that is naajis, because if the naajis thing is wiped over, the person will be contaminated by that najaasah (impurity), so he cannot be considered to be taahir (pure). 

The third condition:

They may be wiped over when one is purifying oneself from minor impurity (i.e., doing wudoo’ after passing wind, urine or stools), not when one is in a state of janaabah (major impurity following sexual activity) or when ghusl is required. The evidence for that is the hadeeth of Safwaan ibn ‘Assaal (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: “The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded us, when we were travelling, not to remove our khufoof for three days and three nights, except in the case of janaabah. But we could keep them on and wipe over them in the case of stools, urine and sleeping.” This was narrated by Ahmad from the hadeeth of Safwaan ibn ‘Assaal (may Allaah be pleased with him) in his Musnad. So the condition is that wiping the socks may be done when purifying oneself (doing wudoo’) from minor impurity, and it is not permissible in the case of major impurity, because of the hadeeth which we have mentioned here. 

The fourth condition:

That the wiping may be done within the time specified by sharee’ah, which is one day and one night in the case of one who is not travelling, and three days and three nights in the case of one who is travelling. This is because of the hadeeth of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: “The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stated one day and one night for the one who is not travelling, and three days and three nights for the one who is travelling, i.e., for wiping over the khufoof.” This was narrated by Muslim. This period starts from the first time one wipes over the socks when doing wudoo’ after some minor impurity, and it ends twenty-four later for the one who is not travelling, and seventy-two hours later for the one who is travelling. So if we assume that a person purifies himself for Fajr prayer on Tuesday and remains taahir (pure, i.e., keeps his wudoo’) until ‘Isha prayer on Tuesday evening, then he sleeps and wakes up to pray Fajr on Wednesday, and he wipes his socks at five o’clock zawaali time , then the period begins from 5 a.m. on Wednesday and lasts until 5 a.m. on Thursday. If we assume that he wiped his socks before 5 a.m then he can pray Fajr on Thursday with this wiping and pray as much as he wants as long as he remains taahir, because according to the most correct scholarly opinion, wudoo’ is not broken when the time period for wiping over the socks expires. That is because the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not set a time limit for tahaarah, rather he set a time limit for wiping over the socks. Once that time limit expires, one cannot wipe over the socks again, but if a person remains in a state of tahaarah then his tahaarah is still valid, because this is what is implied by the shar’i evidence, and whatever is proven by shar’i evidence cannot be invalidated unless there is further shar’i evidence to that effect. There is no evidence to suggest that wudoo’ is broken when the time limit for wiping over the socks expires, because what the basic principle is that he remains as he is (i.e., taahir) until it becomes apparent that this is no longer the case.  

These are the conditions which apply to wiping over the khufoof.

Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen, p. 14 (www.islam-qa.com)

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Allah is Sufficient as a Walee (Protector) and Allah is Sufficient as a Naseer (Helper).
(Surah An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #45)



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