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Religion Vs Secularism

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Topic: Religion Vs Secularism
Posted By: Rehmat
Subject: Religion Vs Secularism
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 11:07am

The people within Christianity and Judaism who turned away from God as the ‘law-maker’ have devised and rationalized secularism. The temporal is contrasted with the eternal and by implication, the wordily with the religion. Secularism denotes a turning away from an other-worldliness to a worldliness that only values materialistic human achievements.

 

This development took place in the western world during the so-called ‘Renaissance’ in medieval European history, when new learning and scientific discoveries from much civilized Muslim countries tempted European to break from Scriptural guidance and confidence in God the Creator. Secularism took another significant step in 18th century, with the so-called ‘Enlightenment’, when European political theory stressed the potential power of human beings to govern themselves in contrast with the religious theory of necessity of divine guidance.

 

The have been called upon to take Allah’s Scripture as their legal system….Holy Qur’an. But the Judeo-Christian West deviated from that along the lines of secularism, agnosticism, humanism and atheism.

 

However, the result of such man-made dogma was nothing but one major atrocity after another at the hands of a few ‘Godless chosen ones’. Between two World Wars and the Jewish Communist Revolution in Russia – over 250 million innocent people perished.

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Posted By: tawhid
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 12:14pm
Originally posted by Rehmat

The people within Christianity and Judaism who turned away from God as the ‘law-maker’ have devised and rationalized secularism. The temporal is contrasted with the eternal and by implication, the wordily with the religion. Secularism denotes a turning away from an other-worldliness to a worldliness that only values materialistic human achievements.

 

This development took place in the western world during the so-called ‘Renaissance’ in medieval European history, when new learning and scientific discoveries from much civilized Muslim countries tempted European to break from Scriptural guidance and confidence in God the Creator. Secularism took another significant step in 18th century, with the so-called ‘Enlightenment’, when European political theory stressed the potential power of human beings to govern themselves in contrast with the religious theory of necessity of divine guidance.

The have been called upon to take Allah’s Scripture as their legal system….Holy Qur’an. But the Judeo-Christian West deviated from that along the lines of secularism, agnosticism, humanism and atheism.

However, the result of such man-made dogma was nothing but one major atrocity after another at the hands of a few ‘Godless chosen ones’. Between two World Wars and the Jewish Communist Revolution in Russia – over 250 million innocent people perished.

this is obviously not your work...give the source next time...

and the piece is (from my view) warped, wrong, misleading, not-understanding for secular/religious divide, and radically away from the truth.

allahu ackbar in christ the lord of the world

tawhid



Posted By: Rehmat
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 1:04pm

Originally posted by tawhid

...this is obviously not your work...give the source next time...

Are you saying - I cut & pasted it from your 'holy Talmud'?

Well to prove your point - you got to give me the page number!



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Know your enemy!
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Posted By: Rehmat
Date Posted: 04 April 2005 at 2:16pm

In a recent essay, philosophy professor Joseph Lawrence observed that in Iraq,

America is at war not with international terrorism, not with Iraqi insurgents, not with Islamic fundamentalism - but with Islam itself, a world religion rendered problematic by its failure to honor the distinction between church and state, a failure that makes reconciliation with the secular order of modernity impossible.

While Bush has consistently maintained that the war on terror is not a war on Islam, it is important to know that many of his most vocal supporters disagree. Central to their viewpoint is the idea that, because Islam never had a "reformation" comparable to the emergence of Protestant Christianity in the16th century, it is necessarily anti-democratic and incapable of functioning in the modern world.

http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=ZD0503-2638 - http://www.iviews.com/Articles/articles.asp?ref=ZD0503-2638

What we call "secular" is in fact, Luciferianism, a religion of Satan worship. This fact is hidden under a facade of tolerance of all religions. But this tolerance disguises an active hostility (i.e. intolerance) of genuine religion Islam that assert a supreme moral force in the universe called Allah. Luciferians work to infiltrate and destroy these religion.



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Know your enemy!
No time to waste. Act now!
Tomorrow it will be too late
What You Don’t Know Can Kill You




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