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Printed Date: 22 October 2014 at 7:03am


Topic: Syria
Posted By: abuayisha
Subject: Syria
Date Posted: 28 August 2013 at 8:05pm
U.S. rejects Syrian request that U.N. inspectors stay longer, possibly delaying military strike


http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/syria-wants-un-weapons-inspectors-to-stay-longer-move-could-forestall-us-military-strike/2013/08/28/69855348-1008-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html


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Michiganian
12:50 PM PDT
Right, the Middle East is a complete mess. Let's lob in a few bombs just to make it better, since we can do so, even though there is some difference of opinion on whether the government or the rebels are responsible for the gas attack.

Hasn't anybody even figured out that we can always drop bombs tomorrow if needed, but we can't un-drop the ones we send in today?



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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 29 August 2013 at 4:12am

Syria will become a "graveyard of the invaders"

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=456918 - -

Putin : no evidence has been given on the use of chemical weapons by the government of Syria, adding that Russian does not believe that Syrian government has used chemical weapons since they have been advancing in the war and did not need to do it

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=456923 - -

Many facts "tend to prove the innocence of the Syrian government, which has been subject to false accusations," AFP quoted the ambassador as saying

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=456638 - -

Syrian Rebels Used Sarin Nerve Gas, Not Assad’s Regime

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=456912 - -

Syria war to cause Israel destruction

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1511031 - -

Who benefits from using chemical weapons?

http://en.alalam.ir/news/1510377 - -

President Hassan Rouhani: Any adventurism in the Middle East would endanger regional and global stability. people of the world, especially in the region, are not ready for a new war and warned that any adventurism in the region would only result in promotion of extremism and terrorism


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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 29 August 2013 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

U.S. rejects Syrian request that U.N. inspectors stay longer, possibly delaying military strike

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/syria-wants-un-weapons-inspectors-to-stay-longer-move-could-forestall-us-military-strike/2013/08/28/69855348-1008-11e3-85b6-d27422650fd5_story.html

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Michiganian
12:50 PM PDT
Right, the Middle East is a complete mess. Let's lob in a few bombs just to make it better, since we can do so, even though there is some difference of opinion on whether the government or the rebels are responsible for the gas attack.

Hasn't anybody even figured out that we can always drop bombs tomorrow if needed, but we can't un-drop the ones we send in today?

It is very disturbing, and beyond perplexing.
The first statement, if true, is most disturbing.  What good reason could there be for the U.S. to deny such a request.
And I agree with Michiganian.



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Posted By: qasim88
Date Posted: 30 August 2013 at 3:25pm
Salaam everyone. The following is my political analyses of the justification used to postulate possible US intervention in Syria. Inshallah i hope it is of benefit.

Link to article: ideasforthemodernworld.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/is-us-intervention-in-syria-justified/

Or you can access my article on New Civilisation:
http://www.newcivilisation.com/home/3410/middle-east/is-us-intervention-in-syria-justified/


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 02 September 2013 at 3:10pm

I wish I understood what it is that Assad hopes to achieve... what is his plan for his country... what is it he is trying to accomplish...

 

How strange it is to see France on the side of the U.S.



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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 02 September 2013 at 3:31pm
Qasim the end of your analysis, that;

"Thus if Al Assad’s regime is to fall then the security of one of America’s greatest and important assets, Israel, will come into jeopardy. The UN also has no credibility as an arbitrator for a peaceful solution given its inability to apply and enforce international law consistently. The reality is that the justification for intervention is not because of the use of chemical weapons by Al-Assad’s regime, but rather the rise of an Islamic vision which if materialised could potentially threaten US political interests indefinitely in the region."

appears to run counter-intuitive to everything written prior to your ending argument.


Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 02 September 2013 at 7:16pm
Originally posted by Caringheart

The first statement, if true, is most disturbing.  What good reason could there be for the U.S. to deny such a request.
 
This is Iraq all over again.  The parallels are so obvious I can't believe anyone even takes the US seriously when they (again!) make claims about WMD based on dubious evidence. 
 
And now (again!) they want the inspectors out.  First I've heard of that, but it fits.  They are determined to start the bombing, and they wouldn't want the inspectors to weaken their justification for it.


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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 04 September 2013 at 8:51am
Yesterday we noted that AIPAC had issued a statement strongly in support of a strike. Now it’s in “full court press,” its power on the line. Haaretz’s Chemi Shalev says the entire American Jewish establishment jumped off the fence to support the strike, yesterday:

The American Jewish establishment jumped off the fence on Tuesday and came out in full support of Congressional approval of President Barack Obama’s plans to launch a military strike against Syria’s chemical weapon capacity.

And Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren took the unusual step of expressing support for elements of President Obama’s statements on Syria, including his assertion that the Assad regime must be held accountable and that there should be “international consequences” for his use of chemical weapons.

The sudden unified burst of support for Obama’s request for Congressional authorization for a strike against Syria follows almost two weeks in which Jewish organizations have maintained a low profile on the August 21 chemical attack near Damascus and the American response to it.

http://mondoweiss.net/2013/09/in-sunlight-at-last-israel-lobby-throws-its-full-weight-behind-obamas-syria-strike.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/09/03/aipac-in-full-court-press-on-syria.html


Posted By: Reepicheep
Date Posted: 05 September 2013 at 2:04pm
>>> AIPAC had issued a statement strongly in support of a strike.

Interestingly, the Council on American-Islamic Relations(CAIR) has also come out in support of a strike:

"Despite President Obama's clear statement that use of chemical weapons constitutes a 'red line' that must not be crossed, little or no action has been taken by our government to stop the massacre of Syrian civilians using banned weapons.

We condemn this most recent violence and urge our government to act without delay in taking concrete steps to bring an end to criminal attacks by the Assad regime that have already killed more than 100,000 Syrians.

President Obama should also carry out his as yet unfulfilled pledge to send military supplies to those fighting for freedom in Syria. Statements alone are insufficient to persuade Assad and his regime to step aside and to allow freedom and justice to take root in Syria.



http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12097-cair-urges-obama-to-act-without-delay-after-syria-gas-massacre.html - CAIR Urges Obama to 'Act Without Delay' After Syria Gas Massacre


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 05 September 2013 at 3:45pm
Originally posted by Reepicheep

>>> AIPAC had issued a statement strongly in support of a strike.

Interestingly, the Council on American-Islamic Relations(CAIR) has also come out in support of a strike:

"Despite President Obama's clear statement that use of chemical weapons constitutes a 'red line' that must not be crossed, little or no action has been taken by our government to stop the massacre of Syrian civilians using banned weapons.

We condemn this most recent violence and urge our government to act without delay in taking concrete steps to bring an end to criminal attacks by the Assad regime that have already killed more than 100,000 Syrians.

President Obama should also carry out his as yet unfulfilled pledge to send military supplies to those fighting for freedom in Syria. Statements alone are insufficient to persuade Assad and his regime to step aside and to allow freedom and justice to take root in Syria.


http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/12097-cair-urges-obama-to-act-without-delay-after-syria-gas-massacre.html - CAIR Urges Obama to 'Act Without Delay' After Syria Gas Massacre

Greetings Reepicheep,

This is no surprise given the information I have come upon in the last month or so.  CAIR it appears, is a front for the Muslim Brotherhood in the U.S. 
http://shoebat.com/2013/09/03/obama-salutes-muslim-brotherhood-in-usa/

I found this to be compelling also.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To8MVbmyLYA


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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 05 September 2013 at 8:36pm
Council on American-Islamic Relations Statement:

"Despite President Obama's clear statement that use of chemical weapons constitutes a 'red line' that must not be crossed, little or no action has been taken by our government to stop the massacre of Syrian civilians using banned weapons.
"We condemn this most recent violence and urge our government to act without delay in taking concrete steps to bring an end to criminal attacks by the Assad regime that have already killed more than 100,000 Syrians.
"President Obama should also carry out his as yet unfulfilled pledge to send military supplies to those fighting for freedom in Syria. Statements alone are insufficient to persuade Assad and his regime to step aside and to allow freedom and justice to take root in Syria.
"The Syrian regime must be forced to allow a U.N. investigation of this deadly attack and America must work with other leading nations to end the conflict.
"History will not be kind to those who merely stand and watch as millions suffer and die in Syria."

Our government has already taken steps to assist those seeking to oppose Assad militarily, which was a mistake in my estimation, and U.N. investigators are on the ground in Syria. If CAIR is calling for American strikes against Syria, which is not clear in the above statement, their organization is out of step with the majority of Americans who are in opposition to US military involvement.   


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 08 September 2013 at 5:38pm

Interview with Bashar al-Assad - Monday, Sep. 9, 2013 at 9 pm

http://www.pbs.org/about/news/archive/2013/charlie-rose-interviews-bashar-al-assad/ - http://www.pbs.org/a...ashar-al-assad/

I am looking forward to hearing what Bashar has to say.



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