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Printed Date: 31 July 2014 at 8:52pm


Topic: can Muslim boy be Frd of Christian girl
Posted By: nak03
Subject: can Muslim boy be Frd of Christian girl
Date Posted: 08 August 2013 at 4:58am
Aslamwalikum,I have many questions about frdship with Christian girl,we are fb Frds, I like her frdship but she thks she love me but I want to keep her as a frd only, can anyone help me for this type of relationship,I just want to be Frd (Facebook frd)she has some bad habits like cigarette can I be her frd.plz help me??i



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Posted By: NABA
Date Posted: 04 October 2013 at 8:59am
W.S.Well u should avoid 2 much of interaction because too much of interactionare opening gateways for haraam things, mmoreover Allah forbids marrying unbelieving women until she believes in ch 2 v 221, Allah says in ch 5 v 72-those who regard Jesus (pbuh) as God r commiting shirk.so brother I m not saying that u shud defriend her because u don't know when u or her need help but keep in mind don't advance too much.


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 05 October 2013 at 12:05pm
Salaam

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh7zQrScwOI


Posted By: nak03
Date Posted: 07 October 2013 at 10:42am
thank you let me understand your answers .. :D


Posted By: herber345
Date Posted: 15 December 2013 at 10:59pm
According to me you can make any one your friend if he/she is good of nature and care for you. And the religion should not come between the friendship. It should be demand free. If you break your friendship only for your religion I think you are going out from humanity.
If point comes about wedding, I think Islamic man can marry with woman of monotheistic religions , i.e Jewish, christian with some formalities of religion change. 


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 16 June 2014 at 6:27am
me from hong kong (pakistani).age13.dont worry as long u are only friend.looking at her isnt haram . also whats he problem if shes christian . she is ur friend . u can befriend with anyone . her bad habit would not affect u. i habe chinese friends that are girls too . it would wrong gor beingfriends


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 17 June 2014 at 3:58am
Originally posted by osamahk

me from hong kong (pakistani).age13.dont worry as long u are only friend.looking at her isnt haram . also whats he problem if shes christian . she is ur friend . u can befriend with anyone . her bad habit would not affect u. i habe chinese friends that are girls too . it would wrong gor beingfriends


Little boy don't make comments in matters that you don't understand. Friendship between a boy and a girl is haram no matter what the religion is.

Instead of logging into st**id sites like facebook try and learn your deen.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 17 June 2014 at 8:28pm
Wow, Abu Loren.... nice way to encourage a young person...
nice example you show. Shocked
You might try guiding rather than humiliating.
Peace.


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 18 June 2014 at 3:05am
Originally posted by Caringheart

Wow, Abu Loren.... nice way to encourage a young person...
nice example you show. Shocked
You might try guiding rather than humiliating.
Peace.


Firm but strong. I hope the boy gets the message.


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 21 June 2014 at 2:54am
who are u to tell me or guide me . are u my parents?no . mind ur own business man . i didnt comment on ur post . its not ur post . also *****website ?? lol u seems to be a *****. now just dont comment on me


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 21 June 2014 at 2:56am
calling me a little boy?? lol .then can i call u old man? just hate someone commenting on me


Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 4:00am
LOL Wow!

Show these comments to your parents and tell that I said to give you a darn good hiding. (With a belt).

Then you should go and learn your deen. :)


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 9:00am
Wow, osamahk,

I started out having some respect and consideration for you, but after these posts...  you have lost it. 
You probably won't care... but you could get back some respect and consideration if you did.

I wish you peace and I hope you find it.
asalaam.


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever


Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 9:51am
Originally posted by Abu Loren

Little boy don't make comments in matters that you don't understand. Friendship between a boy and a girl is haram no matter what the religion is.


Abu Loren, you too might well be advised not to make comments in matters you don't understand.  As far as I know, Islam is the only religion that forbids friendship, ever, with anyone.  Certainly Christianity would not have any objection to boys and girls being friends.

In this particular situation I agree that nak03 should be cautious, because this girl is talking about "love" and he clearly doesn't feel that way.  I would advise him that he should look upon their relationship as an opportunity to be a good influence on her (it sounds like she needs it), while being careful that she is not a bad influence on him.


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Addeenul Aql Religion is intellect.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 11:40am
Originally posted by Ron Webb

Islam is the only religion that forbids friendship, ever, with anyone.


This is the type of irresponsible, and reckless islamophobia that only serves to polarize and fuel hatred. These are difficult times we are all living in and rhetoric has consequences.   


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 1:32pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

Originally posted by Ron Webb

Islam is the only religion that forbids friendship, ever, with anyone.


This is the type of irresponsible, and reckless islamophobia that only serves to polarize and fuel hatred. These are difficult times we are all living in and rhetoric has consequences.   

Gretings abuayisha,

I agree that we are living in precarious times, but, Ron's statement....
is it rhetoric, or is it truth?
Because the way I see it, until we all can embrace the day of extending friendship to all, evaluating each on his own merits and with equal treatment, the times will remain dangerous.  If there is an ideology that says you must not be friends with this group, or that group, we will never find the true path... the path that leads to peace among humanity and preservation of the creation.  We must find the way that brings friendship on earth, rather than distrust.

asalaam,
Caringheart


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever


Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 2:15pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

Originally posted by Ron Webb

As far as I know, Islam is the only religion that forbids friendship, ever, with anyone.

This is the type of irresponsible, and reckless islamophobia that only serves to polarize and fuel hatred. These are difficult times we are all living in and rhetoric has consequences.  

I added back my qualifying phrase "as far as I know", which you dropped in quoting me.  Without that, my statement is much more polarizing and reckless than I intended it.  Yes, rhetoric has consequences -- but so do misquotes.

Abu Loren says that Islam forbids friendship between girls and boys.  I wasn't aware of that, and I invite him to show evidence for that claim.  However, it doesn't surprise me much, because the Quran repeatedly forbids Muslims to have non-Muslim friends.  Just a few of many examples:
  • 3:118  "O ye who believe! Take not for intimates others than your own folk, who would spare no pains to ruin you; they love to hamper you."
  • 60:13  "O ye who believe! Be not friendly with a folk with whom Allah is wroth, (a folk) who have despaired of the Hereafter as the disbelievers despair of those who are in the graves."
  • 5:80  "Thou seest many of them making friends with those who disbelieve. Surely ill for them is that which they themselves send on before them : that Allah will be wroth with them and in the doom they will abide."
  • 9:23  "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong doers."
  • 4:144  "O ye who believe! Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you?"
Now, it's quite possible that other religions have similar prohibitions, which is why I said "as far as I know"; but I haven't heard of them.  I welcome anyone who can offer examples.

It's also quite possible that Muslims have ways of twisting the (IMHO) very clear xenophobic message of the Quran into something more ecumenical.  I'd like to hear about that too.

But please don't accuse me of fueling hatred and polarization, merely for pointing out the many polarizing and hate-filled statements in the Quran itself.

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Addeenul Aql Religion is intellect.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 2:42pm
Theology must be understood in context, however given your feigned ignorance of contextual relevance, which has been explained on these boards many times, along with how you ended your comment about our Holy Book, indeed you and your ilk are very careless and vile.


Posted By: Ron Webb
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 8:07pm
Really, abuayisha, what is the point in posting something like that?  If you think there is some context I am missing, then please explain what it is.  Otherwise, ad hominems only undermine your own credibility.

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Addeenul Aql Religion is intellect.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 9:03pm
Please drop your pretense at seeking an explanation. What I have said about you is simply an applicable conclusion based on your own statements. You allow your hate for Islam and Muslims to cause you to be intellectually dishonest.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 22 June 2014 at 9:11pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

Please drop your pretense at seeking an explanation. What I have said about you is simply an applicable conclusion based on your own statements. You allow your hate for Islam and Muslims to cause you to be intellectually dishonest.

Greetings abuayisha,

Why does that so often seem to be the fall back answer for any argument that can't be answered...
accuse people of being dishonest, disingenuine, insincere, of having an agenda.... call them ignorant, and 'hateful', or an islamophobe...  and so on, and so on....
It's very frustrating, tiresome, and offensive(if one chooses to be offended, however, most of us, to our credit, manage to take these ad-hominem attacks in our strides.).

asalaam,
Caringheart


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Let us seek Truth together
Blessed be God forever


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:14am
why should i show these to my parent??lol st**id . its my life   . show your comments to ur frds . see what they say??
also is this forum urs??u own this forum?lol u dont even have a rubbish bin .i am scared that u cant even afford to buy a rubbish bin


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:22am
hey hey hey . did that old man gives me respect?no.he called me little boy . so this means that i can called him with any words . just like him
also i dont know who u are . but stay away from our matter . i dont need i
ur advice .
he trys u tell me that he is bigger ,he has more voice than me .thats why he called boy . read quran old man . no white ppl should have rules on black ppl . no elder should have rules on younger one . no rich guy should have rules on poor guy . so who u are to say littleboy?? mind ur business


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:24am
give me belt ?who wants it


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 8:52am
hey stup id . if u want to give advice to someone next time . then says like i dont agree with what u said...........
not like this little boy dont comment if u dont...........   if u say thid kind of then u would only get reply of someone calling u fking stup id old man


Posted By: osamahk
Date Posted: 08 July 2014 at 9:06am
facebook*****site?
Facebook in itself is not "haram" or forbidden. Only if one uses it in the wrong way, then it is not permissible. There are many Islamic groups on Facebook and it could be used as a tool for spreading Islam. Apart from that, it is merely a social-tool which one uses to keep in touch with friends and family. If you didn't know the "brothers" why accept add requests from them? You can also limit your profile so that no one can search your name, or see you off other friends' lists. That way only female friends/relatives will see your pictures, etc.In my opinion, Facebook is not a life-trasher if one knows how to use it properly. If one limits their time on it (a.k.a does not get addicted) then it's perfectly fine and does not depress your faith. It can be used to actually increase your faith and make you a better Muslim.



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