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Topic: mad dog..
Posted By: honeto
Subject: mad dog..
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 12:49pm
just ran across this video. See we knew this was going on, Israel behind all this war and destruction of Muslim countries. We were told before, conspiracy theory, just matter of time and doing some research, facts are there, we just have to explore them.
Look at the evil he is speaking, he even looks evil.

Hasan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpQdg4D78Jc

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"



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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 12:58pm
really this man is not even stable when he talks, he belongs to a mental hospital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlJ6erL-HY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAlJ6erL-HY

Hasan

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: nothing
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 5:35pm
Living in fantasy seems to be the trade mark of them. They never mix with people in the street except in their term. They have the "victim" mentality and fantasizing themselves always under the siege. The Bible pretty much tell about their mentality, UNDER the SIEGE mentality. Under Egyptian rules, under the Romans etc. The story of Masada is good start to know their mentality, pure fantasy.


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 16 December 2012 at 7:13am
Muslims are responsible for the destruction of Muslim countries. It's mainly about Muslims killing Muslims. Check the statistics. Of course it's easier to blame Israel (or the US) for everything.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Shaik Speare
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 6:17am
Matt, feel free to post the statistics.


Posted By: Reepicheep
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 6:26am
Shaik Speare: Matt, feel free to post the statistics.
 
In Syria alone, how many muslims have been killed by muslims in the past two years?  Do you think that number is bigger or smaller than the total number of muslims killed by Jews in the past two years?


Posted By: Shaik Speare
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 6:40am
I would like to see the statistics Matt was referring to.


Posted By: Reepicheep
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 7:01am

The statistics are obvious.  There is hardly a country in the Middle East right now where muslims aren't killing their fellow muslims. 

Here's one statistic for you: during the time of the Syrian uprising, all sources agree that at least 40,000 people (the vast majority muslims) have been killed in Syria.  The actual number is probably closer to 50,000 killed.
 
Can you provide us with a list of 40,000 or 50,000 muslims who have been killed by Jews in the past two years?
 
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EDIT: here are some conservative statistics I've compiled of muslims killed by muslims during the Arab Spring:
 
45,000 Syria (approximate)
15,000 Libya (approximate)
2,000 Yemen (approximate)
846 Egypt
338 Tunisia
90 Bahrain
 
These numbers alone total 63,000 muslims killed by muslims.  And, I haven't included places like Pakistan, Iraq, and Afghanistan where muslims have been killing muslims on a daily basis for many years.


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 17 December 2012 at 7:36am
I first read about the statistics in Irshad Manji's new book "Allah, Liberty and Love". It is not available online, but I found an article:

Asked by Allyson Gall, executive director of Metro NJ AJC, why there is such a fixation among Muslims on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, she exclaimed, “Laziness.” She said it is easier for them, and for the governments of Arab countries, to focus on Israel and talk about Western and Jewish “imperialism” than to tackle the problems within their own societies. “More Muslims are tortured and killed by Muslims than by any foreign imperial power,” Manji said.

http://www.njjewishnews.com/article/2487/muslim-reformer-finds-hope-for-change-in-arab-world - http://www.njjewishnews.com/article/2487/muslim-reformer-finds-hope-for-change-in-arab-world

I also found an article in the reputable German magazine DER SPIEGEL:

Al-Qaida Kills Eight Times More Muslims Than Non-Muslims: Between 2004 and 2008, for example, al-Qaida claimed responsibility for 313 attacks, resulting in the deaths of 3,010 people. And even though these attacks include terrorist incidents in the West - in Madrid in 2004 and in London in 2005 - only 12 percent of those killed (371 deaths) were Westerners. It is no surprise that al-Qaida kills more Muslims than non-Muslims - particularly for people in the Islamic world. But a new report by the Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) at the United States' Military Academy at West Point in New York - which has gathered together these and other relevant figures in one report ("Deadly Vanguards: A Study Of al-Qaida's Violence Against Muslims "), spells out the discrepancy in black and white. Between 2006 and 2008, non-Westerners were 38 times more likely to be killed by an al-Qaida attack than Westerners. Since al-Qaida has limited capability to strike against its Western enemies, the group maintains its relevance by attacking countries with Muslim majorities, the study concludes. Critics will no doubt point out that the study comes from the CTC, an organization that is part of an American military school. In recent years, the CTC has released a number of excellent studies on terrorism. But because it is actually supplying arguments, backed by scientific research, for the fight against terrorism to decision makers, politicians and military personnel in the US, it cannot be considered strictly neutral. This perceived lack of neutrality doesn't change the fact that the fundamental findings of the report are correct and meaningful.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/surprising-study-on-terrorism-al-qaida-kills-eight-times-more-muslims-than-non-muslims-a-660619.html - http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/surprising-study-on-terrorism-al-qaida-kills-eight-times-more-muslims-than-non-muslims-a-660619.html

I also found this from Marisol posted on August 24, 2011

Since 1948, almost 10 million Muslims have died at the hands of fellow Muslims. As the Syrian death count clicks every day to come close to 2,000, the Turkish-Kurdish death count does not stop, already over 40,000 since 1984, both adding to the big pool of blood called the Middle East. Sudan is not in the conventional Middle East, so let’s ignore the genocide there. Let’s ignore, also, the West Pakistani massacres in East Pakistan (Bangladesh) totaling 1.25 million in 1971. Or 200,000 deaths in Algeria in war between Islamists and the government in 1991-2006. But a simple, strictly Middle East research will give you one million deaths in the all-Muslim Iran-Iraq war; 300,000 Muslim minorities killed by Saddam Hussein; 80,000 Iranians killed during the Islamic revolution; 25,000 deaths in 1970-71, the days of Black September, by the Jordanian government in its fight against the Palestinians; and 20,000 Islamists killed in 1982 by the elder al-Assad in Hama. The World Health Organization’s estimate of Osama bin Laden’s carnage in Iraq was already 150,000 a few years earlier. In a 2007 research, Gunnar Heinsohn from the University of Bremen and Daniel Pipes, director of the Middle East Forum, found out that some 11 million Muslims have been violently killed since 1948, of which 35,000, (0.3 percent) died during the six years of Arab war against Israel, or one out of every 315 fatalities. In contrast, over 90 percent who perished were killed by fellow Muslims.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/since-1948-almost-10-million-muslims-have-died-at-the-hands-of-fellow-muslims.html - http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/08/since-1948-almost-10-million-muslims-have-died-at-the-hands-of-fellow-muslims.html




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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: schmikbob
Date Posted: 19 December 2012 at 1:13pm
Excellent post Matt.  Fairly incontrovertible.



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