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Topic: Afghans want peace...
Posted By: honeto
Subject: Afghans want peace...
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:28pm
Afghans are sick of war, of occupation first by the Soviets, and now by the Nato lead foreign forces. This occupation has only increased misery to the lives of the people in that part of the world.
23 years of foreign occupation with the use of world's most destructive weapons have its toll on the people and land of Afghanistan. Why the world is complacent in this act of violence,that has took the lives of two to three million people, in particular those who declare themselves civilized. Why are they absent or quiet, as if they do not exist.

It is time that they come out of closet of fear, and raise their voices for the basic rights of Afghan people, the right to live.
Here is an Afghan's appeal to all:
%20 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT4oj1oPZ1M

Hasan

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"



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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 5:13pm
I don't know that it is right to call it occupation.  No one is trying to take the country away from the people.  I think I can understand the desire of the people to no longer be living in wartime conditions... with soldiers with weapons roaming everywhere... but we must remember that this military is not just an outside military.  The outsiders will be leaving.  It is an outside military only there long enough to help the government to take control of its own land.  I would say that it will still feel like occupation if soldiers continue to patrol even after the outsiders leave.  Isn't that how it was under the taliban rule?  So it really has little to do with outsiders being there or not but with its own government.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 8:36pm

"Because Barack Obama has run a generally hawkish foreign policy, his Republican opponents don't have a lot of daylight to exploit on that issue. But if they weren't so preoccupied with sounding tough, they could go after Obama's foolish decision to escalate the war in Afghanistan back in 2009, which remains his biggest foreign policy blunder to date."

  http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/12/on_the_afghan_killings - http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/03/12/on_the_afghan_killings


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 30 November 2012 at 7:09am
It is grossly unfair to compare the NATO intervention with the Soviet occupation. Islamist terrorists based in Afghanistan murdered almost 3000 innocent people in the US.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 2:21am

Dear matt ,You must know that muslems aren’t terrorists .we don’t accept that Taliban be muslem .because our religion never says to us that we kill guiltless people .killing is Haram and our religion dont let  us to  kill guiltless and clean people.we are hate from killing and murder and want peace .this terroristic group only want to  show that muslems aren’t good .we are hate from Taliban and all of enemies of Islam .Taliban is only a hyena .hyena to our dear prophet to our dear religion, to all muslems and to Allah .they kill muslems , too. Taliban is a hateful group that only wants to kill and there is not  any difference for him that kill muslems or non-muslems. This mischief makings  are very dirty group .my friend never say that muslems or any other religion are terrorists because this is not relate to their religion .its reason is their mind and spirit .all of humans know that every one that can kill guiltless people easily is a mental sick and worse than cruel animals because don’t use from their brain ,they don’t have ability for distinguish bad works .an animal is more emotion from this group.  they don’t want  to accept the realities and justice and cant see beauties of this world. They like to see that every thing  is dark .we believe that they must be ashamed from their villainy .all of humans were sad when hear the news of 11 September  .may be one of the dead people be our friend or our relative .we don’t want to see a die of a bird how we can kill the humans??? now ,is it true we kill muslems in Islamic or non-Islamic countries from this group? is it fair? every one and every country  needs to peace and calm.



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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:26am
I never said that all Muslims are terrorists. Out of the 1.5 billion there are about 100,000 militant Islamists and terrorists worldwide and about 150 million non-militant Islamists (they are not violent themselves, but approve of violence if asked). Which leaves 1.35 billion peaceful Muslims.




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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 9:37pm

When you speak about muslems ,you must be cautious .because all of us are unite ,brother and equal .

One for All &All for One Smile

 



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Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 8:09am

Supreme Leader’s Inaugural Speech at the 16th Non-Aligned Summit  30/08/2012
All praise belongs to Allah, the Lord of the Two Worlds, and may peace and blessings be upon the greatest and trustworthy Messenger and on his pure progeny, his select companions, and all the prophets and divine envoys.

The UN Security Council has an illogical, unjust and completely undemocratic structure and mechanism. This is a flagrant form of dictatorship, which is antiquated and obsolete and whose expiry date has passed. It is through abusing this improper mechanism that America and its accomplices have managed to disguise their bullying as noble concepts and impose it on the world. They protect the interests of the West in the name of “human rights”. They interfere militarily in other countries in the name of “democracy”. They target defenseless people in villages and cities with their bombs and weapons in the name of “combating terrorism”. From their perspective, humanity is divided into first-, second- and third-class citizens. Human life is considered cheap in Asia, Africa and Latin America, and expensive in America and Western Europe. The security of America and Europe is considered important, while the security of the rest of humanity is considered unimportant. Torture and assassination are permissible and completely ignored if they are carried out by America, the Zionists and their puppets. It does not trouble their conscience that they have secret prisons in various places on different continents, in which defenseless prisoners who have no legal representation and have not been tried in a court of law are treated in the most hideous and detestable way. Good and evil are defined in a completely one-sided and selective way. They impose their interests on the nations of the world in the name of “international law”. They impose their domineering and illegal demands in the name of “international community”. Using their exclusive and organized media network, they disguise their lies as the truth, their falsehood as true, and their oppression as efforts to promote justice. In contrast, they brand as lies every true statement that exposes their deceit and label every legitimate demand as roguish.
this flawed and harmful situation cannot continue. Everybody has become tired of this faulty international structure. The 99 percent movement of the American people against the centers of wealth and power in America and the widespread protests of the people in Western Europe against the economic policies of their governments show that the people are losing their patience with this situation. It is necessary to remedy this irrational situation. Firm, logical and comprehensive bonds between member states of the Non-Aligned Movement can play an important role in finding a remedy.

The Islamic Republic's successful experience in resistance against the bullying and comprehensive pressures by America and its accomplices has firmly convinced it that the resistance of a unified and firmly determined nation can overcome all enmities and hostilities and open a glorious path to its lofty goals. The comprehensive advances made by our country in the last two decades are facts for all to see, as repeatedly attested by official international observers. All this has happened under sanctions, economic pressures and propaganda campaigns by networks affiliated with America and Zionism. The sanctions, which were regarded as paralyzing by nonsensical commentators, not only did not and will not paralyze us, but have made our steps steadier, elevated our resolve and strengthened our confidence in the correctness of our analyses and the inborn capacities of our nation. We have with our own eyes repeatedly witnessed divine assistance in these challenges

international peace and security are among the critical issues of today’s world and the elimination of catastrophic weapons of mass destruction is an urgent necessity and a universal demand. In today’s world, security is a shared need where there is no room for discrimination. Those who stockpile their anti-human weapons in their arsenals do not have the right to declare themselves as standard-bearers of global security. Undoubtedly, this will not bring about security for themselves either. It is most unfortunate to see that countries possessing the largest nuclear arsenals have no serious and genuine intention of removing these deadly weapons from their military doctrines and they still consider such weapons as an instrument that dispels threats and as an important standard that defines their political and international position. This conception needs to be completely rejected and condemned.



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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by whitelion553

When you speak about muslems ,you must be cautious .because all of us are unite ,brother and equal .

One for All &All for One Smile


Re: Unity
An interesting note from earlier research that I came across today.
"Islam's history and nature is far too complex to be treated in a brief study. The very term Islam' is equivocal - its sects far exceed in variety and number the almost uncountable sects of Protestant Christianity. To speak indiscriminately of 'Muslims' as if all Muslims believed the same thing, or as if Islam and the Qur'an meant the same thing to all of them, is misleading." (http://jloughnan.tripod.com/3f_islam.htm)

An observation of my own;
People can often be united when given a common enemy, but I do not see this as God's way.  I see this as the devil's way.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 06 December 2012 at 7:52pm
Originally posted by whitelion553

international peace and security are among the critical issues of today’s world and the elimination of catastrophic weapons of mass destruction is an urgent necessity and a universal demand.


If you agree with the above statement then it is necessary to include Syria, with its stockpiles of chemical weapons.


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 07 December 2012 at 7:11pm

When we speak about an excellent  nation or religion or one person ,we must respect to them (ok)

All of the humans are equal(it is fact)but they make their future from their acts and their behaviors

Caringheart ,you must search about ways

then decide that which way is belong to Allah and which one is belong to devil (ok)

now ,your answer

I believe that chemical weapons are hateful war  crime .this shameful crime is against humanity and it will caused bad effects in the future generation ,too .our children wont forgive us if we use from this weapons .we must reply to them and Allah. it is a threat for all humans .it is a good reason for west countries such as America that attack to other countries .it is their lie for invade to other countries .they did  this  sham program for Afghanistan and Iraq too .their plea was annihilate  terrorism but they invade to this countries and did many terrors and crimes there wildly .they were terrorist and wanted to kill the terrorists (it is very interesting)but we saw that they killed guiltless people of there. And  perished their security and calm.

Right of good living is belong to all people .white or black, man or woman, muslem or non-muslem , poor or rich .all of them are equal .using of chemical weapons is illicit for all nations (America and Israel must be act to this law ,too).effects of this weapons is very harmful and painful .its damages last until moment of die. Dear friend ,we saw its effects and knew about them . we are inform .we are very sad from seeing our dears conditions for Saddam `s chemical weapons against nation of Iran (our dears defend from their nation, their country, their believes, their children and family .they have many rights upon us).we were very alone that time and no-country helped to our dear country. But they support army of Iraq .we see this tragedy in Surya ,now. Iranians were victims of this weapons .they were very guiltless and respectable  nation. this caused that Iran became a strong country (strong and independent)  .thanks Allah.

Chemical patients cant breath easily .they usually  breath by oxygen capsules. (some of them must breath by capsule all of days)It depends to degree of their illness .they cant use from fresh air like us or they cant go to walking by a capsule near them. Living is more difficult for them and their respectful family. Their family tolerant this condition and aren’t tired. this patients suffer from many different  illnesses in whole of their  bodies  but tolerant it for their family and friends and prefer to be silent .but all of doctors know its pain and their tolerance is wonderful for them .they gave their health for their dear country .they are patient that we be health, happy and live in security.

Dear friend nation and government  of Surya are very respectful ,they are our dear brothers and sisters and we  have reliance  to all of them. Their real  nation are very kind if some terrorists from other countries let to them .I believe that this western and some Arabic countries  must reply to Allah for their crimes in our dear friend country (Surya). These countries  want to create difference among Islamic countries. This countries must be ashamed from their bad works and apologize from their nations .Surya never used from chemical weapons but I can say certainly that Israel did this crime (OVER AND OVER).reason of this wild programs is one thing ,this jealous countries are in trouble (political ,economical, social and cultural problems )and for this they want to divert their nations from their problems and strikes .

remember this  : 99%



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