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Ayatollah Khamenei the Supreme Leader of iran

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Topic: Ayatollah Khamenei the Supreme Leader of iran
Posted By: whitelion553
Subject: Ayatollah Khamenei the Supreme Leader of iran
Date Posted: 21 November 2012 at 10:10am
"The truth of the Syrian issue is that the camp of the arrogant powers is trying to destroy the link that connects the chain of resistance in the region and is located next to the borders of the usurping Zionist regime."

Ayatollah Khamenei said that the solution to the Syrian crisis is to prevent weapons from being pumped into Syria and reiterated: "In any country, if opposition forces are provided with weapons from outside the country, the ruling system will naturally confront them."

His Eminence added: "If the opposition forces in Syria put their weapons down, there will be an opportunity for them to demand of the government to listen to them and let them announce their positions."
 


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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 21 November 2012 at 11:49am
Nice comment from Ayatollah Khamenei who is 'pumping weapons from outside the country into Gaza' but doesn't expect them to be confronted.

"If the opposition forces ... put their weapons down, there will be an opportunity for them to demand of the government to listen to them and let them announce their positions."

The same can be said of the Palestinian situation.


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 2:09pm
Carinheart,
you are not all that caring. You need to think about changing that name it does not fit your character. And believe me I am not saying that for any other reason other than what you show of yourself.

Palestinians have been in a mass prison called Gaza for decades. In their own country they have no right to move as they wish. Their commerce, trade, education, healthcare, prosperity, life and their deaths are controlled by Israel. How dare you ignore that?
How dare you look over that?
Israel get Billions of dollars from our tax money to buy weapons of mass destruction, uses them and kill hundreds and thousands of innocent people that it has imprisoned in camps, no civilized nation ever condemning it out of fear of blackmailing by Israel.
Why Palestinian do not have right to get arms but only Israel? where is your fairness, if you claim you preach any? Or you do not believe in fairness for all, just those who you like or who are your friends? Is that what you believe and preach?
Hands of our presidents are tied behind their backs so they cannot speak fairness, against these Israelis and the atrocities they commit, if they do they know they will not be President no more. Did you not watch presidential debates and not know who funds and brings in the one who runs the White House? So these crimes go unchecked, but I must say, every wrong has a day of it's end.

Looks like you grew up in a culture where an enemy is someone you do not want to hear anything from thus you discard even if he speaks the truth. I did not, I do not care who it is that speaks the truth, if it is the truth, you should have guts to say it so.

Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Libya, now Syria are all victims of Western imperialism. All destruction came about due to funneling of arms and money that can be easily traced back to the Western countries and of course you all know who. Wherever foreign interests and agencies are involved there is destruction.

Hasan


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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 2:43pm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza - http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/17/israeli-military-calorie-limit-gaza


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 3:09pm
Originally posted by honeto




Well Hasan, there are others who disagree with you.  I can not help it that you do not like the truths that I present.  You are entitled to your view.  I am entitled to mine.  You think I am uncaring.  I think your views are tainted by prejudice.
"no civilized nation ever condemning it out of fear of blackmailing by Israel. "
??? blackmailing... (conspiracy theories again?) ... There has been plenty said about the actions of Israel and plenty of diplomatic action to try to ease the situation in Palestine.

Let me ask you Hasan... If I am correct you live in Texas... What if Mexico decided it wanted to take back Texas and started launching rockets into Texas?  What then should Texas do?  Should they send arms to Mexico so that it can be a fair fight?  Or would you want your state to preserve itself?  Should they not try to prevent more arms from reaching Mexico, knowing that Mexico was intent on the destruction of your state, and try to reach a diplomatic solution instead?  Could a diplomatic solution ever be reached as long as Mexico was launching rockets into Texas?  Would Texas ever be able to feel safe and trust its neighbor Mexico as long as they were doing that?

I do care about fairness.  That is why I would like to see the aggression stop.  I care about life.  I care no matter who it is happening to.

Salaam,
CH


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 27 November 2012 at 3:30pm
Caringheart,
So you deny that what is going on in Ghaza is not true? and what an average Palestinian goes through is fiction?

It is not about my views and your views, it is rather what is going on. If you see a murder, you call it a murder, if you see a torture, you call it so, if you see humiliation of one human by another you call it as such.
You seem to not have the guts to do just that, are you scared, are you biased, are you insane, are you insensitive. Because I cannot understand you claim to be fair, I do not see it anywhere in replies.
If you do not stand up for the right, God will hold you responsible for your inaction and unfair standing with the aggressor.
You cannot deny fact or close you eyes. Just look at some numbers, and see what is going on, please don;t deny truth and facts, God will deny you salvation for that.
"remember truth will set you free" that's what it means.
check some facts out there:

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/ - http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

Hasan

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 28 November 2012 at 10:57pm
salam,this words are belong to my leader
please think about them

The summary of this matter is that on the basis of a horrible Western plot and under the direction of England in the 1940s, an independent country with a clear historical identity called “Palestine” has been taken away from its people through the use of weapons, killings and deception and has been given to a group of people the majority of whom are immigrants from European countries. This great usurpation – which at the outset was accompanied with massacres of defenseless people in towns and villages and their expulsion from their homes and homeland to bordering countries – has continued for more than six decades with similar crimes and continues to this very day. This is one of the most important issues of the human community.
Political and military leaders of the usurping Zionist regime have not avoided any crimes during this time: from killing the people, destroying their homes and farms and arresting and torturing men and women and even their children, to humiliating and insulting that nation and trying to destroy it in order to digest it in the haraam-eating stomach of the Zionist regime, to attacking their refugee camps in Palestine itself and in the neighboring countries where millions of refugees live. Such names as Sabra and Shatila, Qana and Deir Yasin have been etched in the history of our region with the blood of the oppressed Palestinian people.
Even now after 65 years the same kind of crimes marks the treatment of Palestinians remaining in the occupied territories by the ferocious Zionist wolves. They commit new crimes one after the other and create new crises for the region. Hardly a day passes without reports of murder, injury and arrests of the youth who stand up to defend their homeland and their honor and protest against the destruction of their farms and homes. The Zionist regime, which has carried out assassinations and caused conflicts and crimes for decades by waging disastrous wars, killing people, occupying Arab territories and organizing state terror in the region and in the world, labels the Palestinian people as “terrorists”, the people who have stood up to fight for their rights. And the media networks which belong to Zionism and many of the Western and mercenary media repeat this great lie in violation of ethical values and journalistic commitment, and the political leaders who claim to defend human rights have closed their eyes on all these crimes and support that criminal regime shamelessly and boldly and assume the role of their advocates.
Our standpoint is that Palestine belongs to the Palestinians and that continuing its occupation is a great and intolerable injustice and a major threat to global peace and security. All solutions suggested and followed up by the Westerners and their affiliates for “resolving the problem of Palestine” have been wrong and unsuccessful, and it will remain so in the future. We have put forth a just and entirely democratic solution. All the Palestinians – both the current citizens of Palestine and those who have been forced to immigrate to other countries but have preserved their Palestinian identity, including Muslims, Christians and Jews – should take part in a carefully supervised and confidence-building referendum and chose the political system of their country, and all the Palestinians who have suffered from years of exile should return to their country and take part in this referendum and then help draft a Constitution and hold elections. Peace will then be established.
who always stood up to defend and support the Zionist regime? So far, this regime has created countless problems for American politicians. It has presented a hateful image of American politicians to the regional peoples, and it has made them look like an accomplice in the crimes of the usurping Zionists. The material and moral costs borne by the American government and people on account of this are staggering, and if this continues, the costs might become even heavier in the future.



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Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 12:38pm
Originally posted by honeto

Caringheart,
If you do not stand up for the right, God will hold you responsible for your inaction and unfair standing with the aggressor.
Hasan


Greetings Hasan,

We disagree as to who the aggressor is.
The British mandate was trying to do something humane, and that was to give a displaced people a place where they could live.  Most of the western countries had done all that they could to accomodate these people during two world wars, and none of the eastern nations were offering anything.  Giving them a place in their original homeland makes sense.  One must ask why was that so unagreeable to the mid easterners? 
At the time the British mandate was made, Britain was the ruler in Palestine, so they had the authority to do what they did and it was agreed upon by the coalition of nations known at the UN.  This was not one nation acting on its own but by a consensus agreement. 
We must look at who it is that turned this into a war... and why? 
A war that was lost and yet they will not cede in order to have peace and life... Who is it that would rather continue to have war?
I truly do wonder... Do people ever take the time to study the whole history?

Salaam,
CH


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 1:44pm
Originally posted by Caringheart


Originally posted by honeto

Caringheart,
If you do not stand up for the right, God will hold you responsible for your inaction and unfair standing with the aggressor.
Hasan
Greetings Hasan,We disagree as to who the aggressor is.The British mandate was trying to do something humane, and that was to give a displaced people a place where they could live.  Most of the western countries had done all that they could to accomodate these people during two world wars, and none of the eastern nations were offering anything.  Giving them a place in their original homeland makes sense.  One must ask why was that so unagreeable to the mid easterners?  At the time the British mandate was made, Britain was the ruler in Palestine, so they had the authority to do what they did and it was agreed upon by the coalition of nations known at the UN.  This was not one nation acting on its own but by a consensus agreement.  We must look at who it is that turned this into a war... and why?  A war that was lost and yet they will not cede in order to have peace and life... Who is it that would rather continue to have war?I truly do wonder... Do people ever take the time to study the whole history?Salaam,CH


Caringheart,
what you wrote is laughable and would not pass a 10th grade history test.
To you an aggressor is the one who punch you in the nose, not the one who wipes out (vaporize with deadly bombs) an entire family or a village. You do not see the family nor their house no more. So you say there is no evidence so their is no aggression, right.
Good luck living in your lala land, Mr. Caringheart.
Now I completely understand your denial of facts at all other issues. I wish ifi it had taken less time to figure you out, so I would not have wasted my time.
Hasan



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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 29 November 2012 at 11:01pm
in the name of Allah
part2 from lecture
 

the supporters of Zionists have adopted many measures to trample on the rights of the Palestinian people and holding Annapolis confab is an example of that but the worlds pure consciences and freedom lovers stand by the Palestinian people and support them"

"sometimes a person might disguise himself as a friend and repeat what the enemy says. It is necessary to speak to him and if advice fails to work, it is necessary to distance oneself from him."

"If you are going to stand up against the Islamic Republic and speak against it with the same sentiments as the Zionist regime and just use different language, what is the difference between you and the Zionist regime? If you decide to follow America's rationale in your interaction with the Islamic Republic, there is no difference between you and America."

"There might be deep and major disagreements, but one must not confuse enemies with non-enemies. Enemies and non-enemies should be treated in different ways. It is necessary to draw a line between oneself and the enemy."



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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 02 December 2012 at 3:20am
Originally posted by honeto

Carinheart,
you are not all that caring. You need to think about changing that name it does not fit your character. And believe me I am not saying that for any other reason other than what you show of yourself.

Hasan, most Muslims don't speak up when Israeli children are suffering because of this conflict. I have yet to meet a single Muslim here on Islamicity to acknowledge that both the Israeli people and the Palestinian people are suffering and that political leaders on both sides continue to fail. We should be stressing that we need a better vision for the future than that of denying a nation the right to exist and building illegal settlements on foreign soil.

Caringheart is a good Christian. And like all good Christians we care about all fellow human beings and not just the ones from our own faith. The alias 'Caringheart' is an excellent choice.

As good global citizens we don't attack fellow forum users and question their character or integrity. We might attack an argument or claim that was brought forward and come up with a counterargument. But we respect the dignity of every human being. Even the ones we disagree with.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 02 December 2012 at 3:33am
Originally posted by whitelion553

the supporters of Zionists have adopted many measures to trample on the rights of the Palestinian people and holding Annapolis confab is an example of that but the worlds pure consciences and freedom lovers stand by the Palestinian people and support them"


What is your vision of a better future in the region, Whitelion?




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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: whitelion553
Date Posted: 02 December 2012 at 9:24am

In the  name of Allah

Dear friend ,I know that every one hates from killing and war .not only children of Israel ,I believe that all children are clean and guiltless if we let to them that be good. This is their right that be happy. Our duty is preparing this situation for them .we are responsible. children like together and forget every thing easily because their heart is soft and kind. They want only  a nice and safe place for living without war and cruel and murder .they want to have a health life and kind family.

But we see that this ideals don’t occur only for our bad choices .unfortunately,   we see that most of Israel people train for killing( Their only goal). They like killing the children and their family in front of their eyes .why? if Israel people are human like us and have our minds about life  .why they  must learn to killing guiltless people?

We expected that government of America notified to Israel that select peace and doesn’t attack to Gaza or Palestin  .But they support their criminals. Israel people say that fear from Gaza`s rockets .do you think that gaza`s children like bombs of jets ?do they like to die under missiles by more than 0ne tons ?do they like to see a leg ,arm, head belong to their dears under  the their destroyed  homes or on the surface of street. Do this is a nice memory for them? is it true using the banned weapons?

Is it justice ?who says that this is justice ?is it according of religion of Christ or Jehovah .do you accept this tragedy ?(sometimes watch presstv.com)we see an other tragedy against muslems in myanmar ,too. We must  hear the voice of them that want help from us because we are human and muslem .all muslems enjoy from helping to others.

I like to see that all people in this world  be in peace and enjoy from their  life and access to their holy goals .i wish that all people be luck and happy near together. We must be unite and cooperate every time without personal wants.

If we be supporter and backer of each other .this is clear that future will be full of hope ,respect and light without poverty ,difference ,terror and privation.



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Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 03 December 2012 at 1:33pm
Originally posted by Matt Browne








Originally posted by honeto

Carinheart,
you are not all that caring. You need to think about changing that name it does not fit your character. And believe me I am not saying that for any other reason other than what you show of yourself.

Hasan, most Muslims don't speak up when Israeli children are suffering because of this conflict. I have yet to meet a single Muslim here on Islamicity to acknowledge that both the Israeli people and the Palestinian people are suffering and that political leaders on both sides continue to fail. We should be stressing that we need a better vision for the future than that of denying a nation the right to exist and building illegal settlements on foreign soil.Caringheart is a good Christian. And like all good Christians we care about all fellow human beings and not just the ones from our own faith. The alias 'Caringheart' is an excellent choice.As good global citizens we don't attack fellow forum users and question their character or integrity. We might attack an argument or claim that was brought forward and come up with a counterargument. But we respect the dignity of every human being. Even the ones we disagree with.








Matt,
one wrong leads to many wrongs. That's what we are witnessing.
If we had never let the Zionists to steal the Palestinian land in the first place, no one would be suffering as they are now, just usual sufferings that is part of this life.
Hasan

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 04 December 2012 at 6:22am
Two wrongs don't make a right.

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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: honeto
Date Posted: 10 December 2012 at 2:50pm
Matt,
in this case do you see two wrongs?
Hasan

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39:64 Proclaim: Is it some one other than God that you order me to worship, O you ignorant ones?"


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 16 December 2012 at 7:45am
The second wrong would be taking the nation away from the Israeli people (what Hamas wants). The first wrong was taking the land away from the Palestinians in 1948. If you go further back into history you will find more wrongs, like the Romans taking ownership of the land of the Jews and destroying Jerusalem.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt



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