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Why Are Muslim Humiliated Today?

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Topic: Why Are Muslim Humiliated Today?
Posted By: abjad
Subject: Why Are Muslim Humiliated Today?
Date Posted: 13 July 2012 at 8:21pm


asalaam aleykum.

my dear brothers

I have to put this before you and the idea is to bring up the fact that...
We as followers are trying very hard for our religion but i think our Muslims Leaders with their advisers need to check bellow:-

God sent you His Book so that by reading it you may know Him and learn the way of obeying Him.

Did you ever try to find out what is written in it? (DID THEY ?)

God sent His Prophet to you to teach you the method of becoming Muslim.

Did you ever try to find out what His Prophet has taught?(DID THEY ?)

God showed you the way to attain honour and dignity in this world and the Hereafter.

Do you follow/DO THEY ?

IF Yes, then if i may ask are these the blessings of Kuran ?

Why i post this?

Dear brethren!
Whatever I have said today in my lectures is not intended to blame you.


I have not come as a censurer.

My aim is to make you keen to recover what has been lost.

The anxiety to regain a lost asset arises when a man realizes what actually he has lost and how valuable it was.

That is why I try to awaken you.

If you are aroused and understand that in reality a highly precious object was in your possession, then you will think about regaining it.

wa-Maa - aleyna -ILLA Lbalaa'gh



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Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 07 November 2012 at 2:01pm
Assalamu alaika Abjad.


Nobody has responded to you important arousal question. It is indeed what I have been trying to point to the members of this forum. The humiliation here is insignificant, for the highest and most unbecoming humiliation will be in the Hereafter when the majority of the followers of Muhammad will say: If I had but only listened and use my faculty of discrimination, I would not have been in hell-fire.
Out of 1.0 billion followers, only 19 have read your post! Don't be annoyed!
The reason for the humiliation is course ignorance and arrogance in the basic and fundamental teaching of Muhammad Rasulullah! If you are serious, imagine what is going on in the two holy mosques! Have you read: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1468070444/ref=cm_sw_su_dp? Is the author telling the truth or he is a joker?

Friendship.

  


Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 07 November 2012 at 4:46pm
When the Apostle of Allah went to Taif with the message, the elders and prominent figures did not even care to meet him. The adults went into their houses and ignored him. While, sent their children on streets to make fun of him and stone him. - This was not just humiliation, rather a very cruel humiliation of the Best of Creation!
 
Why muslims are being humliated today is too simple a question, but the reason is not a one line response.
There are many many aspects to it.
 
Firstly we have to understand that not every muslim in every circumstance is humiliated. It depends where we are and what we are doing.
 
Shaykh Hamza Yusuf of Zaytuna Institute was called from President's Office Washington DC to advise Geroge Bush after the 9/11 incident. This was not a humiliation of a muslim rather quite the contratry. Why was he selected from so many muslims in US? Why was he not humiliated in the president's office after he was invited? Perhaps there is an answer here for why muslims are being humiliated today, while he was not. So, who is he and how does he go about his business being a muslim? 
 
The Quran says Allah does not change the condition of a people, unless they change their condition themselves.
If we had honor some years ago, and have lost it now, its because we have changed our conditions by our own deeds.
If we want to go back to the state of honor, again we need to make it happen through our own deeds.
 
Before we make an effort to impress non-muslims (so that they stop humiliating us) we need to look at our community and build ties. We have to stop critisizing eachother for our minor failings, shortcommings and weaknesses. We need to find common grounds and dissolve our differences. We need to learn to love and respect eachother - then spread this sentiment globally.
-Shia/Sunni, Barelwi/Wahabi, practicing/moderate, hijabi/non-hijabi and so on - we must stop these discriminations within our community and embrace eachother as muslims of one millah - one ummah - beleivers in One God. The humiliation will begin to stop from here.
 
That is the frist step.
 
Next comes in the need to educate ourselves and our new generation about the true teachings of Islam. 
In the age of internet, knowledge is under our fingertips. There are so many, many people who are trying to spread knowledge in an organized and systematic way through online academies. We all should join one of them and start our enlightenment process.
It is really, really very sad that today we can compile entire Quran in one CD and volumes of hadith lit. can be conpressed in small electronic devices but our hearts are more empty of their content than in the times when people had to travel months, leave the comfort and safety of their homes  to seek the same sacred knowledge.
 
Everyone should start from within and spread from the immediate family, close freinds.
 
Personally I believe if humiliation is reciprocated with goodness and nobility of character its impact is much bigger.
When someone burns a copy of the Quran, prints cartoons or movies against our beloved prophet, we forget his response to the people of Taif.
What did he do when he was stoned and humiliated by the people of Taif? Did he burn sacred books of others, kill others in rage and assassinate ammassadors who had nothing to do with his humiliation?
Or did he make dua to Allah for their forgiveness and guidence to straight path?
 
I love these lines of Talib Al Habib:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUt5bKQK-YA&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUt5bKQK-YA&feature=related
 
When his blessed body was pierced by rocks
With blood streaming forth he gave this response:
O Allah forgive them for they know not.
Send Peace on him and his family!
 
Allahumma salli ala sayyidina Muhammad wa ala alihi wa sahbihi wa sallam!
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 07 November 2012 at 10:07pm
Assalamu alaiki Nausheen.

You have elaborated what Abjad and I said. But I will take you on your statement that:

Before we make an effort to impress non-muslims (so that they stop humiliating us) we need to look at our community and build ties.
Response:  The word non-muslims is an expression that should have been dropped today. It is better any one not following the Sunna of Muhammad be addressed as one following the faith of his prophet or messenger. This because a 'muslim' is one who submits to the Divine law and Muhammad came with the final message - their aggregates. Allah says: To each of you, We have given a way and Law: If Allah wanted He could have made you all obeying Him. I do not believe that non-muslims do humiliate the followers of Muhammad, but rather the followers of Muhammad humiliate themselves. I have visited many western countries and when I discuss Islam they give an ear of understanding and liking it. Read about the experience of an author in this website: sbpra.com//allamadrsanisalihmustapha.
2. You said: We have to stop critisizing each other for our minor failings, short commings and weaknesses.
Response: There is a great difference between criticism and telling the truth - that is pointing to the appropriate Sunna of Muhammad on that Sunna/action at that instant.  I was opportune to be in your country Japan for one month. I attended the Friday prayer and after concluding it, I asked the Imam why he made the second Khutba in English language. He replied that it is only the first Khutba that must be made in Arabic language and the second one is made in the local language for it explains the first Khutba. I did not disagree although at that time I have no proof of that- that is ignorant of that fatwa. It was later after reading on Khutba that I came across his explanation. But supposing the Imam asked me why should I observe the friday prayer for I am a traveler? I will not believe him and consider his fatwa as  'criticism' or 'opposition' or 'an opinion' for we had so many visits by the Imams of the Ka'ba leading us in friday prayer when they come to commission a mosque built by Saudi Arabia. Technically this is wrong for the holy apostle never observed the friday prayer while on a journey. There is no criticism in the teaching of Muhammad but only telling the truth in confirming all actions to his actions. I am sure you attend friday prayers for there were females in that mosque, who prayed probably in the second floor. I am sure if you were to read the Sunna of Muhammad you will find the Imam making mistakes. Is that criticism if you tell him that he is prolonging the Khutba or read suras outside those read by the holy apostle?.
You said: We need to find common grounds and dissolve our differences. We need to learn to love and respect eachother - then spread this sentiment globally. -Shia/Sunni, Barelwi/Wahabi, practicing/moderate, hijabi/non-hijabi and so on - we must stop these discriminations within our community and embrace each other as muslims of one millah - one ummah - beleivers in One God. The humiliation will begin to stop from here.
Response: It is impossible to achieve that for the common ground has been rejected by the followers of Muhammad. Those are names or descriptions absent in the time of Muhammad and his sahabas. Please remember what happened during the expedition of Banu Al-Mustaliq when in a quarrel a sahaba yelled: O. the Muhajirins and the other yelled O the Helpers! When the holy apostle heard this, he came out of his tent angry and said: You are reverting to the period of ignorance! Stop using such abominable names! You are Muslims! He punished them by making them travel long distance without rest. They were exhausted.
I watched that discussion between President George Bush and Imam Yusuf. I did not like it because Imam Yusuf could not tell George Bush bluntly the primary reason of 9/11. I tried to communicate to him but failed. I did actually wrote to President George telling him that there will never be peace in the world once the Caliphate is not instituted. Who is right?  Imam Yusuf or I?
You said: When someone burns a copy of the Quran,
Response: It is part of the ignorance of the followers of Muhammad to distinguish the holy Qur'an from scientific textbooks for each field of science is an 'ayat' of the holy Qur'an.  For example Allah taught us arithmetic in that 3-7 is equal to ten in Sura 2:196. The entire medical profession is in Sura 17:5. So, what is the wisdom in disallowing the People of the Book from holding and reciting the Qur'an?
You said: we forget his response to the people of Taif.
Response: This is not a good example for the reason behind his visit to Ta'if is as a result of no one to help him at that time in Makka. Anway, Zaid did his best to protect him. I will reserve my comment on that incident in the Hereafter. It was not humiliation for humiliation is only on those who desert Muhammad's actions. Imagine how the bodies of those killed in the battle of badr decomposed instantly. Imagine Abu Jahl killed by a small boy and Umayya killed by his servant Bilal. Hamza was not humiliated by Wahshi. What appears humiliation is a lesson, for example the injury of Muhammad in the battle of Uhud. It was caused by the disobedience to his specific and detailed unequivocal instructions. This is what his followers if facing today!
As you said, the only prescription is going back to his way. We are not ready for that.
Lastly, are you from Indonesia, Malaysia? That mosque was attended by the Malaysians.

Friendship.


 



Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 4:40am
Wa Alaika Assalam Friendship,
Thank you for your careful and well worded response to my previous note.
 
Honestly I dont understand your sentiment thru the post -You do not seem to agree with most of what I said, which is okay. I guess we fail to find common grounds. Its sad, but lets accept the reality anyway.
 
Which mosque were you attending and in which city?
It is usual practice in Japan to say the Khutba in English. I don't know why it was first said in arabic, when there is only a very small group (naitive arabs) who would understand.
I am also not aware of any rulings regarding a multilingual khutba.
 
I do not attend Friday prayers. 
 
I am an Indian.
 
 
 


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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 5:04am
Assalamu alaiki Naausheen.

Yes, indeed. We are understanding the Sunna of Muhammad based on Greek and Latin translations of the Qur'an and as such we create difference in opinion  and the confusion facing the Muslim Umma. The Umma neglect the life history Muhammad and his immediate followers as the true way of life. Therefore, no one should explain the meaning of any word outside its actual meaning in Arabic. For example, Islam does not mean religion neither deen. Addua does not meaning supplication but prayers. Muhammad never addressed the Jews or Christians as dis-believers. They have their way of life and he has his way of life. There was no Shia or ahl-al-sunna in his time. No one should  be forced to believe. However, when the time comes for one to believe in Allah, then that is the time for him to understand the Sunna and strictly abide by it.
In Japan I stayed in Tokyo close to Giza district. Although females did not have their own mosque earlier, today they should have their own mosques to observe the friday prayer.  But this is rejected by the Saudi Arabia Ulama and therefore not available all over the Muslim countries, because Muslims regard what they say as final authority.
Please try to learn Arabic language and read. You will then understand what I am saying.

Friendship.


  


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 7:13am
Originally posted by Friendship

However, when the time comes for one to believe in Allah, then that is the time for him to understand the Sunna and strictly abide by it.

 Although females did not have their own mosque earlier, today they should have their own mosques to observe the Friday prayer. 
 
If we are to strictly abide by the Sunna, why are you suggesting women have their own mosques for Friday prayer, when is was not apart of the Prophet's Sunna, and Friday prayer is not mandatory for women? 


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 9:44am
Assalamu alaikum.

Please read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1468070444/ref=cm_sw_su_dp.


Friendship.


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 11:19am
Your book is rubbish and incoherent, as the majority of your posts, in my estimation.  Wallahu Mustaan!


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 08 November 2012 at 3:01pm
Assalamu alaika abuasiya.

I am grateful to Allah who does not allow to sleep with a misinterpretation of His Words. In the first place there is no 'Wallahu Mustaan' in the holy Qur'an. The correct revelation is: Wallahul musta'anu ala ma tasifun. In the manner Allah comforted prophet Jacob, I am sure He has comforted me over your allegation. Be assured that Allah will ask you in the Hereafter what is rubbish and incorrect in that book. Remember the saying of Muhammad Rasulullah: The one who belies a believer explaining and strengthening my Sunna has belied me. The one who has belied me (Muhammad Rasulullah) has  belied Allah. So if I  am saying the truth, you are in effect saying that Muhammad has told lies. If Muhammad has told lies, the ultimate liar is Allah! Far is He above that. Far is Muhammad above that. Far am I against saying something not said by Muhammad Rasulullah. Yes, in an earlier posting you described me a disbeliever for you said, I have to make a fresh Shahada. Well you will render account to Allah on whatever you say in this forum.

Friendship.



Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 11 November 2012 at 5:59am
Originally posted by Friendship

Assalamu alaiki Naausheen.
Wa Alaika Assalam


Originally posted by Friendship

Yes, indeed. We are understanding the Sunna of Muhammad based on Greek and Latin translations of the Qur'an and as such we create difference in opinion  and the confusion facing the Muslim Umma. The Umma neglect the life history Muhammad and his immediate followers as the true way of life. Therefore, no one should explain the meaning of any word outside its actual meaning in Arabic. For example, Islam does not mean religion neither deen. Addua does not meaning supplication but prayers. Muhammad never addressed the Jews or Christians as dis-believers. They have their way of life and he has his way of life. There was no Shia or ahl-al-sunna in his time. No one should  be forced to believe. However, when the time comes for one to believe in Allah, then that is the time for him to understand the Sunna and strictly abide by it.

Yes I understand this and agree with what you say.
When i said we shld not make discriminations amongst muslims based on certain denomination, I m not saying 'I' should feel content being a shia or a moderate muslim. Its ones duty to learn and follow correct sunnah and correct Islam.
However many a times we treat people very bady, muslims or not, and we base this treatment on their belief and practices. This is not just wrong, it creats a crisis within society.
I took a course in Maharim al Lisaan and it shocked me to note the things which are included as maharim, yet we utter so casually. For our own Islam one must be careful how we present our sentiments to others, at all times, at all places.
 
Originally posted by Friendship

In Japan I stayed in Tokyo close to Giza district. Although females did not have their own mosque earlier, today they should have their own mosques to observe the friday prayer.  But this is rejected by the Saudi Arabia Ulama and therefore not available all over the Muslim countries, be cause Muslims regard what they say as final authority.
It was Al-Azhar, Cairo which was considered as final authority some time ago. Now I don't think is the case.
I dont think all muslims regard Saudis as final authority.  BTW, why do you think women should have their own mosque.

Originally posted by Friendship

Please try to learn Arabic language and read. You will then understand what I am saying.

Friendship.

Thank you for the reminder. I have started to learn Arabic a few years ago. Just that my pace is pretty slow since I cannot devote as much time as it requires on a regular basis.
 
Barak Allahu Feek
 


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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 1:41am

Assalamu alaiki Naausheen.

 

You have asked a very important question. I am sure you know that it is Muhammad Rasulullah who freed women from bondage for he made them equal to man and demanded special care for them. All what women are looking for has been provided by them, had it not been that much of the Sunna is misinterpreted to the point of accusing you of indecency the moment you step your foot outside your compartment. Imagine the much over emphasis on Hijab etc while the best Hijab is education. I find it difficult to believe that the one who voluntarily understand the Shari’a can break it.

Anyway, I was attracted by argument of Dr Yusuf Ali Badyawi  in his introduction of the book: Women in Islam: Al-qadaayah wal fatawaah by  Sayyadita Raym Nash Khayyat. He said:

 

والمعروف انا الرجل فى الآعم الآغلب هو الذى يكتب فى موضع المرأة، ويتحدث عنها، حين بقيت المرأة منعزلة حتى عن ميدان التعبير عن حقوقها ومتطلبا تها واسا سيات حياتها.

 

Explanation: By and large, the man have dominated women in that they have taken over the sole responsibility on telling them in the arena of what is their right, the course they should take in recognizing Allah and Muhammad Rasulullah and how to manage their affairs.

So, by the time women participate in making sermons on Friday on what is their right and how to contribute in world affairs, to challenge the misinterpretation given to the Sunna by man, there will be some sense of decency in the world. The Friday prayer simulates the Day of Judgment when everyone will stand alone to render his account and when everyone will be asked to read his book. You have heard how you are mocked that women will be the majority in the hellfire! But looking at how the Friday prayer is conducted, this cannot be so, for as you said you do not attend it and those who attend it do not observe it according to the Sunna. So why not be independent and save yourself from the hellfire from the misinterpretation of the Sunna by the dominated males? Imagine the Muslims accusing Allah and indirectly Muhammad of the problem they are facing today. They keep on saying that it is 'Addua' that will solve conflicts and that it is only when Allah wishes that we can live in peace. Is there any 'Maharim al Lisaan' more than this? We need another voice to challenge misinterpretation of the holy Qur'an since no male is listened to.

 

Friendship.




Posted By: Abu Loren
Date Posted: 12 November 2012 at 3:58am
Originally posted by Friendship

So, by the time women participate in making sermons on Friday on what is their right and how to contribute in world affairs, to challenge the misinterpretation given to the Sunna by man, there will be some sense of decency in the world. The Friday prayer simulates the Day of Judgment when everyone will stand alone to render his account and when everyone will be asked to read his book. You have heard how you are mocked that women will be the majority in the hellfire! But looking at how the Friday prayer is conducted, this cannot be so, for as you said you do not attend it and those who attend it do not observe it according to the Sunna. So why not be independent and save yourself from the hellfire from the misinterpretation of the Sunna by the dominated males? Imagine the Muslims accusing Allah and indirectly Muhammad of the problem they are facing today. They keep on saying that it is 'Addua' that will solve conflicts and that it is only when Allah wishes that we can live in peace. Is there any 'Maharim al Lisaan' more than this? We need another voice to challenge misinterpretation of the holy Qur'an since no male is listened to. 

Friendship.

 
I know you have addressed this to Nausheen but I just can't sit here and accept your ever increasing weirdness.
 
MEN AND WOMEN ARE NOT EQUAL. A man has a penis and a woman has a vagina, in what way are they equal? Mother Eve was created from the rib of Father Adam, how are they equal? Women were made FOR men.
 
The friday prayer are not obligatory for women but for men. Attending congregation is not obligatory for women but for men. There is a good reason for the and Allah Subhana Wa Ta'ala who created us knows that a woman has duties that she needs to perform at home such as household chores and looking after the children.
 
It is crystal clear from the Hadith of the Prophet (pbuh) that the majorit of the occupants of hell will be women and now you want to change that Hadith?
 
Abu Hurairah narrated that the Messenger of Allah(s.a.w) said:
"When your leaders are the best of you, the richest are the most generous among you, and your affairs are consulted among you, then the surface of the earth is better for you than its belly. And when your leaders are the worst of you, the richest are the stingiest among you, and your affairs are referred to your women, then the belly of the earth is better for you than its surface."
 
Usamah bin Zaid (May Allah be pleased with them) reported:
The Prophet (sallallahu%20alaihi%20wa%20sallam) said, "I am not leaving behind me a more harmful trial for men than women".

Ibn 'Abbas and 'Imran bin Al-Husain (May Allah be pleased with them) reported:
The Prophet (sallallahu%20alaihi%20wa%20sallam) said, "I looked into Jannah and saw that most of its dwellers are the poor; and I looked into Hell and saw that most of its inmates were women."

 
Ibn 'Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) said:
The Prophet (sallallahu%20alaihi%20wa%20sallam) said, "O women folk! You should give charity and be diligent in seeking Allah's forgiveness because I have seen (i.e., on the Night of the Ascension to the highest heavens) that dwellers of the Hell are women." A woman amongst them said: "Why is it that the majority of the dwellers of Hell are women?" The Prophet (sallallahu%20alaihi%20wa%20sallam) replied, "You curse frequently and are ungrateful to your husbands. In spite of your lacking in wisdom and failing in religion, you are depriving the wisest of men of their intelligence." Upon this the woman asked: "What is the deficiency in our wisdom and in our religion?" He (sallallahu%20alaihi%20wa%20sallam) replied, "Your lack of wisdom can be well judged from the fact that the evidence of two women is equal to that one man. You do not offer Salat (prayer) for some days and you do not fast (the whole of) Ramadan sometimes, it is a deficiency in religion."

 
It was narrated that Abu Bakrah said:
"Allah protected me with something that I heard from the Messenger of Allah [SAW]. When Chosroes died, he said: 'Whom have they appointed as his successor?' They said: 'His daughter.' He said: 'No people will ever prosper who entrust their leadership to a woman.'"


Posted By: Nausheen
Date Posted: 14 November 2012 at 3:23am
Originally posted by Friendship

Assalamu alaiki Naausheen.

WaAlaika Assalam.
 
If you don't mind, are you akhi or Ukhti? I did not care till your recent post.

Originally posted by Friendship

You have asked a very important question. I am sure you know that it is Muhammad Rasulullah who freed women from bondage for he made them equal to man and demanded special care for them.

Not sure in what sense you call men and women as equals. If it is pertaining to the worship of Allah, then yes. However not all kinds of worship are demanded from everyone, or at all times or at all places.
We know that when the prayer time enters then performing the salah is obedience, however when the sun is on its zenith then abstaining from salah is obedience.
 
Men and women are created very different and the kind of obedience demanded from them is also different in many respects. For a man, the best salah is one which is offered in a masjid, however for a woaman the best salah is one which is offered in her own chambers.

Originally posted by Friendship

All what women are looking for has been provided by them, had it not been that much of the Sunna is misinterpreted to the point of accusing you of indecency the moment you step your foot outside your compartment.

I dont think this is an absolute case. There have been women scholars in all times, including our own times. If someone wrongly accuses me of indecency, I simply do not have to pay attention to him. I'd regard him as ignorant and leave him to his own views as long as he does not hinder me in any way.
 
There are men and women scholars in our times who we can benefit from. There are people even today, alhamdulillah who are making an impact in teaching the correct interpretaion of the sharia and quran.
 
Originally posted by Friendship

Imagine the much over emphasis on Hijab etc while the best Hijab is education.
Would you please elaborate a little on best hijab being education. I do not really unerstand your metaphor.

Originally posted by Friendship

Anyway, I was attracted by argument of Dr Yusuf Ali Badyawi  in his introduction of the book: Women in Islam: Al-qadaayah wal fatawaah by  Sayyadita Raym Nash Khayyat. He said:

 

والمعروف انا الرجل فى الآعم الآغلب هو الذى يكتب فى موضع المرأة، ويتحدث عنها، حين بقيت المرأة منعزلة حتى عن ميدان التعبير عن حقوقها ومتطلبا تها واسا سيات حياتها.

 

Explanation: By and large, the man have dominated women in that they have taken over the sole responsibility on telling them in the arena of what is their right, the course they should take in recognizing Allah and Muhammad Rasulullah and how to manage their affairs.

What do you mean by the domination of men? Are you referring to the muftis who give fatwas, or religious scholars in general. Or does this mean somthing totally different?

Originally posted by Friendship

So, by the time women participate in making sermons on Friday on what is their right and how to contribute in world affairs, to challenge the misinterpretation given to the Sunna by man, there will be some sense of decency in the world.

Woudld like to differ with your views here. I dont think women need to give Friday sermons to bring sense of decency to the world. If they educate themselves, their children and their community, they can very much bring sense to the world. Like I said previously, there have been religious female scholars in all times - they never needed a mosque of their own or a friday sermon to preach Allah's word.

 

Originally posted by Friendship

The Friday prayer simulates the Day of Judgment when everyone will stand alone to render his account and when everyone will be asked to read his book.

Friday prayers are not wajib for women - do I have to act like a man to enter paradise?

 

Originally posted by Friendship

You have heard how you are mocked that women will be the majority in the hellfire!

Why do you think this hadith is wrong? What is your daleel?
 

 

Originally posted by Friendship

But looking at how the Friday prayer is conducted, this cannot be so, for as you said you do not attend it and those who attend it do not observe it according to the Sunna. So why not be independent and save yourself from the hellfire from the misinterpretation of the Sunna by the dominated males?

To save oneself from the hellfire and the misinterpretation of those males who are misguided, just reject them - how is that so complicated?
 
There are plenty of men and women who are not misguided, and not misguiding. Do your own research and study under the scholarship of those who are authentic.
 

 


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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.



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