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Forum Name: Asia-Pacific
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URL: http://www.IslamiCity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=232
Printed Date: 22 October 2014 at 7:06am


Topic: Muslims in Australia
Posted By: Rehmat
Subject: Muslims in Australia
Date Posted: 26 March 2005 at 12:53am

To be in ‘good book’ of the US and England, the ASIO Bill was first introduced in early 2002, following the tragedy of September 11, to allow the Australian security agency, ASIO, to hold and question any person, including children, incommunicado, effectively indefinitely, without access to a lawyer. It was part of a major worldwide crackdown on ‘terrorism’.

 

The Howard Government's recent amendments to lift the age from 14 to 16 years old, to limit interrogation to 24 hours over 7 days, or allow limited access to a lawyer subjected to ASIO scrutiny were no consolation. There is a growing fear the new legislation will only allow ASIO a legal basis for further harassment, set-up and jailing of people of the Muslim faith.

 

According to a representative of, from the Islamic Council of Victoria (ICV), the new laws will be used to discriminate against individuals in the Islamic community.

 

Speaking to ABC’s Rachel Carbonell on ‘The World Today’ (ABC, 17 June 2003), Goolam Laher said that as a peak Islamic representative group, the ICV, was concerned that this piece of legislation was being introduced at a time when the Islamic community was being marginalised and being treated and labelled as terrorist.

 

Even before the ASIO Bill, Muslims around Australia have reported increased levels of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim prejudice, discrimination and vilification, resulting in fear, isolation and uncertainty.

 

With fresh media allegations linking Muslims with ‘terrorism’, and the passing of the ASIO Bill, the ASIO is now on the loose; free to target Muslims at will, even if they have not broken any law. ASIO will not be obligated to inform the arrested persons why they are being detained.

Violent raids, interrogations and surveillance of those labelled or stereotyped as ‘terrorists’ by ASIO and the Australian Federal Police (AFP), especially since September 11, had made the community unsafe, particularly for Muslims.

Under the ASIO Bill, security agents will be allowed to break into Muslims’ homes or snatch Muslims from their workplace for interrogation at any given time for interrogation for seven days. All of this will be merely on the basis that Muslims may have crucial information.

Muslims will be jailed for up to five years if they refuse to assist security agents, and they will be denied the right to lawyer, unless approved by ASIO. And no contact with family or friends will be permitted during the seven-day interrogation/detention. Legally Muslims will have no such rights as the right to silence and the presumption of innocence.

Even when represented, Muslims will be restricted both in terms of the choice and the role of the lawyer. ASIO will be empowered to limit or even bar the involvement of the lawyer during interrogation.

The so-called concessions will not be enough to safeguard to protect Muslim rights. The peak Islamic organizations are totally naïve into thinking that making occasional statements or expressing their concern would somehow be enough to safeguard the rights of Muslims of Australia.

A grass-root movement to take up the issue of Muslim rights is the only viable option. And Muslims should do that for themselves.

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Know your enemy!
No time to waste. Act now!
Tomorrow it will be too late
What You Don’t Know Can Kill You




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Posted By: kim!
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 10:19pm

Yeah, and many of us tried to vote Howard out of office last year, but it didn't work.

Unfortunately, as the Australian population gets older and older and more conservative (just like much of the rest of the Western world), we might guess that things are, unfortunately, not going to be changing much. All we can hope is that much of the Australian population decides to mature and accept that not all Muslims are terrorists.

Having said that, some groups of Muslims need to change their attitudes - and I only mean the extremist ones. Don't bomb us, for starters. We won't be so angry then. Don't rape our women either - since we often think that Islamic groups are dreadfully misogynistic, then we will punish you more than usual in order to imprint on you that we NOT support such sexism.

Do you see what I mean? I _know_ that our perceived general impression of Muslims is not good and often not correct, but it's out there and it's not just our behaviour that needs to be modified.

Kim... 



Posted By: kim!
Date Posted: 17 April 2005 at 10:21pm

And Australians are not ignorant of everything that's going on:

 

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/515/515p7.htm - http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/2002/515/515p7.htm



Posted By: Rehmat
Date Posted: 18 April 2005 at 3:44am

Originally posted by kim!

And Australians are not ignorant of everything that's going on:

And how does that help the Muslims around the world? Is not Australia's Zionist Occupied Government always behind the other anti-Muslim governments, such as the US, England, Israel - to invade defenceless Muslim countries and involved in killing millions of innocent Muslims in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bosnia, etc.?

And finally listen a 'Muslim Voice' in Australia:

http://www.islam.org.au/editions/jul2003/english/index.htm - http://www.islam.org.au/editions/jul2003/english/index.htm

 



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Know your enemy!
No time to waste. Act now!
Tomorrow it will be too late
What You Don’t Know Can Kill You



Posted By: Rehmat
Date Posted: 18 April 2005 at 8:35am

I just received a beautiful Australian women website from a female poster who have converted to Islam recently and posts under 'Nada' ID on another site.

http://www.mwa.org.au/ - http://www.mwa.org.au/

Just thought I share it with Muslimahs on this forum.



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Know your enemy!
No time to waste. Act now!
Tomorrow it will be too late
What You Don’t Know Can Kill You



Posted By: kim!
Date Posted: 18 April 2005 at 5:00pm

Right. I'm so sick of this "Zionist" rubbish.

I am going to try to ignore any posts that contain mention of Zionist conspiracies. As far as I'm concerned, it's just an excuse to ignore one's own faults and an excuse to avoid introspection and self-discipline.

I can't guarantee I will succeed, but I'm going to give it a good try.

Kim...

 

 



Posted By: Rehmat
Date Posted: 18 April 2005 at 6:46pm
Originally posted by kim!

Right. I'm so sick of this "Zionist" rubbish.

I am going to try to ignore any posts that contain mention of Zionist conspiracies. As far as I'm concerned, it's just an excuse to ignore one's own faults and an excuse to avoid introspection and self-discipline.

I can't guarantee I will succeed, but I'm going to give it a good try.

Kim...

Hey if you think that by c;osing your eyes - the Zionist Devil will go away - I wish all the luck - though professor Israel Shamir and professor Noam Chomsky (both US Jews) are going to curse me for living in 'self-denial'.



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Know your enemy!
No time to waste. Act now!
Tomorrow it will be too late
What You Don’t Know Can Kill You




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