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Topic: Black Holes
Posted By: peacemaker
Subject: Black Holes
Date Posted: 14 September 2011 at 3:50am
 
http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/home.html - http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/home.html
 
"Black holes are places where ordinary gravity has become so extreme that it overwhelms all other forces in the Universe. Once inside, nothing can escape a black hole's gravity not even light."


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Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
Qur'an 55:13



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Posted By: nothing
Date Posted: 23 July 2012 at 2:49pm
The first astronomer who calculated the existence of black hole as the centre of the milky-way galaxy won a price, I think it was one million dollars.The nearest star that orbiting it runs like 20 millions km per hour or something.

Fascinating find.


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 8:43am
Well, quantum mechanics makes it possible for particles to escape after all...



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 3:41pm
Originally posted by Matt Browne

Well, quantum mechanics makes it possible for particles to escape after all...



Has everyone watched The Fabric of the Cosmos?  It's a must see.


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 25 July 2012 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by peacemaker

 
http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/home.html - http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/home.html
 
"Black holes are places where ordinary gravity has become so extreme that it overwhelms all other forces in the Universe. Once inside, nothing can escape a black hole's gravity not even light."


And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 ... and God divided the light from the darkness.

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In the beginning was a void...

sometimes I think perhaps we are the intruders... the light invades the dark... the void

and so sets up the opposing forces, one calling itself good and calling the other bad...

and to the void, shall we be returned one day?

Just some things I think about. Smile



Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 4:04am
Sometimes myths contain elements that by chance sound similar to what modern science has found out. The wonderful creation myth in Genesis even predates Judaism.

But all of this took 13.7 billion years, not six days. Besides, how do you define day before having a rotating planet.




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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 28 July 2012 at 10:14am
Originally posted by Matt Browne

Sometimes myths contain elements that by chance sound similar to what modern science has found out. The wonderful creation myth in Genesis even predates Judaism.

But all of this took 13.7 billion years, not six days. Besides, how do you define day before having a rotating planet.

 
I think myth, as you call it, is that knowing that we have inside of us that comes from the One who created us.
 
Romans 1:19 Smile


Posted By: galaxytablet
Date Posted: 05 September 2012 at 3:23am
Yah that's right.I agree with Caringheart words...


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 6:28am
Many people interpret the word myth as something that isn't true, like in "it's a myth that Germans have no sense of humor". But I meant myth as a symbolic narrative with a deeper meaning. Myths are different from historic events.


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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Caringheart
Date Posted: 11 September 2012 at 2:43pm
Hi Matt,
I wasn't disagreeing with you, just making a personal observation.  Myths have to come from somewhere.  ;-)


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 20 September 2012 at 6:38am
Yes, myths come from oral traditions and people who were looking for answers to the great many why questions.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: nemesis23
Date Posted: 24 October 2012 at 1:27pm
This is the thing, that science actually doesn't understand completely. Very many questions remains unsolved. For example - what is on the other side of that black hole? Where that black matter goes, and from where it comes..?

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Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 13 November 2012 at 9:01am
Nemesis, black holes are not about black matter or dark matter. And you mean, what is beyond the event horizon, right? We can only speculate. Real matter photons compressed very densely. Black holes can suck in new matter coming too close to it. Black holes also evaporate because of quantum effects.



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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Mohammad Shafiq
Date Posted: 19 November 2012 at 4:53am
Black holes are imaginery concepts which emerged as the consequence of space-time concept put forward by Einstein which changed the paradigm of physical sciences under which existence of God is impossible. Now Einstein paradigm of physical sciences is virtual atheism at the physical level. Einstein's space-time concept has been shown to be incorrect and consequently openly challenged on the basis of published articles. Open challenge is on World Science Database & General Science Journal
http://www.worldsci.org/php/index.php?tab0=Abstracts&tab1=Display&id=6476&tab=2 - -
index.php?tab0=Abstracts&tab1=D - isplay&id=6476&tab=2 and also on.
http://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Essays/View/4018 - - Science-Journals/Essays/View/ - 4018


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 20 November 2012 at 12:06am
When the word atheism creeps into "scientific" statements, it is very clear the statement has a hidden agenda.

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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt


Posted By: Mohammad Shafiq
Date Posted: 20 November 2012 at 11:04pm
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt   
This is a foolish statement as individuals (people) cause events and individuals give ideas. Discussion about ideas is possible with reference to the person who gives it.


Posted By: Matt Browne
Date Posted: 23 November 2012 at 2:31am
Not necessarily, Mohammad Shafiq. We can discuss the ideas of ecology or secularism, for example, without linking these ideas to concrete persons. What Ms. Roosevelt meant was that it's more important to discuss general relativity than the peculiarities of Albert Einstein's daily life. Gossip about celebrities doesn't have much value.

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A religion that's intolerant of other religions can't be the world's best religion --Abdel Samad
Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people--Eleanor Roosevelt



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