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$60bn Saudi arms deal. A challenge to Ulama'

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Topic: $60bn Saudi arms deal. A challenge to Ulama'
Posted By: Friendship
Subject: $60bn Saudi arms deal. A challenge to Ulama'
Date Posted: 13 September 2010 at 11:52pm
Assalamu alaikum.

Pentagon to notify Congress of $60bn Saudi arms deal

Ponder! Yes, the Muslim Umma will justify this arms deal quoting holy Qur'an chapter 8:60, "And make ready against them all you can of power, including steeds of war to threaten the enemy of Allah, and others besides them...And whatever you shall spend in the Cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you, and you shall not be treated unjustly."
2. The hadith of the holy Apostle, "When there is turmoil or disquiet the sales of arms is not allowed.
Questions:
1. There is no evidence from the Gazwa i.e. military expeditions of the holy Apostle, the application of this verse. Think of the battle of Hunayn and the Tabuk expedition.
2. How can one balance chapter 8:60  with chapter 2:249, "How often a small group overcame a mighty host by Allah's leave?"
3. Who are the enemies of Allah the Saudis are going to fight?  If Allah forbade the Northern and Southern Kingdoms of the divided Kingdom of Solomon from fighting each other, how could Allah allow this in his Last Message?
Friendship.




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Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 14 September 2010 at 10:20am
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Pure and simple.


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 14 September 2010 at 11:28am
Assalamu alaikum.

Or rather a healthy hypocrisy! Please explain not all of us read literature.
Friendship


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 14 September 2010 at 12:35pm
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2009/04/louis-freeh-interview.html - http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2009/04/louis-freeh-interview.html
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQpiu1yOxzs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQpiu1yOxzs


Posted By: Friendship
Date Posted: 15 September 2010 at 4:16pm
Assalamu alaikum.

Imagine the custodian of the holy Mosques unable to implement the Sunna and Shari'a of Muhammad Rasulullah. Is actually Allah serious when He says in Qur'an chapter 9:17, "it is not for the Mushrikun (disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah), to maintain the Mosques of Allah (i.e. to pray and worship Allah therein, to look after their cleanliness and their building), while they witness against their ownselves of disbelief." Abuayisa, please ask your teacher the application if Allah had said Mushrikin. Thank you very much.
Friendship.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2009/04/louis-freeh-interview.html - http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/bribe/2009/04/louis-freeh-interview.html
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQpiu1yOxzs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQpiu1yOxzs


The illigimates more often behave not unlike the way Bandar does! Have watched  the antics of this monkey face( talking about the hanky panky of Adam and Eve) far longer than I care to remember say ever since he was sent to represent his philandering clan in the Beltway!

His mother Khizaran was an illiterate sixteen-year-old servant from Libya for his father. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan#cite_note-pbs-1 - [2] Bandar, an only child, has said she was Sultan's "concubine". He lived with her and his aunt. He is recognized as royalty because King Abdul Aziz personally named him and his 20-year-old father admitted he was his father. He was largely isolated from the royal family. He entered his father's bedroom for the first time when he was eight. He and his mother moved to his paternal grandmother's palace. His mother later taught herself to read and write. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan#cite_note-theprince-2 - [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan#cite_note-saudi-us-relations.org-3 - [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandar_bin_Sultan#cite_note-saudi-us-relations.org-3 - [4]

If you step back think it is quite simple just as the Christians are stuck with the Yahood so are the Muzlums stuck with the Sauds!  A while back someone who worked at US Embassy in SA mentioned a common refrain the Yahood and Sauds are same but yahood a bit better!
One has to step back and think what was the characteristics that endeared FDR to the old man Saud when they met on USS Quincy on 2/14/45... The Yahoodi Morgenthau was his secretary of treasury active in foreign policy and knew what was Arabia sitting on! Sauds can have all the fun, but the excess belongs to the US; they dump whatever on the tab...what and how would they know? Billions, Trillions are meaningless if you haven't earned it! Black money, Black Market, Sub Prime, Arbitrage and MBSs are all the instruments of mammon worship...yahood and saud belong in the same temple! Allah talks about them quite clear terms and then some in His revelations but people in bondage don't like to reflect cuz it hurts to wake their souls!


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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by abuayisha

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Pure and simple.


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Yea pure sugar, too many calories and mostly from simple fat!LOL

How about Mafioso style Protection money to lube the gun factories of the MIC!


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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.



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