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Topic: Islamic Clothing?
Posted By: flameburns623
Subject: Islamic Clothing?
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 4:58pm
Hi, Folks!
 
I'm planning on dressing as a Muslim for Hallowe'en. (No, not as a terrorist, just as someone from an Islamic country). I've found sites for a dishdasha and a Jalabiya. Apparently, the dishdasha is something of an undergarment (although it can be worn as outerwear around the house); and the Jalabiya is worn as outerwear in public. Yes? No?
 
Anyhow--how long should these garments be? I'm 6'00", and it looks as if my shoulder height is about 58" to 60". Should the garments be worn all the way down to the ankle, 'breaking' at the foot? Or should they be slightly longer, brushing the ground. (I am assuming they aren't properly worn short enough to expose the ankle or the calf?) I've only seen these garments on TV so sorry--I just don't know what they're supposed to look like.
 
Thanks for any advice!



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Posted By: JihadX
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 5:39pm
As Salamu Alaikum!!
I am doing the same but I am indeed Muslim. I will wear my Dishasha and Keffiyeh in school. With all the hatred for muslims in the west it will be sort of an disguise because everyone will be dresing different. I wear dishasha now on weekends and whenever i go to Masjid. I think wearing it in school will be fun. I am also 6'0 and I wear it to the ankle. i know that this is acceptable. If you are not muslim i think that you shouldn't over do it because it makes me angry to see a christian or an individual of another religion wearing keffiyeh especially.


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Posted By: flameburns623
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 8:17pm
Here are the items I'm thinking of getting, just so that you know what I mean when I refer to 'Islamic clothing':
 
 

http://www.hilalplaza.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=562">

 
http://www.hilalplaza.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=304">
 
Hope that clarifies things. As I say, these are just intended as a Hallowe'en outfit, to go along with the 'Islamic' hat ( a round thing with a flat top--don't know what it is called, sorry) that I bought in a thrift store for .75 cents


Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 8:57pm
Is this a joke?


Posted By: flameburns623
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:02pm
No.
 
Why would you think it was?


Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 9:04am
Originally posted by JihadX

As Salamu Alaikum!!
 If you are not muslim i think that you shouldn't over do it because it makes me angry to see a christian or an individual of another religion wearing keffiyeh especially.
 
Why? Why should that make you angry? Perhaps because you want to be different, and the only one doing so? Do you own the islamic dress code? Btw, the clothes u describe are culturally/traditionally arabic. An Indian sherwani, or Pakistani shalwar qameez can be just as 'islamic'.
 
I would be happy to see a non-muslim sister wear a hijab, even if shes 'trying' it out. How do you know if perhaps looking into and trying 'islamic' clothing might actually be a stepping stone towards faith?
 
One should not say things like that. Rather, if your classmates are interested in your clothing, no harm in telling them about it and reccommending it . . . Muslims are supposed to be easy-going, friendly ppl. And we dont 'own' islam . . .everyone has a right to benefit from it, try it out.
 
As long as nobody is using Islamic symbols (such as dress) to malign Islam, or make fun of it, etc - no harm in anyone trying it.
 
Sorry if I sounded rude/harsh . . .I didnt mean to. Just wanted to make a point.
 
 


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Posted By: Gulliver
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:46am

I think they're teens. Par for the course.

I thought taking part in pagan festivals was haram.  I think he/she gets angry 'cause it might seem like mockery of something precious to him/her. Understandable to a degree.

Samhain is an old Celtic festival. So you're all gonna burn in hell for even thinking to celebrate it ;-)

The town were I live has had one of the biggest Halloween celebrations in Europe for about ten years. I dress up as a hen and lay eggs.  The mind boggles.  LOL ;-)

 

http://inventors.about.com/od/sstartinventions/a/Samhain.htm - http://inventors.about.com/od/sstartinventions/a/Samhain.htm



Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:50am
Yes, Thanks for pointing that out Gulliver . . . Halloween is a pagan festival that both Muslims and Christians alike should not be celebrating.

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"O Lord, forgive me, my parents and Muslims in the Hereafter. O Lord, show mercy on them as they showed mercy to me when I was young."


Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 11:20am
Salam,
 
Where are you lacated?
 
Here some http://www.islamicity.com/yellowpages/action.lasso.asp?-Search=search&-database=Services&-Table=yellowpages&-noresultserror=search.asp&-Response=search.asp&-MaxRecords=10&-SortField=Promolevel&-SortOrder=descending&-SortField=businessname&-SortOrder=ascending&-op=eq&Publish=X&-op=cn&search=clothing&-op=cn&city=&-op=cn&State=&-op=tz&zip=&-tokendistance=3&-op=cn&areacode=&-op=cn&country=&-op=cn&subcategory=&-Search.x=12&-Search.y=3 - islamic clothing stores  you might find that clsoe to your place and take a look.
 


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Salam/Peace,
Semar
The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full"
"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"


Posted By: flameburns623
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 11:32am
Actually, Hallowe'en is a secular holiday inspired by a pair of Christian festivals--the word means "Eve of All Saints", and is sometimes known as "All Soul's Day".  It is a day commemorating the departed of all kinds, followed on November 1 by a day celebrating those who are the Saints of God. Chirstians have often joined these days of honoring the departed to a festival thanking God for the conclusion of the harvest. (The American Thanksgiving Day is another such festival giving thanks for a successful harvest). Many Protestant Christians also honor October 31st as Reformation Day, the day that Martin Luther reputedly nailed his 95 Theses to the door of the Wittenburg Church.
 
The pagan festival is called Samhain, and was traditionally celebrated during the FIRST THREE DAYS of the 'Harvest Month'--or, according to the Roman/Christian calendar, the first three days of October. Samhain probably was a way of both celebrating many of the first-fruits of the annual harvests AND a way of beseeching the gods and goddesses for a good conclusion to the harvest. Remember that the foods harvested at the end of the harvest were usually the foods that the farmers would be relying upon to last them through the winter, and to serve as seed for the following year's palnting.
 
Some of the superstitions and customs of Samhain cleaved to the the festivals of All Soul's Day and All Saint's Day. For example, the notion that restless souls walk the earth on the night of Hallowe'en derive from the old pagan notion that spirits or deities had special power to manifest themselves during the festival of Samhain, and can beleaguer anyone who does not pay those souls tribute. Hence the traditions of dressing children up as goblins and ghosts and sending them door-to-door for "Trick or Treat". Certainly the custom of deliberately honoring gross wickedness (horror films, Satanic motifs, and so forth) are things that Christians should avoid.  
 
That said, most of the customs of Hallowe'en are innocuous. Costumes and the like are in no wise contrary to the spirit of Christianity; and joy and thankfulness are virtues to which Christians are called at all times. Christianity enjoys festivals and celbrations of all kinds. There is a lot of discussion among Christians as to how or if to celebrate Hallowe'en, but only the most fundamentalist of Christians absolutely proscribe it in all forms.
 
See the following links:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween
 
And by the way--I am not a teenager. I'm approaching 50 years old, in fact.


Posted By: flameburns623
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 11:34am
Originally posted by semar

Salam,
 
Where are you lacated?
 
Here some http://www.islamicity.com/yellowpages/action.lasso.asp?-Search=search&-database=Services&-Table=yellowpages&-noresultserror=search.asp&-Response=search.asp&-MaxRecords=10&-SortField=Promolevel&-SortOrder=descending&-SortField=businessname&-SortOrder=ascending&-op=eq&Publish=X&-op=cn&search=clothing&-op=cn&city=&-op=cn&State=&-op=tz&zip=&-tokendistance=3&-op=cn&areacode=&-op=cn&country=&-op=cn&subcategory=&-Search.x=12&-Search.y=3 - islamic clothing stores  you might find that clsoe to your place and take a look.
 
 
I'm in Illinois, near the City of St. Louis, Missouri.


Posted By: semar
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 2:25pm
I found this, you can call them they might know how you can find it or even
they might carry/sell:
 
Islamic Center of Greater St. Louis http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?country=USA&addtohistory=&address=3843%20West%20Pine%20Street&city=St.%20Louis&state=Missouri&zipcode=63108&homesubmit=Get+Map - Map It
Mosques
3843 West Pine Street
St. Louis - Missouri - 63108 - USA
(314) 534-9672


 


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Salam/Peace,
Semar
The Prophet said: "Do not eat before you are hungry, and stop eating before you are full"
"1/3 of your stomach for food 1/3 for water, 1/3 for air"


Posted By: imp87
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 3:51pm

I dont know how a modest clothing like an “Islamic” dress fits into the Halloween scene. But I hope that statment “not like a terrorist” was a sincere mistake or joke.  I hope you find the dress your looking for :)



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Posted By: flameburns623
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 4:20pm
Originally posted by imp87

I dont know how a modest clothing like an “Islamic” dress fits into the Halloween scene. But I hope that statment “not like a terrorist” was a sincere mistake or joke.  I hope you find the dress your looking for :)

 
A lot of Americans this year will dress up like Osama bin Laden or like some run-of-the-mill Arab terrorist. That's NOT what I plan to do. I'm just going to dress like an Arab and carry arround a fake plastic oil barrel. The joke being that it is the price of oil that is the 'scary' part. I could dress like a Texan and achieve the same effect, but I've got the Muslim hat so why not go for the whole costume?
 
People dress up as all kinds of things at Hallowe'en, not always to be scary, often to be funny or silly. People who like Barack Obama will dress up like Obama this year, to honor him in a humorous way. People who DON'T like Barack Obama will dress up like him as well--to mock him. In both cases the purpose would be a bit of political humor. That's my point as well, to show a little humor. I'm not trying to be disrespectful of Islam. I'm not going to carry a Qu'ran around or yell "Allah akbar" or whatever. Mocking the religion of Islam itself would be in bad taste even in a Hallowe'en party where no one present has ever met a Muslim. I'n not gonna do that. Hope that's clear.


Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:43pm
Flameburn this is a st**id idea and I'll tell you why.
 
The presumption of wearing Islamic dress especially since Islam along with Muslims or anything associated with Islam carries a negative connotation to it, you'll just perpetuate a common stereotype. I mean to associate anything with Islam such as the common garbs worn by Middle Easterners will only make it all the more insulting.


Posted By: Shasta'sAunt
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 10:15am
"or like some run-of-the-mill Arab terrorist."
 
I'm not sure I know what these look like. I guess I can drive around on Halloween to be enlightened?


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Posted By: Chrysalis
Date Posted: 09 October 2008 at 11:02pm
Originally posted by flameburns623

 
There is a lot of discussion among Christians as to how or if to celebrate Hallowe'en, but only the most fundamentalist of Christians absolutely proscribe it in all forms.
 
 
Hmm. So shouldnt all Christians try and be fundamentalists? i.e. follow the fundamentals.
 
Also, Halloween has no christian roots whatsoever. It has 'pagan' origination. It is not related to the 'All Saints Day' it simply precedes it, i.e. occurs in the same duration, rather before it. Both are not linked. Its just a pagan festival that happens to occur before the Christian festival. 
 
MSN Encarta:
 
Hallowe'en, name applied to the evening of October 31, preceding the Christian feast of Hallowmas, Allhallows, or http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761560500/All_Saints_Day.html - All Saints' Day . The observances connected with Hallowe'en are thought to have originated among the ancient http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761554223/Druidism.html - Druids , who believed that on that evening, Saman, the lord of the dead, called forth hosts of evil spirits. The Druids customarily lit great fires on Hallowe'en, apparently for the purpose of warding off all these spirits. Among the ancient Celts, Hallowe'en was the last evening of the year and was regarded as a propitious time for examining the portents of the future. The Celts also believed that the spirits of the dead revisited their earthly homes on that evening. After the Romans conquered Britain, they added to Hallowe'en features of the Roman harvest festival held on November 1 in honour of http://uk.encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_762509735/Pomona_%28mythology%29.html - Pomona , goddess of the fruits of trees.
 
So, yea it is all about how spirits/dead return. . . and was also in honour of pagan gods.
 


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Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 24 October 2008 at 5:01pm
Originally posted by Israfil

Flameburn this is a st**id idea and I'll tell you why.
 
The presumption of wearing Islamic dress especially since Islam along with Muslims or anything associated with Islam carries a negative connotation to it, you'll just perpetuate a common stereotype. I mean to associate anything with Islam such as the common garbs worn by Middle Easterners will only make it all the more insulting.
 
 
I agree with Israfil.
 
Flameburn, I have to ask: Why?


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Posted By: mariyah
Date Posted: 27 October 2008 at 11:09pm

Salaams...Peace be to you

Sure it may not be cool to dress as a muslim if you are not one.
I think it is kind of you to even ask if it would be OK...That show that you are thoughtful and courteous...
As for participating in Halloween, no thank you!
In Mexico, it is associated with El Dia De Los Muertos, a festival that goes for 3 days. A lot of calaveras, if you look at these web pages you can see where some of the influence for halloween came from
 
http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/muertos.html - http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/muertos.html


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Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 28 October 2008 at 12:24am
El Dia De Los Muertos
 
You may wanna translate that. for those of you that don't know spanish it means "The day of the dead."



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