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Category: Religion - Islam
Forum Name: General Islamic Matter
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Printed Date: 22 October 2014 at 2:37am


Topic: Inter-Marriages
Posted By: ruzhan
Subject: Inter-Marriages
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 12:01am

Assalaamualaikum,

I would like to know what does Islam says about marriage between a Muslim man and Christian woman, base on the Quran and Hadith? Please quote the exact verse/surah from the Quran and sources from the Hadith. Appreciate your contribution!

Jazaka Allah

Ruzhan

 

 




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Posted By: seekshidayath
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 6:09am

Wa'alaikum As'Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,

Here is the fifth verse from Surah Al- Mai'dah Am just pasting it here below

“Made lawful to you this day are At‑Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girlfriends. And whosoever disbelieves in Faith, [i.e. in the Oneness of Allaah and in all the other Articles of Faith i.e. His (Allah’s) Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al‑Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work; and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers

Please do go thru its commentaries too.

I wish you to remind this hadith too

Narrated by al-Bukhari & Muslim as well

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “A woman may be married for four reasons: her wealth, her lineage, her beauty and her religious commitment. Choose the one who is religious, may your hands be rubbed with dust [i.e., may you prosper].” "

This hadeeth encourages keeping company with people who are religiously committed in all things, because the one who keeps company with them will benefit from their good attitude and morals, their blessing and their good ways, and he will be safe from mischief at their hands.  Am not contradicting the verse, Its permisibble to marry christian woman, but i just wanted you to remind which is highlighted in the hadith.



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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."


Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 8:04am

 

 Ruzhan, you have been given the correct report by Seekshidayath from the Quran and Sunnah as you had aksed for. The references are also there. That is the correct report / reply.

 It is permissible to marry the chaste ladies from the christians (Verse 5:5). It is necessary to marry them and not to keep them as girl friends or concubines. That is a permission from Allah.

 There are social problems to look after. The marriage may last for a long time or it may suffer hardship. It depends on the intentions. When children will be born and grow up, they will not know which way to go. They may be lost in doubts by travelling in two boats at the same time. But these things have nothing to do with your question. Your question has been answered, I hope.



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If any one is bad some one must suffer


Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 10:09am
as muslim MAN am i allowed to marry woman from the race of JINN

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awal


Posted By: layalee
Date Posted: 27 January 2008 at 10:23pm
poga, care to share what exactly is the 'race of jinn'? or what individuals make up this race?


Posted By: ruzhan
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 4:44am

Assalaamualakum,

Thanks for the reply and the quoted verse and hadith!

A few more queries abt this topic:

1. With regards to the Quranic verse, some may argue that the Christians referred to, are not the same as Christians nowadays who believe in the doctrine of trinity ie after the doctrine of trinity been established.

2. Do you have any comments/fatwa/thoughts by some of our religious scholars, both classical and contemporary on this topic ie inter-religious marriage?

Jazaka Allah

Ruzhan

 

 

 



Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 5:08am
Ruzhan,

There is only one argument that I can make for question 1.

The Quran was revealed during the 7th Century.  That means that the Christians of the Time of Muhammed (pbuh) were already steeped in the heresies of the Trinity. 

The Christians of the time of the Revelations of the Quran are the Christians of Today.  As I was raised in the Russian Orthodox Church, I can tell you that the Christians of the Arabian Peninsula were Chaldean, Coptic and other Old Orders.  They taught the Trinity, though they may have varied opinions on the exact nature of the Trinity. They taught Jesus to be the Son of God. 

The Trinity was established into Canonical Law in 325AD.  That's 300 years before the Quran.  One would argue from a purist point of view, if the Christians and Jews hadn't already strayed, there would have been no need for Muhammed (pbuh). 

As someone who comes from a Restorationist sect of Christianity, I have no problem pointing out that Christianity was already on the down slope by 600AD.

So, for Question 1.  If Christians are permissible by the Quran, its the same Christians as today.


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Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 5:31am

 

 That is the 100 % right reply from angela to question 1. Quran blames the christians of having three gods. The Quran tells the christians not to say that there are three (gods). In the matters of faith, Quran is at the top. Nothing can take away the facility that Allah has provided except any clear order or practice of the prophet s.a.w.s. But the prophet will also not do anything against the command of Allah.

 The Haram and Halal are only in the Quran by the Command of Allah. Next is the understanding or the practice of the prophet and his companions. The best one can do is to find out about the practice of the companions (Sahabah) if any of them used to marry the christian ladies. If they did then it is settled that there is no bar on such marriages. I have no knowledge of any Fatwa in favor or against such marriages.



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If any one is bad some one must suffer


Posted By: martha
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 6:21am

Regarding marriage to a non-muslim woman.

I am posting something from the book 'The Life of Muhammad'(pbuH) by Tahia Al-Ismail. page 230)

The marriage of Muhammad(pbuH) to Safiyya, a Jewess, then Maria, a copt, has tremendous importance in the history of Islam. It taught the muslims to be tolerant. If the Messenger of Allah himself had married once a Jewess and once a Christian, then all Jews and and all Christians were to be treated cordially as his in-laws. It wiped out bigotry and fanaticism from the muslim community once and for all...  The Qur'an decrees that there shall be no coercion in religion, and Muhammad(pbuH) taught it by these two unforgettable unions.

(page 231) If anyone should develop religious zeal against Christians and Jews,one could always point to the Messenger's being married, once to a Christian and once to a Jewess, and his memorable words in consequence, 'He who insults one of the people of the Book has insulted me'

Actually this book contains much to understand Islam in a simplistic way. Well worth a read.



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Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 28 January 2008 at 10:26am

Originally posted by layalee

poga, care to share what exactly is the 'race of jinn'? or what individuals make up this race?

ASSALAMUALAIKUM

I can but again i will be called names and when i answer back people will object

but this at least i will say that you and me we are JINN for pure ADAM you need to go JEWISH people but even there they too have been mutated



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awal


Posted By: Hayfa
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 7:56am

Martha,

 

Very good point.. at times the role model of the Prophet himself is lost. What did he do? If he married A jewish woman and a Chrsitian woman.. well..

Once you assert that they are of a faith it is then next best to assertain what does that mean to them. Are they nominally of that faith?  Its like a Muslim, yes you can marry people. But do search for piety first. The same would be true for Christian or Jewish women... are they pious, etc.



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When you do things from your soul, you feel a river moving in you, a joy. Rumi


Posted By: Israfil
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:03am
Why is this discussion about what men can have? We must take into consideration for the extermist on this site here that this choice (inter-marriage) is only for men.


Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 29 January 2008 at 8:11am
Originally posted by poga

Originally posted by layalee

poga, care to share what exactly is the 'race of jinn'? or what individuals make up this race?

ASSALAMUALAIKUM

I can but again i will be called names and when i answer back people will object

but this at least i will say that you and me we are JINN for pure ADAM you need to go JEWISH people but even there they too have been mutated

SWEETSWORDS 7 [ Gemini ]

BISMILLAH

By Poga Humayun Dundiwala

In my pure pious bacteria some evil satanic virus
They infest my carcass to pollute my soul
There are some fire breathing jinn inside my water bowl

In my pure pious thought some evil satanic sin
They put advanced arguments in topic too thin
The thin line of good and bad slightly insane or completely mad

Poga Say's in a foolington maze

Elementary pleasure and peril and compound of man
Elementary good and evil and combination of human
Elementary senses and smell of fear
Screaming vision and silent ear

Elementary pleasure and peril
Erotic Eros and deadly azraeel
Dance of Shiva and dust of Madan
In pleasure of Eden or peril of abaddon

 



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awal


Posted By: Angela
Date Posted: 31 January 2008 at 11:44pm
Originally posted by Israfil

Why is this discussion about what men can have? We must take into consideration for the extermist on this site here that this choice (inter-marriage) is only for men.


The reason is simply the Quran.  The Quran is very specific.  Men can marry Christians and Jews, Women can only marry other Muslims.

The debate is if the permission for men is still in place.

I can kind of understand the prohibition from marrying a non-Muslim man.  As a Mormon, the husband is the spiritual head of the house and the priesthood holder.  In every active worthy Mormon household, the father blesses the children, prays over the house, teaches the Gospel and is in charge of seeing to it that the children are raised in the Gospel.

In a Muslim household, this would be very similar.  The Husband/Father prays at the head of the family, is an example to his children and in charge of teachings his children Quran and Sunnah.

If a Muslim woman were to marry a Non-Muslim man, then the spiritual head of the family is another faith. 

I personally wouldn't suggest interfaith marriage to either side.  75% of all interfaith marriages fail.  Mine almost did.  It wasn't until I became Mormon that we didn't fight about faith and children.  I wanted to raise them Orthodox and he wanted to raise them Mormon.  We had all sorts of issues that would have had to been addressed had I not eventually become Mormon.

A Muslim/Christian marriage would have to deal with the nature of Christ, the Prophethood of Muhammed, dress codes, prayers, even food.  How can one parent teach the child that Jesus is the Son of God and Savior and the other parent say that he is only a Prophet and saying he's the Son of God is an unforgivable sin? 

In the end, the law of the Quran is such that Muslim Men can take non-Muslim wives.  Muslim women cannot take non-Muslim husbands.  So any debate would be more about men than women.


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Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 02 February 2008 at 6:20am

Be Aql : BARZAKH today at market
This woman gave me this leaflet
It Say's she is clairvoyant crystal gazer and astrologist
it Say's she knows the language of jinn and angel bird and beast
I know many other tabloid liars and reputable news papers they all have zodiac page
Dishonest con and honest sage
Tell me what is the fact here and what is the fib
Tell me about changing woman and immutable eve

Barzakh : By day star pen he writes upon night paper moon
Poem of light
The dark inky lampoon
He writes tale of colors by shining alphabet
He writes with dehumidified laser upon moon light wet

Be Aql : Abracadabra boogla boo
What is your point give us the clue
What is your question tell us oh phantom veil
Tell us your enlightening story your dark tale

Barzakh : Human cosmetic surgery and six million dollar man
Angelic cosmic surgery and MUHAMMAD sallel la hu alahi wa sallam THE SUPERMAN
One jumps from building to building to save the day
Other jumps from physical ATOM to divine ARSH  and paves the SIRATUL MUSTAQIM way
One is combination of organic flesh and mechanical bone
Other is combination of matter and antimatter the NURANI neutron

Be Aql : For love of god please say something clear
Not your ambiguous BARZAKH the mixture of true ISLAM and fake KUFFR
For love of god please say something clean
Not your ambiguous Adam and phantom jinn

 

from SWEETSWORDS 114 [ Worth of Woman ]



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awal


Posted By: seekshidayath
Date Posted: 02 February 2008 at 6:07pm

Originally posted by Angela

Originally posted by Israfil

Why is this discussion about what men can have? We must take into consideration for the extermist on this site here that this choice (inter-marriage) is only for men.


The reason is simply the Quran.  The Quran is very specific.  Men can marry Christians and Jews, Women can only marry other Muslims.

The debate is if the permission for men is still in place.

I can kind of understand the prohibition from marrying a non-Muslim man.  As a Mormon, the husband is the spiritual head of the house and the priesthood holder.  In every active worthy Mormon household, the father blesses the children, prays over the house, teaches the Gospel and is in charge of seeing to it that the children are raised in the Gospel.

In a Muslim household, this would be very similar.  The Husband/Father prays at the head of the family, is an example to his children and in charge of teachings his children Quran and Sunnah.

If a Muslim woman were to marry a Non-Muslim man, then the spiritual head of the family is another faith. 

I personally wouldn't suggest interfaith marriage to either side.  75% of all interfaith marriages fail.  Mine almost did.  It wasn't until I became Mormon that we didn't fight about faith and children.  I wanted to raise them Orthodox and he wanted to raise them Mormon.  We had all sorts of issues that would have had to been addressed had I not eventually become Mormon.

A Muslim/Christian marriage would have to deal with the nature of Christ, the Prophethood of Muhammed, dress codes, prayers, even food.  How can one parent teach the child that Jesus is the Son of God and Savior and the other parent say that he is only a Prophet and saying he's the Son of God is an unforgivable sin? 

In the end, the law of the Quran is such that Muslim Men can take non-Muslim wives.  Muslim women cannot take non-Muslim husbands.  So any debate would be more about men than women.

Angela, you are completely out of my understanding. . You have answered excellently. Your understanding over this subject is just superb. Hope we learn from it. What do you say Br, Israfil?



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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."


Posted By: Sign*Reader
Date Posted: 03 February 2008 at 12:49am
Originally posted by seekshidayath

Originally posted by Angela

Originally posted by Israfil

Why is this discussion about what men can have? We must take into consideration for the extermist on this site here that this choice (inter-marriage) is only for men.


The reason is simply the Quran.  The Quran is very specific.  Men can marry Christians and Jews, Women can only marry other Muslims.

The debate is if the permission for men is still in place.

I can kind of understand the prohibition from marrying a non-Muslim man.  As a Mormon, the husband is the spiritual head of the house and the priesthood holder.  In every active worthy Mormon household, the father blesses the children, prays over the house, teaches the Gospel and is in charge of seeing to it that the children are raised in the Gospel.

In a Muslim household, this would be very similar.  The Husband/Father prays at the head of the family, is an example to his children and in charge of teachings his children Quran and Sunnah.

If a Muslim woman were to marry a Non-Muslim man, then the spiritual head of the family is another faith. 

I personally wouldn't suggest interfaith marriage to either side.  75% of all interfaith marriages fail.  Mine almost did.  It wasn't until I became Mormon that we didn't fight about faith and children.  I wanted to raise them Orthodox and he wanted to raise them Mormon.  We had all sorts of issues that would have had to been addressed had I not eventually become Mormon.

A Muslim/Christian marriage would have to deal with the nature of Christ, the Prophethood of Muhammed, dress codes, prayers, even food.  How can one parent teach the child that Jesus is the Son of God and Savior and the other parent say that he is only a Prophet and saying he's the Son of God is an unforgivable sin? 

In the end, the law of the Quran is such that Muslim Men can take non-Muslim wives.  Muslim women cannot take non-Muslim husbands.  So any debate would be more about men than women.

Angela, you are completely out of my understanding. . You have answered excellently. Your understanding over this subject is just superb. Hope we learn from it. What do you say Br, Israfil?


I would like to add my two cents, this permission to marry women of AhleKitab is not feasible when rules of Sharia are not promulgated in the land! which is not the case in most of the world as we know. When that union falls apart then who decides about the children and other things?

 I have seen the sorry and miserable state of lot of my friends who married their girl friends under this clause, made babies got divorced when the party was over. The custody went to the mothers cuz of bias against Muslims and most kids grew up lost without religion or some confused notions! They turned up dope heads and alcoholics and an added burden to the society by making more babies with more of the same!

Not necessarily these were practicing Muslims to begin with but were very much keen to use the allowance!

If you would reverse Christian man marrying a woman with Muslim name things decidedly would turn even worse and I know a few of those cases of abhorrent misery!


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Kismet Domino: Faith/Courage/Liberty/Abundance/Selfishness/Immorality/Apathy/Bondage or extinction.


Posted By: seekshidayath
Date Posted: 03 February 2008 at 6:14am

Well said brother.

I would like to add my two cents, this permission to marry women of AhleKitab is not feasible when rules of Sharia are not promulgated in the land! which is not the case in most of the world as we know.

And also brother, when we observe few well-known instances, like that of Husni Mubarak and also ex-Prime minister of Indonesia. Though we have muslims in majority there in Indonesia, it affected the islamic admimistration then. Woman play a very important role and they do have affect over the lives.



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Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."



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