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Topic: islam vs sufism
Posted By: poga
Subject: islam vs sufism
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 6:49am

SWEETSWORDS 65 [ Marrifatic Map ]

3 - 2 - 1 + 1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8

BISMILLAH

By Poga Humayun Dundiwala

Trust in ALLAH but tie the Camel
Tie the TAQDEER but trust in AMAL
Book of open deeds and Sealed acts of disbelief
The Science of innocent Niyat guilt free accomplishment and the AMAL of sinful KHALIF
Therefore trust in ALLAH and tie the Camel
Because we won't be punished for our act of rude answers and or Niyat of innocent call
Because our intuitional Niyat develops within us without our Premeditated plan
Nor we can decree anything if ALLAH doesn't want it to be done
Therefore we are punished because choice of our AMAL and submitting our will to it
It is by submitting our Niyat we under seal our heavenly writ

Poga Say's in a foolington Maze

Even BE IMAN believes ALLAH and MUHAMMAD in theirs gambling bet
But only MUSLIM knows gambling and intoxicant are forbidden by ALLAH and his last Prophet
Even BE IMAN believes ALLAH and RASUL ALLAH
But only MUSLIM knows faithfully MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim is the last Prophet of ALLAH
La Ilaha Illel La MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH

Awaluddin Marrifatullah Say's Aujubillahi Minash Qadianur Razim
Oh ALLAH save us from Jealous Jahil Qadaiani Zalim
Oh ALLAH save us from scheming Qadiani Shaitani sly
Awaluddin Marrifathullah Say's Aujubillahi Minash Qadiani lie

Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah : From nameless nowhere comes the nonsense
From the loquacious ilm e laduni comes the tongueless silence
From the origin of baseless appears the apparition
From the talkative ilm e laduni comes the silent narration

From the nameless nowhere comes the dream
From the scolding ilm e laduni comes the silent scream
From the origin of baseless appears the inauguration
From the breathing ilm e laduni comes silent pulsation

From the nameless nowhere comes the nescience
From the crowded ilm e laduni comes the silent alliance
From the mouth of muteness comes the mike
From the crowded ilm e laduni comes the alone alike

Mrs Be Aql Khan Usta : If Sufi is Islamic word then so is Shadu and Swami
If Sufi is Amirul Muminun then our Imam can be any one HARAMI
I say no this is Jahaliya
Do not associate Sufi with our Wali and Auliya
Remember when you accept Sufism
You accept Bismillah Khan Tabla and the dancing darvesh with his devilish rhythm
Sufi the root word came from the wool
From the bah bah white sheep the Christian fool
They wore the woolen vest infested with lice
They lived in monastery like the hermit mice
They lived as they will with theirs self inflicted suffering
They had nothing but theirs madness as theirs ritualistic offering
These fool Say's wool while it was the petal
The first dress of Adam and Eve COTTON
From the living trees not the leather from the dead cattle
Just as our Holy Prophet choose the Egyptian and Yemeni COTTON
Above the Chinese and Indian wool
Wool is not the Islamic comfort but self suffering of the Christian fool
Therefore oh my brothers do not cry
By slaughtering of Sufi swine porky pie
All Sufi's are swines therefore they are bacon gammon and ham
Living or dead they are Kullu Haram
Therefore just as the Jesus to save the men
He placed the Devil in the pig
Similarly to save the Sufi swines we must put his Mr Satanic Thoughts
In the mind of the Dr ISLAMIC Toblig
We must kill to cull But no harm may come to theirs body
Kill theirs ignorance by enforcing them with the SUNNAH study
Now to see ISLAM go to BANGLADESH INDIA or PAKISTAN
Now see the shrine of Sai Baba the Sufi goofy Shaitan
See your self the temple of Rama or the Rahim's tomb
See how Ajmeer became the Business boom
See your self that every Qari Alim Wali Auliya needs to meet certain qualifications
But to become Sufi one only needs singing acting dancing and mental delusions
The act with righteous deeds and pretend to be the scholar
They don't write to give living book
They only write to become the pen killer
Now this scheming Iblis or ignorant Insaan
Claiming Sufism came from the MUHAMMADAN clan
If Sufi is Islamic word then our Kalimah is Qawali
Song of Shaitan is same as the Azan of our Wali
I say no
I will fill theirs loughington with the most horrible sorrow
I will bind the fools with my foolington maze
I will kill all theirs dark mysticism with the stark SWEETSWORDS blaze
Because i know the house of Fathima is the house of NOOR
While house Sufi is the house of swine manure
I know i am using my tongue to clean the toilet
But they too are my brother how can i ever forget
I am the victim of all sin i know the sinner
Therefore i ask my Muslim brothers
Wali is Wali Sufi is Sufi Dome is Dome Minar is Minar
Now this Sufi swine Say's it is permissible to seek Prophets help
Because that what we will seek at the day of judgment
HARAMI knows not Haram does not become Halal by salacious Sufi sentiment
In did it is permissible to seek Prophets help while he is present
Every Sahabi did it by united agreement
At the hour he will be there because it is his MAKAM E MAHMOOD
Even there even MUHAMMAD will intercede by will of his MABUD
Therefore when we are present at the AKIRAH we will seek his intercession
But here at DUNIYA we hold ALLAH'S direct revelation
Here we hold AL QURAN and AL SUNNAH what directly intercedes all our deeds
Our Halal Hawas and our Kuffar Greed's
We know our prophet is the Hayatun Nabi
But does dead man know his visitor
Does dead man know what living utter
Does dead man receive living offering
Yes Holy Prophet MUHAMMAD Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim said
ALLAH return theirs souls to reply theirs greetings
Therefore one who is always remembered even for his good bay
He who becomes the Immortal he who will never die
Therefore ALLAH and his Angels remember MUHAMMADUR RASUL ALLAH
Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallim in theirs Durood
Therefore send praises for MUHAMMAD and prayers for his MABUD
And know in did it is permissible to seek Prophets help at the hour of need
To energize our soul with the RUHANI feed
And we also know all RUH testified by the name of ALLAH before our birth
And from the grave we will send the live cry as we are crushed by the earth
Therefore death is the door to the immortality and this life is temporal
And we will surly die therefore technically we are all immortal
And he who has realized this immortality in this mortal form
He who becomes the master of metaphysics the physical phantom
And as every phantom as every manifest
Knows theirs work plays and in theirs rest
He knows to seek anything beside ALLAH IS shirk
And he who seek any thing beside ALLAH is the MUSHRIQUE
Now you ask any Sufi Swine about theirs concept of seekers
He will say Murid must seek Murshid to learn the secret of the ZIKRS
They with theirs pantheistic belief of Wahdatul Wujud
They seek Khawal and Khanqa of theirs masters to do theirs SUJUD
This Sufi they teach theirs students to seek the master to go to ALLAH
They ask about Muraqabah and Fanafillah
Yet ALLAH Say's come to me without any association
Yet the Sufi swine Say's no one can reach ALLAH
Without masters intersession and supervision
They with theirs six circular subtleties of reality the nafs qalb ruh sirr khafi and akhfa
Creates the mischief where there is the clear octagonal reality of the cubical KAABA
They say six because six is the sign of the circular KURSI
But they take as the octagonal cubical ARSH
Thus creating the Sufi goofy heresy
They say six because three six nine is the sign of the Infinite circle
While it is one two four and eight is the sign of the eternal cubicle
They say six and i say there is only four path
The RUH the AQL the NAFS and the FITRATH
They say it is written in this book
Other say it is write in that book
I say come to one book what we all agree
The book of mathematics as sure as one two and three
Agreed by not only Hindu musalaman but even by the deaf dumb and blind
Agreed by every race cast type and kind
Now i ask all theirs Sufi goofy Saliks to do Suluk and show theirs Karamat
I challenge with my eight cubicle reality
Against six stage st**idity of all Sufi Goofy idiot
Come and tell us about ours pious brothers of veranda
And about your polluted sister of Shopia
Tell us did word Sufi came from Tassauuf Suffa Sufia or your st**id Jahailiya
Come and talk to me with clear numbers not with ambiguous Aya of AL QURAN
I wont share AL QURAN or AL SUNNAH with you because it is for true Mumin or real Kaffir Be Iman
Our sacred books are not for you Sufi play and Mushrique game
I don't want you to choose portions of our books what is easy for you use
And leave what is hard for you to tame
I don't want you to choose the Aya only what benefits your term
And make Haram Halal and Halal Haram
You Associate Allah by claiming The poem by Sufi Rumi of Iran
Is the Persian version of AL QURAN the FURQAN
Because Al Quran is the Word of ALLAH
Therefore it is our Lateral GOD
Yet you claim Masnabi is similar book by word by word
Here you you associate word of ALLAH with the word of men
Yet ALLAH claims if Human Angels Jinn all combine Together
Yet all fail to create such a pen
You under you blind Mind Mesh cover see only five ALAMS
Where there is eight absolute
Yet you say there is only the Nasut Malakut Jabarut Lahut and Hahut
Don't you know there are the Seven heavens
Even that too have something on the top
Under the heavenly tree where all angelic duty must stop
So there is the Seven and one on the top makes it eight
So i ask every Sufi swines to give this KAFFIR ways before its too late
Yes i agree you will say i lack your Adhab Aksh breath and Chirag
I tell you i am the free spirit
Without any weight on my shoulder without any backward drag
Yes i lack Adhab because i don't respect any Shaitan
I will never show any respect to any Qadian or any Sufi goofy Be Iman
You say Fana is connecting with other to become the all united one
There is no more self no more ego all is one by this Fanafillah Union
Yet again you say next and ultimate state is Baqabillah of self annihilation
But how can you commit the double suicide even in your imagination
You have already have killed you ego to reach the level of Fana
But you kill your self again at baqabillah and still sing Hamd and Sana
Tell me many times does a creature needs to loose its self
To find that it is not the creator
I say a pen can loose zillion times
But it will still never find its self as the writer
Therefore i Say give up this evil practice
And learn the true Tassauuf if you want to grow
Read the SWEETSWORDS 108 [ The elemental Setting of Four foe ]
Learn the mathematics of His Highness Ali Mortuza
To count his progeny till the MAHDI
Learn about the Islamic KAABA and give up evil practice of the Kabalistic Yehudi
Learn fro for Noble Imams the HANIFA MALIK SHAFI and HANBAL
Only one of them is from the house Quraish
Rest are form different race colour and Nasal
Yet you say have family chain and Silsila
While there is the only one rope of faith
The Noose for Shauda to die on the way of ALLAH
By the call of Ahle Baith
The only Silsila only chain you hold is your chain letter scam
The Sufi goofi gnosis in the name of the mystical ISLAM
Now i will take you to the fourth station of the octagonal line
But i know it is only up to level three is the going limit for all Sufi swine
Now if you seek to go further then learn pigs are all Haram
And look at the top of this poem you will see there are some numbers in Fibonacci term
Out of this eight i Will tell you about the first four
So hold your body breath and mind for the RUHANI tour
You know Fibonacci series begins with one but i have stared with the three
Now see at your ego the soul is the one
And other is everything and every one else as your surrounding sanctuary
Now as you see you and the surrounding you know you did not create your self
Nor the surrounding is capable of creating its own being
So you take into the account there have to be the third
Who created me and everything else and every one else
Now you find your self
In the first level of the true trinity of this creation of fact and false
Now you find your self in this trinity of the self surrounding and the creator
And to go to the second stage you must become the one to one debtor
Just as if you truly want to Analise any particular problem
Then you have to pay all your attention to this particular item
This is your second stage the stage of the seeker
What the Sufi goofy call the Tariqathi Fiqar
And as you concentrate harder upon this one and only issue
And suddenly you forget everything else every one else you even forget you
Only the issue remains all else are gone
This is the third stage the Fanafillah the WHADATUL WUJOOD the union
But this is the level of Fanafillah
Where everything is God everything is ALLAH
To describe this conditions i will give you the living and the dead legends
The materialistic and the spiritualistic of the Fanafillah blends
From the materialistic side who say everything is matter so just relax
They are Dawkin Hawkin Darwin and Carl Marx
From the spiritual side who say everything soul so be Sufi
They are Sarwardi Hallaj Arabi Farabi and all Harami Philosophy
They fail to understand just as the body soul too is the creation of ALLAH
Therefore come out oh my brothers from the zombie land of Fanafillah
And think brothers those materialistic who truly do not believe in the spiritual real
The are not committing SHIRK knowingly they are ignorant but sincere solemn
But those materialistic those who are in doubt
And those spiritualistic those who are sure
When they associate any spiritual or material with ALLAH
They are committing the act of KUFFR
Now you may say if material is not ALLAH and spiritual is also not ALLAH
ALLAH is nor this ALLAH is nor that
Then tell us ALLAH is who ALLAH is what
Therefore listen ALLAH is he who shaped the men with his own hand
And breathed into him his own RUH and said be
So RUH is like air and the sound like the wave upon the sea
Just like sound and air is interlinked like the height and the weight
And we know when we speak it is our air and the sound
What records our echo in the carbon slate
And just as our recorded echo does not have our physical or spiritual part portion or sections
Similarly ALLAH sits on the ARSH creates in the KURSI
By his all unique unequal unneedful actions
No need can compel him to act because he all needless
Yet he creates out of mercy to be the listener of all heedless
It he who listens it is he who answers to whom he please
It is he creates the SUNNAH medicine and the QURANIC disease
With QURANIC disease he creates the Kharijite
But with the SUNNAH medicine he sends the Doctor AHLE BAITH
Therefore for this plague of master the Sufi Sheikh malady
Hold the rope of AHLE BAITH and await for the Imam MAHDI
I say brothers accept the SUNNAH and become the SUNNI
I say brothers accept IMAN and become the IMANI
I say brothers give up Fanafillah where you see all is one
Because illusion is its reality
But as every Wali Auliya knew one cannot remain in Fanafillah
Because of our bodily needs and necessity
It is when in our normal conditions of human life
You know you are the product of the dirty water of men and wife
You are not the divine creator who created all
It is when you separate your self from the one to save your fall
Once you separate from one
Only then you will find another singular
It is then you realize the first creation of ALLAH
The Noor Un Ala Noor
The MUHAMMDAN MUNAWWAR
But you must also realize this are only the four stage out of the octagonal eight
From there no one can go up or down
Without going through the Illuminati ALI MORTUZA'S gate
So beware when you send the Durood as the sing song Sama
It is when you accept sacred AL QURAN can read like salacious Sufi Sa Re Ga Ma
Therefore i the BE AQL break the treaty of the great Ahamad sirhindi
The Wahdatul Shahud the unity of the witness like peace loving Gandhi
I say there is no peace no compromise
No more goody goody ugliness by Mr Nice
I say when we witness the evil we declare Jihad
We won't compromise by any Gandhi Sirhindi peace loving word
See how easy it is to dis refute all your Dalil just like flash
All i had to do is just to visit your deceiving web
To find all your Sufi goofy trash
Your Sufi goofy gnosis
Your linguistic terms and your deaf and dumb and blind hypothesis
I can answer all your word games but i don't have the Patience
Because to think st**idity is the waste of human intelligence
I don't need books to prove you wrong
What approved by one sect and disproved by other brother
I will use only one book told by our Marrifatic father
Just as he divided the seventeen camel by three heir
So to you must divide the one by the self the sustainer and the Sansar
What is this single creation what resurrects all
Once you do this you enter the cubical reality
From the fictional circular ball
You will then understand the true meaning of Ihasan
You will witness the perfect condition
The formation of cosmos in the frame of Insaan
The ADAM KADAM the universal men
No ink no letter no books no grammar
But only one all encompassing pen
The very first thing what created by ALLAH
Writing the single repetition again again
La Ila Ha Illel La
MUHAMMAD UR RASULULLAH
But even then this simple Kalimah or the complex AL QURAN
Can mislead the Angels Jinn And the Insaan
Yes it is AL QURAN what misleads Mathematical Khrijite Rashid Khalifa
Yet SUNNAH of MUHAMMAD UR RASULULLAH what guides nonnumerical waiter
Awaluddin with the ilm of the mathematical Marrifa
Yes it is AL QURAN what created the Kharijite clan
But our Fibonacci Fitna our SWEETSWORD
We don't claim prophet hood we don't claim SWEETSWORDS is the word of GOD
Far from it
It is written by Innocent BE AQL and her husband the Ganja addict criminal
Who came to destroy all levels of the trance Samadi Fanafillah and HAL
Our position is this simple fact
By discovering the mathematical miracle of AL QURAN
Rashid Khalifa enlisted his name in the list of false prophet
But our discovery of mathematical miracle of SUNNAH of holy prophet MUHAMMAD
Is the last SUNNAH of prophet hood same as the AL QURAN is the last word of GOD
SWEETSWORDS is the proof Ilm e laduni can be gain by any one who have the desire
And you don't need any Guru Murshid Pir Teacher or Master
It is as simple as we have the SUNNAH and we have the AL QURAN
And we have the previous books the Thora Bible Veda Geetha and Puran
And we have living instructors in every Darul Uloom in every Madrasha
We don't need any secretive Sufi meeting room of Huzrah or any Hindu Akrah
We have all the immortal books and all the living learned
They just ask for some lump some fees in return for knowledge
They don't ask for our wholesome head
But the Sufi Goofy Say's show adhab to the sheikh till he commits the SHIRK
Even then be content do not be argumentative do not use you GOD given logic
Be patient and observe because Masters are Masters of all reason
When HAL is over when hangover is gone Master will give his sober sermon
But i say brothers do we really need to be the deaf dumb and blind
When we can see the dancing darvesh and drunken Masters of the kung fu kind
I say listen brothers when we felt to write our shouting mute
We found we cannot read the punctuations marks of the grammatical route
We cannot read the signs of the literary street
Therefore we got our self the poetical license for all academic criteria to meet
Now we got the masters license therefore we do the freelance
No st**id coma semicolon just pure intelligence
So think brothers if one waiter can do this then think about our writer
So do you really need any Sufi Goofy Guru Murshid and The Master
I say no brothers we have the rope of ALLAH what can bind us all
To believe in the AKHIRAH the meeting of the MAKAM E MAHMOOD hall
We can all meet there when we learn the true meaning of the WASILAH and FAZILAH
We can all meet there when we recite La Ila Ha Illel La
MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH
So i the BE AQL put this four challenge to all Sufi swines
First tell me how do you get five ALAMS in the eight octagonal lines
For number two
Tell who are you
Are you the decorated woolish fools
Or the wisdom of naked needless brothers of verandah
Who died like Kings on the way of ALLAH
While lived as the beggar vagabond bandah
Now if you say wool
Then tell me fool
SUNNAH of the Prophet is to like what he likes
Dislike what he dislikes
And he wore cotton the comfort
Not the wool what gives suffering with spikes
On occasions he used wool and silk to show he is not an extremist
And for three tell me between Moses and Khidr
Who is the Miraculous paranormal activist
Tell me what MARRIFA could ever be more high
Talking directly to ALLAH Almighty here on earth without going to the sky
So if MOSES holds all miracles and metaphysics
Then what is Al Khidr's LADUNI deal
Tell me what is knowledge of the Green Man Gupta Ibn Chlorophyll
And now for the number four
Tell me about the Fanafillah your Ruhani tour
If Wahdatul Wujood is the unity of the beings
Then tell me why there is separation
Between the cubical ARSH and KURSI with the circular rings
Is the seven rings of the earths and seven of the sky
ARSH and KURSI all are united there is no low nor there is any high
Tell me about our real bitter SWEETSWORDS in your Sweet Sufi Goofy lie

 

Mr Barzakh Fitrath Ullah : The voice came from voiceless mouthless phone
It came from the lightless darkless twilight zone
It said when there was no light it doesn't mean there was the darkness
It only means there was no concept of colours of that image less
It was there the realm of two
Place of breathing air and talking RUH
it said single thing let there be light
And behold two thing came the marrifatic blindness and the shariatic sight
It said tale and testimony is not one thing but two
One is narrated by the mouth other by the RUH
It said NOOR is not light
But it is the beggeter of all fire
It said NOOR is the father of all light and darkness of this SANSAR
It said NOOR is the drop of sperm
What impregnated all feminine womb
NOOR is the groom awaited by every bride of the honeymoon tomb
Our own grave
The honeymoon suite for the MUHAMMADAN slave
There the salve seeks not the freedom but the tie
There they bind theirs earthen body with the MUHAMMADAN sky
There they unite with the singular creation
To realize the all separate creator
There they know light and darkness are two created entity from the singular beggeter
Therefore understand to create this creation
The very first thing ALLAH created was the system called evaluation
He created the first dot then expanded it to become the line
Then he placed the weight upon square
So it may grow to become the cubical sign
And in this cube
Heart of one lover made the circular repetition
Rabb Rabb Rabb oh my Mehboob
And by his praises and greetings within this cubical ARSH
He created the circular FOOTSTOOL
Within the cubical ARSH he created the circular KURSI for his omnipresent RASUL
It was the first dot the infinitely minute MUHAMMAD what created the big bang
The sound of this creation the MUHAMMADAN song
It is here everything is MUHAMMAD but everything is the creation of ALLAH
Therefore it is ALLAH who grants everything and MUHAMMAD is the WASILAH
And the WASILAH cannot grant anything because granter is the ALLAH the all giver
Therefore to seek to ALLAH is permitted
But to seek to RASUL is to commit the act of KUFFR
It is like putting partner to ALLAH what is against our deen of ISLAM
It is against the SUNNAH of the MUHAMMAD
Sallel La Hu Alahi Wa Sallm
Therefore give up this polytheistic Sufi policy and adopt the monotheistic ISLAMIC plan
Adopt the true ISLAMIC Iman Amal and Ihsaan
You must discard this Satanic Sufi word from the ISLAMIC creed
To save the ISLAMIC words Wali Auliya Pir and Murshid
Because this word Wali Auliya Qari Muazzin Comes with the certified qualifications
But word Sufi could be adopted any one who suffers from the mental delusions
And once they titled them self such words as Guru or Sufi
One they start to speculate about the Ilmul Gaib and the Phantom philosophy
They not only pretend to be the Wali Auliya
But they say the are Prophets the are Gods
Therefore i the BARZAKH reveal theirs lying words
I the BARZAKH disassociate ISLAM from the Sufi swines
I will separate theirs hidden Sufi circular symbols
With my manifest cubical ISLAMIC signs
I say no one have monopoly over ILM E LADUNI apart from the ALLAH
Therefore seek this knowledge i begun with this repetition of names
La Illa Ha illel La MUHAMMADUR RASULULLAH
To see the Ilme E Laduni i asked my visual inspiration
It said to me to understand the Laduni learn what is connection between Cain and Newton
Learn what is the connection between apple and the Gravity between crow and the Cain
Learn if Ilm e Marrifa is phantom force
Then why AL KHIDR have to suffer the physical toil hunger and the pain
If he could materialize appear and disappear with his power
Then surly he would kill the oppressed king at this punishing hour
He killed the bad son but not the evil father of the nation
Because it was the duty of the Moses his miracles and his sermon
So as you see hear it is the Moses who holds the secrets of all Miracle
Yet he too had to go to AL KHIDR for the unknown knowledge and the hidden AQL
And what is that knowledge apart from the most obvious answer
All events concerning AL KHIDR is the events of theirs future
In future boy will become naughty
In future boat will be taken
In future will the inheritors will get theirs booty
Now with this connection as you bind AL KHIDR
You will find one learned men with the power Zikr and Fiqr
He learned the secrets of the nature he learned the process of inspiration
And now with the same connection you bind the Cain and the Newton
There one apple drops and he gains the knowledge of the gravity
Here one crow digs and killer learns
The dead deserves the burial dignity
He gives death to one and becomes the father of all graves
By the power of intention he kills one men
But by the power of the inspiration the whole humanity he saves
Therefore Ilm E Marrifa is the Ilm of Inspiration
The divine gift from the creator to his earthen creation
Ilm E Marrifa is not the monopoly of any man
It is not only for the Hindu Musalaman or the Christian
It is even used by the trout as the swim toward theirs birth place
Used by monkey donkey and the ants race
What can live without this Ilm
Without exercising the logic in theirs mental gym
Ilm E Laduni is the knowledge gained by the name of GOD
Ilm E Laduni is the knowledge gained by our inner word
Just as SHARIAH is the knowledge the guidance by the revelation
By the rightly guided deeds by the previous generation
And the MARRIFA is the knowledge the spontaneous genius inspiration
The Ilm E Laduni of the Cain and the Newton
Ilm E Marrifa is the acquired information
Same as Ilm E Shariah is the given revelation
It this sixth sensory perception what led Edison to discover the light bulb
It was the Muslim Noor Un Ala Noor what glowed in his Christian Qulb
It is the most merciful ALLAH
Who wants to see the growth of the humanity as the whole
Not only for the Mullah mice and Murshid mole
Yet it is the ALLAH who wanted the humanity to gain the knowledge of the electronics
Now would ALLAH let humanity go without it if it is not the subject matter of the senile Sufi cynics
It was the ILM E MARRIFA what led one adulterous Adam to discover the condom
While another pious ADAM forgot the SHARIAH and ate the forbidden Gondom
Therefore to understand the MARIIFA you must know ILM E MARRIFA is based on the inspirations
Therefore it is from the human mind it is the human creation
But SHARIAH is based on the book of ALLAH
To challenge forever the deviant MUTAZILLAH
AL QURAN is the SHARIAH therefore all human inspiration must submit to the rule of the RABB
But inspiration should be used to distinguish the true word of the Yakub
From the fabricated word of the Job
Because no inspiration is necessary to know the fact of the one creator
But inspiration is necessary to interpret the many many mysteries of the nature
Ask any Christian Yehudi or Hindu
Do the need any inspiration to now there is only one GOD
But inspiration should be used to understand the ambiguous AL QURAN his final word
But the clear Aya of the AL QURAN leaves no doubt about the ALLAH Angels Prophets Jinns and the day of judgment
Therefore revelation of AL QURAN comes first and full
And the Laduni inspiration comes by the secondary installment 
You must understand the secrets of the creation the hidden and the manifest
The duality of the good and the evil
The degrees of the SHARIAH and the MARRIFA and the east and the west

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Al–Ihsaan - Perfection In Acts Of Worship
by Imâm al-Madîna al-Munawarrah 'Alî Abd-ur-Rahmân al-Hudhaifî
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Friday Sermon from the Prophet's Mosque in Madina

on Al-Jum'ah 7 Dhul-Hijjah 1421 (March 2, 2001)

All praise is due to Allaah the Most Beneficent, Most Merciful. I testify that there is no god worthy of worship save Allaah and I also testify that Muhammad saws is the messenger of Allaah.

O you Muslims! Fear Allaah, for fear of Allaah is one’s provision for the next world and his treasure in this world. Hold fast unto your religion. Allaah has chosen Islaam as the religion for the inhabitants of the Earth and the Heavens and He has guided to it whomsoever He wishes among His slaves. Allaah has also made for those who follow this religion three ranks: Islaam, eeman, and ihsaan, which is the highest of the three ranks. Ihsaan is the best rank of Islaam, for one attains closeness to Allaah only through ihsaan. Ihsaan means doing good to oneself by worshipping Allaah with perfection and doing good to people. Allaah says,

 

  "And who can be better in religion than one who submits his face (himself) to Allaah (i.e. follows Allaah’s religion of Islaamic monotheism); and he is a muhsin (a good doer)." (An-Nisaa 4:125).   

He also says,

  "And do good. Truly Allaah loves Al-Muhsinun (the good doers)." (Al-Baqarah 2:195).   

The Almighty has also promised a great reward for the good doers in this world and the next. He promises them protection and good things of this life when he says,

  "Truly Allaah is with those who fear Him (keep their duty unto Him), and those who are good-doers." (An-Nahl 16:128)   

Among the reward of good deeds is that it makes good-doers win Allaah’s love. Allaah says,

  "Verily, Allaah loves the good-doers." (Aal Imraan 3:134).   

Doing good also makes Allaah provide relief for the good-doer whenever he is in distress and makes Allaah save Him from his enemies. Allaah also blesses the good-doers with different kinds of blessings and lets them have a happy ending. He says regarding Yoosuf,

  "Verily, he who fears Allaah with obedience to Him and is patient, then surely, Allaah makes not the reward of the good-doers to be lost." (Yoosuf 12:90)   

Among the rewards of good deeds is that Allaah will impart knowledge into the heart of the good-doer, which will enable him to differentiate between lawful and unlawful things, and between truth and falsehood. Allaah says about Yoosuf,

  "And when he (Yoosuf) attained his full manhood, We gave him wisdom and knowledge. Thus We reward the doers of good." (Yoosuf 12:22).   

Allaah also rewards the good-doers by making later good doers join their predecessors, giving them of His bounties and completing His favour on them. He says,

  "And the foremost to embrace Islaam of the Muhajirun (those who migrated from Mecca to Medina) and the Ansar (the citizens of Medina who helped and gave help to the Muhajirun) and also those who follow them exactly (in faith), Allaah is Well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success." (At-Tawbah 9:100).   

Allaah also rewards good doers by praising them and making His slaves praise them as well. The Almighty says about prophet Nooh (Noah),

  "Salaam (peace) be upon Nooh (from Us) among the Alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists)."   

He also says regarding prophet Ibraheem (Abraham),

  "Peace upon Ibraheem! Thus indeed do We reward the Muhsinun."   

And about prophets Musa and Harun, He says,

  "Peace be upon Musa and Harun. Verily, thus do We reward the good-doers." (As-Saafaat 37:119-120).   

Although the verses mentioned above speak about prophets, yet the rewards mentioned in it will be the same to be given to other good-doers. He also says,

  "For those who do good in this world there is good, and the home of the hereafter will be better. And excellent indeed will be the home (i.e. Paradise) of the Muttaqun (the pious)." (An-Nahl 16:30)   

About the reward of the good-doers in the hereafter, Allaah says,

  "For those who have done good is the best (reward i.e. Paradise) and even more (i.e. having the honour of glancing upon the countenance of Allaah). Neither darkness nor dust nor any humiliating disgrace shall cover their faces. They are the dwellers of Paradise, they will abide therein forever." (Yoonus 10:26)   

The word "more" means having the prestige of seeing the Countenance of Allaah as it has been successively related in hadeeths that the believers will see their Lord on the day of Judgement. As a matter of fact having the privilege of seeing the Gracious Countenance of Allaah on the last day is a suitable reward for Ihsaan (i.e. good deeds) because ihsaan means to worship Allaah in this world as if one sees Him. Glancing at His Gracious Countenance plainly on the Day of Judgement then becomes the greatest reward for good deeds. As regards the unbelievers, their eyes will be screened from seeing Allaah on that day, as their hearts were veiled from knowing Allaah and fearing Him in this world. Allaah says,

  "Nay! Surely they (the evil-doers) shall be veiled from seeing their Lord that day." (Al-Mutaffifeen 83:15)   

Fellow Muslims! What then is this ihsan (good deed) that attracts such a high position before Allaah and such a great reward? The answer was provided by the Messenger of Allaah saws when he said

  , "Al-Ihsaan is to worship Allaah as if you see Him. And even though you do not see Him, He sees you!" (Muslim). 

This hadeeth means that man should worship Allaah, mindful of his closeness to Him and his standing before Him just as if he is seeing Him plainly. This state brings about God-consciousness and love of Allaah and purifies ones acts of worship. Anas bin Malik narrated that a man said,

  "O Messenger of Allaah! Tell me a short word." The Prophet saws replied, "Pray as if you are in your farewell prayer, for if you do not see Allaah, He sees you." And the meaning of the phrase "if you do not see Him, He sees you" is that if one cannot worship Allaah as if one sees Him, he should then worship Him with the conviction that Allaah does see him and that none of his affairs is concealed from Allaah. Haarithah related that the Prophet saws told him, "O Haarithah! How did you enter into your morning?" He said, "I replied, ‘I entered into the morning as a true believer.’" He said, "The Prophet saws then told me, ‘Watch what you say, for every word has a reality.’" He said, "I then said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah, I keep myself away from the (leisures of this) world, spend my nights in prayer and fast during my days. I am now as if I am looking at the throne of my Lord appearing. I am also as if I am looking at the inhabitants of Paradise as they visit one another. And it seems as if I am looking at the dwellers of hell as they howl therein!" The Prophet saws then said, "You have indeed seen (what you claimed to have seen). Therefore continue on your state of Ibaadah, O slave whom Allaah has illuminated his heart with faith!" 

Al-Ihsaan is to observe prayer in the best form, moving closer to Allaah and beseeching Him secretly during the night when people are asleep. So also is doing good to people. Allaah says,

  "Verily, they were before this good doers. They used to sleep but little by night (invoking their Lord and praying with fear and hope). And in the hours before dawn they were (found) asking (Allaah) for forgiveness. And in their properties there was the right of the beggar (who asked) and the poor (who do not ask others)." (Adh-Dhaariyaat 51:17-19)   

Al-Ihsaan also means striving against one’s soul, struggle against Satan, hypocrites and unbelievers. Allaah says,

  "And many a Prophet fought (in Allaah’s cause) and along with him (fought) large bands of religious learned men. But they never lost heart for that which did befall them in Allaah’s way, nor did they weaken nor degrade themselves. And Allaah loves the patient ones. And they said nothing but, ‘Our Lord! Forgive us our sins and our transgressions (in keeping our duties to you). Establish our feet firmly and give us victory over the disbelieving folk! So Allaah gave them the reward of this world, and the excellent reward of the hereafter. And Allaah loves the good-doers." (Aal-Imraan 3:146-148).   

It is also an aspect of Ihsan to spend in the way of Allaah whether one is rich or poor, to suppress ones anger and forgive the ignorant ones when they misbehave. Allaah says,

  "Those who spend (in Allaah’s cause) in prosperity and in adversity, who repress anger and who pardon men; verily, Allaah loves the good-doers." (Aal-Imraan 3:134).   

It is a part of Ihsaan to surrender to the truth, to love it and to listen to the revealed book of Allaah with sound and healthy minds and attentive ears. Allaah says,

  "And when they listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger, you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognised. They say, "Our Lord! We believe; so write us among the witnesses. And why should we not believe in Allaah and in that which has come to us of the truth (Islaamic monotheism)? And we wish that our Lord will admit us (in Paradise on the Day of Resurrection along with the righteous people (Prophet Muhammad saws and his companions). So because of what they said, Allaah rewarded them with gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise), they will abide therein forever. Such is the reward of the good-doers." (Al-Maa’idah 5:83-85)   

Fellow Muslims! Fear Allaah as He should be feared and race towards His pleasure. Know that His pleasure can never be attained except by carrying out his commandments and abstaining from what He prohibits, for this is really the worship, for which He created the man and jinn. Allaah has also bestowed his favour on you by explaining to you preferable periods in which one should increase his act of worship so as to get great rewards. Among these periods are the first ten days of Dhul-Hijjah. Standing at Arafah also falls within these days, and it is on this great day that Allaah forgives great sins. The Prophet saws said,

  "There is no day in which Allaah redeems as many souls from hell as the day of Arafah. Allaah comes near and boasts with His servants in front of the angels. He then says, "What do these people want?" (Muslim). 

Abo Qataadah ra also narrated that the Messenger of Allaah saws was asked about fasting on the day of Arafah, and he replied,

  "It removes the sins of the previous year and the current year." (Muslim). 

Strive therefore to do as many good deeds in this day as possible. Remember Allaah much and keep yourslef away from the prohibited things. Allaah says,

  "And march forth in the way (which leads) to forgiveness from your Lord and Paradise as wide as are the Heavens and the Earth, prepared for the pious. Those who spend (in Allaah’s cause) in prosperity and in adversity, who repress anger and who pardon men; verily, Allaah loves the good-doers." (Aal-Imraan 3:133:134).   

 
 Ihsan – the Gnostic Knowledge of Mankind


 


The Arabic word ihsan, which begins the title of this talk, comes from the verb ahsana which means t"o act well, to do something expertly, to master something", but although these meanings are indeed included in it, the word as it is used here comes from a well-known saying of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, in which he was asked to define the deen or life-practice he was sent to convey to mankind. He divided it into three parts: firstly Islam which he defined in terms of the five pillars, the actions every Muslim must perform; secondly Iman or faith which he defined in terms of the things every Muslim must believe; and thirdly Ihsan which he defined by saying, "It is to worship Allah as if you could see Him, for though you may not see Him, He crtainly sees you." In other words Ihsan involves the bringing together of the other two aspects of the deen by a human being who is in a state of intense awareness of the presence of his Lord. Many great Sufis have said that this is sufism. Our master, Shaykh Abdalqadir as-Sufi, says as part of his definition of sufism, and therefore Ihsan, at the beginning of his book The Hundred Steps:


Sufism is the science of the journey to the KingÉ It is taking the ancient way, the primordial path of direct experience of the Real.

The sufi is universal. He has reduced and then eliminated the marks of selfhood to allow a clear view of the cosmic reality. He has rolled up the cosmos in its turn and obliterated it. He has gone beyond. The sufi has said "Allah" – until he has understood.


Something of the meaning of these words will unfold, Allah willing, during the course of this talk.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn al-Habib, the first shaykh of Shaykh Abdalqadir, says with reference to Ihsan in the long supplication which forms part of his wird, one of the central practices of the path we follow:


We ask for an Ihsan which will drive us into the presence of the unseen worlds and which will purify us from every kind of forgetfulness and defect.

This brings the matter right back to home to us sitting here in this zawiyya which is a place dedicated to making Ihsan a reality in the lives of those who use it. What is being talked about is not some theoretical construct but rather what is possible for us as human beings; what direction we are going to take in our own lives. The shaykh speaks here about the presence of unseen worlds and he also speaks about forgetfulness and defects, and this brings us immediately face to face with two very different paths we might follow in our lives. The word for human being in Arabic is insan. One meaning of this word is the pupil of the eye; another possibility is that it comes from the word which means to forget. So the word itself contains the two directions which a human being can take. One possibility is that we become completely engrossed in this world, forgetting that it is merely part of a much longer journey which started before we were born and will continue beyond our death. The other possibility open to us is that, like the pupil of the eye, we become a lens, except that whereas the pupil stands as the interface between the outer world of forms and the inner world of sense perception, the human being as a whole stands potentially as the conscious interface between this material world and the unseen world of spiritual realities.

So how does it come about that we hold this exalted position in the scheme of things? There are three sayings attributed to the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, which together make up a complete description of the true nature of existence and of our place as human beings in it and which take us to the very root of our humanness and put us beyond all the evolutionary or historical definitions with which we have been so profoundly indoctrinated.

The first is: "Allah was and there was nothing with Him – and He is as He was."

The second is Allah's words on the tongue of His Messenger: "I was a hidden treasure and I desired to be known. So I created the creation in order to be known."

And the third is Allah's words conveyed by the Prophet: "The whole universe cannot contain Me but the heart of My believing servant contains Me."

"Allah was and there was nothing with HimÉ" The current climate of opinion has turned the existence of God into a matter of philosophical speculation with the result that for most people, including many who consider themselves believers, the existence of God has been turned into a speculative hypothesis. How far we have come from the Truth! The existence of Allah is the most absolute certainty. Not, it is true, the distant, capricious, potentate God of misinterpreted scripture but Reality itself, that Oneness on Whom everything is totally and continually dependant for its being, but Who is Himself beyond need of anything – Oneness, not in the arithmetical sense of being the first of two or three but rather that absolute singularity the physicists talk of which does not permit the independent existence of anything else along side it. Everything else comes into existence and goes out of it again, begins and ends, is born and dies. Allah is before and after. There is no beginning to His firstness, no end to His lastness. Nothing is like Him or can be compared with Him nor is it possible to have any conception of what He is like.

"And He is as He was." If this is the case how come we are sitting here now living on this planet which is part of the solar system in one of countless galaxies in a universe which seems to go on for ever? The answer to this question is that the absolute, majestic and overwhelming transcendence of the first tradition is conditioned by the second: "I was a hidden treasure and I desired to be known. So I created the creation in order to be known." It was the desire for self-knowledge expressed in the depths of the Essence of the Divine Being that caused the process of creation and led to the unfolding of the many layers of existence and all the forms contained in them including ourselves and the universe we inhabit. And there is another tradition about the actual moment of creation which says that when Allah decreed that the creation should come into existence out of non-existence He grasped a handful of His light and said to it, "Be Muhammad!" And then from that light He created everything else in existence.

Now we have to be careful when we hear this that we do not dismiss it by considering it to be merely a figure of speech or a poetic metaphor. It is literally what happened. Shaykh Muhammad ibn al-Habib says in his Diwan at the beginning of the qasida entitled The Qualities of Muhammad:


Muhammad is the fountain-head of lights and darkness and
      the source of their emergence from the presence of before-time.
So his light was the first of lights when He determined
     the manifestation of His Names in the first world.

From him all things were clothed in their origination in being,
     and their support comes from him without any interruption.


And this, of course, as it applies to the whole of existence also applies to our own universe and everything in it including our own emergence as human beings on the earth. I must repeat: be careful you do not take this as metaphor; it is a literal description of how things have come into existence. Taking the present state of the expanding universe and working backwards from it, cosmologists, both astronomers and quantum physicists, have come up with a more or less consistent picture of the first moments of the universe. They say that the universe developed from a singularity, an infinitely small, infinitely dense point emerging out of nothingness. It was a fireball, they say, and by that they mean, of course, not fire as we know it today, but rather a ball of pure energy. Its rate of expansion was incredibly fast as we understand time now but because in those early moments space and time were inextricably bound up together we can have no real idea of what the conditions were like within it. The important point for us in the present context is that the whole event in these very early stages can only be described as being made up of undifferentiated light.

So what has, through the aeons of expansion, turned into innumerable galaxies made up of stars and planets, a few of which are visible to us when we look up into the breathtaking beauty of the sky at night, was all present in a latent form in this literally fistful sized ball of light. Because of the inconceivable degree of chance necessary to bring about the conditions which made our emergence as sentient human beings on this planet a possibility, the scientists have developed a theory they call the anthropic principle. They say that if we make the simple assumption that human beings exist, all the principle qualities of the universe, all the natural laws, even all the physical constants, can be derived from this assumption. In other words what they are saying is that the whole universe exists only in order to give human beings somewhere to live, so that they, in turn, will be able to describe the universe. How little they understand!

In the 13th Century Shaykh Muhyi'd-din ibn al-'Arabi, whose family came from Murcia and who lived down the road in Seville, enunciated clearly what was in any case common knowledge among the Muslims: "In the universe it was man who was intended." This was, of course, because they knew that the first impulse of creation took the form of the Muhammadan Light: in other words they understood that the whole purpose of existence was the coming into being of the perfect human form which became physically manifest in the succession of incorruptible Messengers and Prophets of Allah, may the peace of Allah be upon all of them, who reached their apogee and fulfilment with the advent of the Prophet Muhammad, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. That was the mirror in which the "Hidden Treasure" became known by revealing Himself to Himself in all His Majesty and Beauty.

Now we are approaching the subject matter of this talk: the gnostic knowledge of mankind; what Shaykh



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awal



Replies:
Posted By: martha
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:03am

Salaams poga,

I hope I'm not the only one who doesnt understand this post. I am a muslim revert, learning slowly,but this has gone over my head completely. Sorry I dont understand your message. I read it because I want to know more. But this makes Islam very confusing for me. Sorry once again.



Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:37am

 

 Yes, The post is too long. The matter should be presented from self and should be precise, one point at a time. I could not read the complete post.

  According to the topic, it would be against Sufism. Because topic is Islam Vs Sufism. That would be a very wrong subject to chose. It would be ignorance to ignore the Sufis (Saints) of this Ummah.

 But I do not understand the purpose of that extra ordinary long post.



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If any one is bad some one must suffer


Posted By: abuayisha
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:20pm

Originally posted by martha

I hope I'm not the only one who doesnt understand this post.

Yeah, sort of like "If you can read this, you have a strange mind too..." post, but with a twist; 'If you can understand this, you have a strange mind.. 



Posted By: minuteman
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:00pm

 

 I only understood a part of poga. He is against the Qadianis, the Sufis, The christians and many more. He is not against Islam or Aulia Allah. He is a professional poet living in the United Kingdom.

 But it is love that solves the problem. Not hatred. Poga is a poet full of hatred for some class of people. He is giving his message in the form of poetry. Thanks to him.



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If any one is bad some one must suffer


Posted By: Salams_wife
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:07pm
I agree the post is too long and would take too much time to read and decipher.  It also uses words that are nearly extinct in the english language.  I can read and understand most arabic so that isn't the problem.  I think it would be better to break things down and explain the reason for posting them.  This would make it easier to discuss the topic.


Posted By: Angel
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 3:52am

I some what read some, it went over my head too, way too long, poems are not meant to be that long are ??

I know much about sufism and what is said in that poem (if I can call it that) is wrong.

If anyone is interested in learning some more and what I have learnt, just go to the forum islam for non muslims.

 

p.s: i've bumped up two threads so it should be on the first page.



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~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~


Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 7:58am

Barzakh : To recognise the sufi tailors and nanga shadu
I asked Dr Strange and Tilismati Aflatoon for some scientific jadu
They gave me mirror what reveals horror of deception
I saw no MARRIFA lives there only business man in the metaphysical zone
Now i see clearly the sufi shaitan and his meccan inspiration
And KAFFIR Qadian with his Hindustani revelation
Now i see clearly theirs mystical foggy fib
Theirs example is blinds who cannot see the manifest
Never mind the Gaib

To recognise the sufi tailors and naked awliya
I asked Curious Elias and Illuminati Ibn Taymiyyah
They gave me measuring tape what reveals all theirs shortcoming
I saw no MARRIFA lives there in the land of lost roaming
Now i see clearly all qadiani sahitan and theirs soofi goofi gnosis
Now i see clearly theirs mystical manipulation and heretic hypnosis

from SWEETSWORDS 78 [ Great Traitor ]



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awal


Posted By: poga
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 7:24am
Originally posted by minuteman

 

 I only understood a part of poga. He is against the Qadianis, the Sufis, The christians and many more. He is not against Islam or Aulia Allah. He is a professional poet living in the United Kingdom.

 But it is love that solves the problem. Not hatred. Poga is a poet full of hatred for some class of people. He is giving his message in the form of poetry. Thanks to him.

Assalamualaikum

i am from bengal therefore i have seen likes of bauls folk singers who preach love

they really do as long as it is free sex

every poet in my country took up pen for theirs pleasure and created bitterness

so i have taken SWEETSWORDS the dagger of song



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awal



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