Zionists never do anything illegal, if anyone says that they do they are being anti-semtici heheh, as crazy as it may sound thats the mainstream medias "logic".

Daniel, I'm also not laughing. I dont think it funny at all that people keep having a go at the Jews.

I have no problem with the Jews, yet I'm muslim. I dont hate the Jews one bit. I dislike what people do from time to time. And that covers people from all religions, including the once I choose to follow.

It seems to me that grown adults behave like spoilt children, in a 'free for all grab a toy, thats my property' party'. When the toy gets broken the child still complains.

But, then again, with the possible exception of the incident of the stolen GI Joes, I have learned not only to distrust your simplistic readings of history, Bismarck, but even more the conclusions that you draw –or would have us draw- from those readings.  This present thread is both thematically and logically similar to others that you have started.  I am, for instance, still waiting for you to provide something in the nature of upper-case “PROOF” that “Jews own Europe,” as you contended, in this by now unremembered and sadly languishing thread, the one that you started and quite inexplicably stopped:
 
http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9012&KW=Europe - http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9012& ;KW=Europe

Bismarck wrote:

Neither.  It is histrionic and insulting.  Sigmund Freud, as I perhaps imperfectly recall, at one point in his controversial book, Moses and Monotheism, places the word host in quotation marks and reminds his readers that there had been a Jewish Community in Cologne since the time of the (pre-Christian) Roman Empire, well before the Germanic (later half-converted, ill-baptized) barbarians claimed it as their own.

At the risk, then, of my perhaps continuing to spoil the ongoing Manichean plot between absolute good and evil thus far established in this thread, and if only as it relates to that tyrannical Catholic power referred to above, it might be worth noting this, from Hannah Arendt.  The bold emphasis is added, for those who might like to cut to the chase:   

“… The turning point had been in the seventeenth century when, during the Thirty Years’ War [between Protestants and Catholics], precisely because of their dispersion these small, insignificant [Jewish] moneylenders could guarantee the necessary provisions to the mercenary armies of the war-lords in far-away lands and with the aid of small peddlers buy victuals in entire provinces.  Since these wars remained half-feudal, more or less private affairs of the princes … the Jews’ gain in status was very limited and hardly visible.  But the number of court Jews increased because now every feudal household needed the equivalent of the court Jew …

The Jews had been the purveyors in wars and the servants of kings, but they did not and were not expected to engage in the conflicts themselves.  When these conflicts enlarged into national wars, they still remained an international element whose importance and usefulness lay precisely in their not being bound to any national cause.  No longer state bankers and purveyors in wars (the last war financed by Jews was the Prussian-Austrian war of 1866, when Bleichroeder helped Bismarck after the latter had been refused the necessary credits by the Prussian Parliament), the Jews had become the financial advisers and assistants in peace treaties and, in a less organized and more indefinite way, the providers of news.   The last peace treaties drawn up without Jewish assistance were those of the Congress of Vienna, between the continental powers and France.  Bleichroeder’s role in the peace negotiations between Germany and France in 1871 was already more significant than his help in war, and he rendered even more important services in the late seventies when, through his connections with the Rothschilds, he provided Bismarck with an indirect news channel to Benjamin Disraeli ...

Through the attitude of the [Prussian] Reformers and especially through the emancipation edict of 1812 [which gave Jews political rights], the special interests of the state in the Jews became manifest in a curious way.  The old frank recognition of their usefulness as Jews (Frederick II of Prussia exclaimed, when he heard of possible mass conversion: “I hope they won’t do such a devilish thing!”) was gone.

(To support this statement by Frederick II, Arendt provides a footnote, #27, which refers to Kleines Jahrbuch des Nutzlichen und Angenehmen fur Israeliten, 1847.)

Ref:  Arendt, Hannah, The Origins of Totalitarianism, Harcourt, Brace & World, Inc., New York, 1951, pp. 16-30 

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