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Quote ak_m_f Replybullet Posted: 18 August 2007 at 10:18pm
WALL STREET JOURNAL also published a story of people getting kidnapped by the UFO's.

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Quote Zanjabil Replybullet Posted: 19 August 2007 at 6:22am

Read the press archive of this site:

http://eng.terror99.ru/publications/

It includes: The New York Times, the BBC, The Moscow Times, The Observer, The Independent, The Baltimore Sun, CNN, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times...

I'm not asking you to take my word for it. I'm asking you to think for yourself and investigate. If you read and inform yourself, you are likely to draw the conclusion that the FSB carried out all the Russian apartment bombings. Simply because that is what all the evidence indicates.

Excerpts from “Blowing Up Russia: Terror from Within” by Yuri Felshtinsky and Alexander Litvinenko:

The Ryazan Story (http://eng.terror99.ru/publications/080.htm

On May 21, 2000, just five days before the presidential election, when the failed explosion in Ryazan had been put back on the public agenda for political reasons by the parties competing for power, the head of the investigative section of the UFSB for the Ryazan Region, lieutenant-colonel Yuri Maximov, stated as follows:

“We took all the events of that night seriously, regarding the situation as genuinely dangerous. The announcement about exercises held by the FSB of the Russian Federation came as a complete surprise to us and appeared at a moment when the department of the FSB had identified the places of residence in Ryazan of those involved in planting the dummy (as it subsequently emerged) device and was preparing to detain them.”

It was thus twice confirmed in documentary form that the terrorists who had mined the building in Ryazan were employees of the FSB, that at the time of the operation they were living in Ryazan, and that the places where they lived had been identified by employees of the UFSB for the Ryazan Region. This being so, we can catch Patrushev out in an obvious lie. On September 25, in an interview with one of the television companies he stated that “those people who should in principle have been found straight away were among the residents who left the building, in which an explosive device was supposedly planted. They took part in the process of producing their own sketches, and held conversations with employees of the agencies of law enforcement.”

The real facts were quite different. The terrorists scattered to different safe apartments. No sooner had the leadership of the Ryazan UFSB reported in the line of duty by phone to Patrushev in Moscow that the arrest of the terrorists was imminent than Patrushev gave the order not to arrest the terrorists and announced that the foiled terrorist attack in Ryazan was only an “exercise.” One can imagine the expression on the face of the Ryazan UFSB officer concerned: most likely Major-General Sergeiev was reporting to Patrushev in person when he was ordered to let the terrorists go!

Beyond this point our investigation runs up against the old familiar “top secret” classification. The criminal proceedings instigated by the UFSB for the Ryazan Region in connection with the discovery of an explosive substance under article 205 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (terrorism) was classified and the case materials are not available to the public. The names of the terrorists (FSB operatives) have been concealed. We don’t even know if they were interrogated and what they said under interrogation.

On September 29, 1999, the newspapers Cheliabinsky Rabochy and Krasnoyarsky Rabochy, and on October 1, the Volzhskaya Kommuna of Samara carried identical articles; “We have learned from well-informed sources in the MVD of Russia that none of the MVD operatives and their colleagues in the UFSB of Ryazan believes in any “training” involving the planting of explosive in the town… In the opinion of highly placed employees of the MVD of Russia, the apartment building in Ryazan actually was mined by persons unknown using genuine explosive and the same detonators as in Moscow… This theory is indirectly confirmed by the fact that the criminal proceedings under the article on terrorism have still not been closed. Furthermore, the results of the original analysis of the contents of the sacks, carried out at the first stage by local MVD experts, were confiscated by FSB personnel who arrived from Moscow and immediately declared secret. Militiamen, who have been in contact with their colleagues in criminalistics, who carried out the first investigation of the sacks, continue to claim that they really did contain hexogene and there is no possibility of any error.”

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Quote syed123 Replybullet Posted: 25 August 2007 at 6:36pm

Zanjabil,I visited your Blog and i would like to offer a friendly suggestion.

Your blog is well presented but with regards to the United states you are judging it rather unfairly.

After having interacted with people around the world and in usa,,i can assure you that the common american (with a few exceptions here and there) is a genuine   and honest down to earth person who works hard to support his family ,likes his freedom,enjoys life and cares for the sufferings of the people around him.

Blind criticism of usa and Israel is only going to snatch the focus of your blog away from Chechnya where russia is committing a lot of atrocities.

Muslims should focus their efforts on building bridges with usa and especially israel and create an atmosphere of trust and confidence in which all the parties can grow and flourish.

Irrespective of the past hx the present reality is that Israel is a sovereign independent country with the right to exist like any other in the world.

 

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2007 at 4:58am

Zanjabil, I visited your Blog and i would like to offer a friendly suggestion. Your blog is well presented but with regards to the United states you are judging it rather unfairly.

Morshed, the day you discover your Peasant-in-Chief’s love for you, you will appoint me at least the Secretary General of your Utter Innocence Fan Club. Only the most innocentratis of our world would ever make such an infatuated remark about Zanjabil’s judgement.

After having interacted with people around the world

Please, won’t you also teach us this trick, of “How to Interact with all the People, in our world, and yet list Palestine as a mere Refugee Problem?

and in usa, i can assure you that the common american (with a few exceptions here and there) is a genuine and honest down to earth person who works hard to support his family, likes his freedom, enjoys life and cares for the sufferings of the people around him.

Zanjabil, please, did you do that? make some remarks about the common american?

Or, is this just one of my Morshed’s typical diversions?

Blind criticism of usa and Israel is only going to snatch the focus of your blog away from Chechnya where russia is committing a lot of atrocities.

What is blind criticism?

Other than some State Department spin your great Highness has been spamming here? by the tonne, since your sudden and annoyed appearance, around the time of Musharoff’s fall.

 

Or, is it just something you shout at your peasants when they refuse to sing n dance in tune with your spammed sermons?

 

Today, I will give you a friendly suggestion.

Just get your act together. We are not some utter bunch of peasants you seem to take us for. We have some exceptionally informed people, here, with multitudes of exposures and at least with their own thinking.

 

Post something original and thought provoking and we will play with you.

Muslims should focus their efforts on building bridges with usa and especially israel and create an atmosphere of trust and confidence in which all the parties can grow and flourish.

Another exact straight, simple State Department SPAM.

Irrespective of the past hx the present reality is that Israel is a sovereign independent country with the right to exist like any other in the world.

Again, you are taking us as mere peasants.

We know Israel is a sovereign state, but any state in our world, anywhere, CREATES AND ENSURES HER SURVIVAL through certain straight simple laws of NATURE. It’s not our fault that Israel is violating the very laws of her own survival

 

Talk with some learned Jews around the world, even in Israel. Just blindly taking all State Department spins won’t get you anywhere other than feeling good about having done your bit for your country – even better than some Fool Blooded Amreeki would have done.

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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2007 at 5:05am

With all these atrocities happening all over the world against muslims there is only one thing that is a common factor for all them--They all include Muslims so maybe you need to look at yourselves for once instead of blaming the west for all of your problems.

Hola! My genius. Noticed the other common factor? The U S!

Just one question; what do you get when you subtract syed123 from ops154?



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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2007 at 7:41am

Muslims should focus their efforts on building bridges with usa and especially israel and create an atmosphere of trust and confidence in which all the parties can grow and flourish.

We have had just a bit enough of your apamming of State Department and hardcore Israeli lobby spins. Any Confidence Building Measures can take shape only and after cease fires? It's a fact of history, almost, a Law of nature.

And, the problem is that laws of nature refuse to bend even for the mightiest force on this planet, why would these bend just in the face of some spammed sermons?

Since when have you been having this urge to treat all human beings as mere peasants or utter idiots? of course, unless they are Americans or Israelis.

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Quote syed123 Replybullet Posted: 26 August 2007 at 8:04am

Its my personal belief and view that unless   the Palestinians put up a united front and  change their long standing attitude of confrontation towards Israel the dynamics of the current situation are likely to remain the same indefinitely with the palestinians being the worst effected.

Israel also will need to make concessions from their side but just blaming israel without any concrete initiatives from their side is not going to help the palestinians in any way.

Its also prudent to recognise the reality that Israel is in a stronger position on the negotiating table and groups like hamas need to renounce violence and recognise the right of Israel to exist as an independent sovereign state.

The Longstanding palestinian issue has  not only increased poverty and suffering among the palestinians but also has diverted  world attention from other pressing muslim issues and problems around the world like the conflict in Chechnya etc.

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