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Quote Allahuakbar501 Replybullet Posted: 16 June 2007 at 1:12pm

You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. Here lets all study the Conditions of Jihad

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhar i/052.sbt.html

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/muslim /019.smt.html

http://abdurrahman.org/jihad/MashariAl-AshwaqilaMasarial-Ush aaq-RevisedEdition.pdf

 We had read that you are new convert. Or am I wrong? Please do not hurry up for the fight. Do not go near the sword. There is no order to fight any one. You should make yourself perfect beofre you try to reform the others." Yes i recently reverted to Islam,

"Please do not hurry up for the fight" Im fighting Already against my Nafs.

There is no order to fight any one" Maybe not at your Masjid but have we forgotten about our brothers in Chechnya, Nigera, Kashmir, Somalia, Afganistan, Phillipines, Turkey, Kosovo, Iraq, Palestine, etc etc. do we just close our eyes and pretend that nothing is happening to our Brothers and Sisters around the Globe, do we just worry about Muslims in America?

You should make yourself perfect before you try to reform others? No one is Perfect except Allah and in order to reform others an Islamic state must be established.

 "But if you're dumb enough to fight whoever (in this case I assume the West) then pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." The problem is not on Western fronts but it is the West and other Governments in the east causing them

"pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for?

by no means do i want to fight innocent christians, jews, buddhist

Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right? Most definitely

"We don't even have an Islamic State nor a Caliph to declare a Jihad yet you want to fight and act like you know what it is. Pitiful. You're acting like you know what Islamic law is and you don't." Thats exactly why we should fight for an Islamic state because we dont have one- now that is pitiful. I know about Islamic Law I know that it is the best solution to our problems with crime if you have seen things i have seen you would understand why i think its so vital to establish it.

'Again, I choose life and the promotion of a violent free world' 'that sort of optimism leads to hypocrisy'

Israfil do you believe in the Major signs of the Last day? and if so who laid them out Allah's Messanger(saw) or Shaytan's Messanger?

May Allah bless both of you in this life and in the hereafter and that you are granted Jannah and May Allah keep you on the straight path with your Iman strong and never weak.

 

 

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Quote Abu Mujahid Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2007 at 12:07am

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"Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right?"

I like your kumbaya business!!!. Sure your law enforecment manual training is doing its magic work. But how many more lies you want to caugh up under sheer ignorance!!!  Do you see how you want to rewrite Islam?

Just to ask you simple questions. Done Iraq/Aghanistan war? if not, are you willing to go the fight and shed muslim blood? By now you should be in selective service reserve?

Waiting your answer.

 

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Quote Israfil Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2007 at 12:22am
Originally posted by Abu Mujahid

Israfil wrote:

"Yeah and I'm sure once Islamic law is established you'd make them your dhmmis right?"

I like your kumbaya business!!!. Sure your law enforecment manual training is doing its magic work. But how many more lies you want to caugh up under sheer ignorance!!!  Do you see how you want to rewrite Islam?

Just to ask you simple questions. Done Iraq/Aghanistan war? if not, are you willing to go the fight and shed muslim blood? By now you should be in selective service reserve?

Waiting your answer.

 

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Quote Allahuakbar501 Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2007 at 11:24am

"You're a new convert and from your words you lack true understanding of Jihad. I've been a Muslim for years and have studied some Islamic law. You're focusing on a minute aspect of Jihad and making it the greater thing. You really have no understanding of Jihad."

Please enlighten me with your knowledge on Jihad if what you say is truthful?

But further more everything you put down i want it backed by Qur'an and Sunnah, because I dont think you know what i do happen to know, so please avoid being arrogant i dont want to step on anyones toes or call anyone names lets just discuss this topic

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Quote Allahuakbar501 Replybullet Posted: 17 June 2007 at 8:31pm

Oh and not to be antagonistic but i still want these questions answered.

do you wanna be apart of one-third of the army that will flee from the battlefield or do you wanna be apart of the two-third who will stay and fight?

If you dont know your enemy and study your enemy how will you be able to defend yourself and your beliefs in the time of war or dialogue?

this so called democracy that we live in is a joke i can get into more of my opinions about that but answer me this how does democracy/U.S. system government compare to the Shari'a?

There is no order to fight any one" Maybe not at your Masjid but have we forgotten about our brothers in Chechnya, Nigera, Kashmir, Somalia, Afganistan, Phillipines, Turkey, Kosovo, Iraq, Palestine, etc etc. do we just close our eyes and pretend that nothing is happening to our Brothers and Sisters around the Globe, do we just worry about Muslims in America?

"pick out your coffin especially if you're going up against a NAVY SEAL or British SAS or any other military force." Who exactly are you rooting for?

Israfil do you believe in the Major signs of the Last day? and if so who laid them out Allah's Messanger(saw) or Shaytan's Messanger?



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Quote crasss Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:21am
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All I have to say is, if you wish to fight for allah's religion be the good soldier and join Al-Qaeda or one of the resistance groups and fight. But best be sure before you fight, you pick a nice coffin...Leave that to the idiots Crass and Abu the "poo poo"

With a bit of patience, the Americans will run out of corn-fed, midwest born-again christians, and then they will have to recruit the ritalin-fed illegitimate, bastard offspring of tramp-stamp single mothers. What's more, I doubt the Chinese will keep lending their cash to pay for these wars. So, how long do you think it will take before the chickens come to roost? Only the blind don't see which side is going to win. Do you really believe that race of illegitimate one-night-stand bastard offspring will win? Who is the idiot here?

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Quote crasss Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2007 at 12:37am
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Please enlighten me with your knowledge on Jihad if what you say is truthful?

bro Allahuakbar501, this problem is a test in patience and determination.

Victory for the side of Allah is guaranteed, but it will take time. The Americans will mostly destroy themselves.

They are now feeding deadly mind-altering drugs to 20% of their kids, who will die before the age of forty. Half of the Americans are on anti-depressants. They are deeply in debt, as well as their government. They keep their debt system afloat with money from the chinese. Their women are the most promiscuous whores ever known on this planet. One American teenager out of two has an incurable sexually transmitted disease. 70% is overweight or obese.

It can't last that much longer. Just be a bit patient.

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Quote Angela Replybullet Posted: 19 June 2007 at 10:00am

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One American teenager out of two has an incurable sexually transmitted disease.

Running out of reality?  Only 25% get infected and most of it is curable with antibiotics. 

The middle east seems no better.  Nor, South East Asia which included Indonesia.

Region Adult population (millions)1 Infected adults (millions) Infected adults per 1,000 population New infections in 1999 (millions)
North America 156 3 19 14
Western Europe 203 4 20 17
North Africa & Middle East 165 3.5 21 10
Eastern Europe & Central Europe 205 6 29 22
Sub-Saharan Africa 269 32 119 69
South & Southeast Asia 955 48 50 151
East Asia & Pacfic 815 6 7 18
Australia & New Zealand 11 0.3 27 1
Latin America & Carribean 260 18.5 71 38
Total 3040 116.5 - 340

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