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Quote crasss Replybullet Posted: 06 June 2007 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by Cassandra

come up with a relevant reason why you don't agree.

If Israel is willing to talk about one state for both Muslims and Jews, and about the refugees returning home, I will sign up. Otherwise forget it. The talks will lead nowhere.

By the way, Israel clearly indicated that it does not want a hudna Unfortunately, all their arguments against a hudna equally well apply to any peace offer.

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Quote Duende Replybullet Posted: 07 June 2007 at 1:46am
Cassandra, I thought the point of making a post was to discuss things,
no? It doesn't stop anyone from signing a petition.

Sure the people at Avaaz have got their act together, there's not much
point getting angry at us because of that, or were you hoping to gain
some international standing? Haranguing us for not getting off our
backsides and actually, as you put it, doing something, changes nothing.
What did you expect to change here at Islamicity? Have you noticed any
fundamental changes outside in the world, which would affect the general
tone of things here?

On the one hand, Cindy Sheehan says goodbye to activism, declaring that
her son did in fact, die for nothing, and on the other, a nice shiney new
activist's site promoting yet another petition.

Meanwhile, the forces that be, those who could actually get something to
change, if they had the political will to do so, are meeting behind
reinforced concrete barriers in northern Germany, while activists throw
molotov cocktails and paving stones at police.

The article I posted talks about the problem in a way I had not thought
before: the IMPOSSIBILITY of a two nation solution because of Israel's
actions over the past 40 years. If you feel there's no point discussing that
viewpoint, that's fine.

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Quote Cassandra Replybullet Posted: 07 June 2007 at 6:54am

Duende:  Your posting of the article made several valid points. It is discussion, not ad hominem attacks I would like to see. Yes, the world's leaders are just as involved in their own self-serving interests and it takes a woman to persuade them to at least try to listen to the earth (???). Perhaps I should have limited my comments to the male egos here?  You would know far better than I.

e.g.

Whisper: "My friend, for a moment I had genuinely thought that you could understand wht I have said, but, sadly, your pre-occulation (sic) with fornication made you fly far past my point.

 

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