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Posted: 26 April 2007 at 4:53am

Originally posted by seekshidayath

But one homework. Try to recall the chapters of Qur'an in order. I tried it but missed the order in last. Atleast try to recall all the chapters be it in order or not. Be sincere and let me know how many cud u recall out of 114 .

As salamu alaikum

This exercise was tough - I could only remember the order up to 16th Juz ie only 20 Surahs in order.

that means in the remainder 14 there are 94 Surahs.

Salams

“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165)
"Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)

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Posted: 26 April 2007 at 5:31am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Assalamu alaykum

I am not quite sure about who was the first sahabi to memorise Holy Quran thats why i asked. But if i you think about the whole matter, Zaid (ra)'s name does come to mind. Thing is he was one of most used scribe and he was present in the meeting of last ramadan when Sayyidina Muhammad sallallahu alyhi wassalam was reciting Holy Quran to Jibrail alyhissalam. Now if some one has experience of listening to a Hafize Quran, you cant really keep up with them unless you yourself know Holy Quran by heart and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala knows best.

The exercise of trying to remember Surahs of Holy Quran, it is tough one sister alwardah but mashaAllah you done well by remembering till juz 16. I could only remember first 5 in order , I can recall 26 from first 6 manazil and alhamdulillah all 65 in order from the muffassil part (the last manzil) coz i am trying to memorize Holy Quran and have started from mafassil. Please pray for me that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala blessess me with this great blessing.

wassalam

Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 12:05am

As'salamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu,
I envy u both Sis Fatima and Alwardah. Insha-allah by today i would try to learn them all in order. May Allah bless u with with this blessing of hifz. Its great to know that u are memorising Qur'an. Are u doing this under supervision of any or by your own? Pls let know.

And coming to the discussions Alwardah is right for the first time probably to answer all the three answers .

'And of mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah.And Allah is full of kindness to [His] slaves" This is the verse of Al-Baqarah. and was revealed about one of the sahabas. Who is he?

A} Mu'adh Ibn Jabl RA B} Salman Farsi RA c} Suhaib ibn Sinan

Before going to the discussion as why this verse was revealed, lets know the background of Suhaib ibn sinan RA a little.
He was born by comfort and luxury . HIS father was the governor of Al Uballah and its ruler on behalf of persian king. and was one of the Arabs who emigrated to Iraq along before islam. But later Suhaib Ibn Sinan happened to embrace Islam as a child. Now coming to the context of the revelation of this verse :

When Prophet salllal lahu alaihi wasallam , intended to emigrate, Suhaib RA knew that and he was supposed to be the third one of the three - Abu Bakr RA , Prophet SAWS and Suhiab RA. However, the Quraish decided to prevent the emigration. Suhaib RA fell into one of there traps and was thereby hindered for sometime from emigrating , while the Prophet saws and Abu Bakr set out.

Suhaib RA disputed talked and argued until he got rid of his persecutors. He mounted his camel and sped across the desert. However Quraysh sent its hunters to follow him. When they reached him, Suhaib had hardly seen them before facing them and shouting from a near distance, " O people of Quraysh, you know that I am the best marksman .By Allah , you cannot reach me before I shoot each of my arrows with my bow, then I will strike you with my sword until it falls down. Come on, if you like to try. Or if u like, I will tell you where my money is, and so leave me alone. They agreed to take his money saying "You came to us as a poor wretch. Your money incresed in our land and among us you claimed high rank and now you want to escape together with your money? "

He guided them to the place where he had hidden his fortune, then they left him alone and returned to Makkah. Strangely enough they believed his words without doubt , without precaution. They did not ask him to prove his honesty or to swear. This situation granted him a great honor, which he deserves as an honest truthful person.

Alone but happy, Suhaib RA continued his journey until he reached the Prophet {Saws} at Qubaa. When Suhaib RA came into view , Prophet saws saw him, he called to him cheerfully, "O Abu Yahia! A Profitable sale! A Profitable sale!" There upon this glorious verse was revealed : "'And of mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah.And Allah is full of kindness to [His] slaves".

Indeed Suhaib had paid all his fortune - the fortune he spent all his youth to gather - in return for his faithful soul. He never felt it was an unjust bargain. Money ,Gold, the whole world , nothing of that sort was worthwhile as long as he kept his faith. Now lets have a look at ourselves. Most of the muslims today prefer to acquire wordly
possessions instead.

I remember a story of an American who had embraced Islam duirng his trip at Saudi Arabia. Earlier he had not even listened the word ISlam. While shoppping he bargained a lot but the owner did not give him the commodity at his rate. The bargain still continued and then they heard the call for the prayer i.e Adh'aan. And the shopkeeper immediately left the commodity for which they were arguing since long time wherein he was in no mood to give it to him. He soon settled the matter with the amt this person was asking for and left for the salah. This incident made this American to know as what his religion was which insisted him so. Very soon his recitation of Qur'an had its Effect over him and soon he embraced Islam. Had the shopkeeper looked for just little profit of that commodity, he would not have gained this profit inhis Aakirah. Anyways May Allah grant us such spirit of imaan.
The other two answers are also right. It must be Salayem. Since we read that in Urdu text, we spell so.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 12:06am

Next set of questions:
1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams

A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS

2.Which of the companions of Prophet saws, decided not to spend his money anymore in charity over a close relative who was amongst the group those who brought forth the slander against his daughter, But when a verse was revealed he continued for charity to him.
Need choice for this tooooooo?

A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA

3.Ibrahim AS constructed Kabah along with ?
No choice for this. Its very easy one.

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 2:47am

The reply on above quize from my part a red higlighted

1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams

A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS

A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA

3.Ibrahim AS constructed Kabah along with ?

Hazart Ismail (As)

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 5:19am

Bismillah irrahman irrahim

Wa'alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahe wa barakatuhu

Next set of questions:
1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams

A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS

It was Yusuf alyhissalam who interpreted dreams. He was put in prison by aziz of Egypt on allegations made by his wife which were proven wrong though. He interpreted dreams of his fellow prisoners that one of them is going to be freed while the other one will face execution. This fellow prisoner who escaped execution used to work for aziz and later on when aziz saw a dream and wanted to know what it meant went to prison to ask the interpretation of it. Yusuf alyhissalam told them about the dream and was freed and given a great honour later on. Part of the dream was that land of Egypt will have 8 prosperous years of rainfall and grain followed by 8 years of drought. Interestingly the weather still follows the same patern and scientists have discovered it in the last century. But Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala had blessed His Prophet and servant with this knowledge many thousands years ago.

May Allah bless u with with this blessing of hifz. JazakAllah khair

Its great to know that u are memorising Qur'an. Are u doing this under supervision of any or by your own? Pls let know.

Its bit hard to find a teacher in the area where i live but inshaAllah i hope i will do. If you have a teacher then you get bound to it and its like a course but i had few things i was involved in already so could not commit like that. I have heard and read that you should do it with a teacher but if you cant, it should not stop anyone from learning by themselves. Alhamdulillah its ok, you have to make a schedule and have to, have to stick with it, listen recitation of Ayaat or Surah you trying to memorise many times and alhamdulillah you learn it ok.

Wassalama

Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:52pm

Yes sister Fatima u are right and thanks for correction.

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Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:36pm

As'salamualaikum,

Mohammad bhai, what about the exercise of recalling the chapters of the Qur'an? Could u recall them in order?

1. And regarding the first question, though i referred to Yusuf AS and as Sis Fatima did explain it exactly, i just have a doubt here that Yaqub AS did interpret the dream of Yusuf AS that the stars prostrate him ---. Even Yaqub AS did interpretation na?

A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA

When the verse of innocence of Aishah RA was revealed against the hypocrites who made their accusations against her and spread lies about her, then Abu Bakr RA, who used to spend on Mistah bin Uthathah because he was a close relative and because he was poor, said, `By Allah, I will never spend anything on him again after what he has said about `A'ishah.

Then a verse was revealed -And let not those among you who are blessed with graces and wealth swear not to give to their kinsmen until His saying: Do you not love that Allah should forgive you And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. So Abu BAKR RA said, `By Allah, certainly I love that Allah should forgive me.' So he resumed spending on Mistah as he had spent on him before, and he said, `By Allah, I shall never stop spending on him.'"

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Alwardah Senior Member Joined: 25 March 2005 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 980	Posted: 26 April 2007 at 4:53am
	*Originally posted by seekshidayath* But one homework. Try to recall the chapters of Qur'an in order. I tried it but missed the order in last. Atleast try to recall all the chapters be it in order or not. Be sincere and let me know how many cud u recall out of 114 . As salamu alaikum This exercise was tough - I could only remember the order up to 16th Juz ie only 20 Surahs in order. that means in the remainder 14 there are 94 Surahs. Salams
	“Verily your Lord is quick in punishment; yet He is indeed Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful (Surah Al-An’am 6:165) "Indeed, we belong to Allah and to Him is our return" (Surah Baqarah 2: 155)
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fatima Moderator Group Joined: 04 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 964	Posted: 26 April 2007 at 5:31am
	Bismillah irrahman irrahim Assalamu alaykum I am not quite sure about who was the first sahabi to memorise Holy Quran thats why i asked. But if i you think about the whole matter, Zaid (ra)'s name does come to mind. Thing is he was one of most used scribe and he was present in the meeting of last ramadan when Sayyidina Muhammad sallallahu alyhi wassalam was reciting Holy Quran to Jibrail alyhissalam. Now if some one has experience of listening to a Hafize Quran, you cant really keep up with them unless you yourself know Holy Quran by heart and Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala knows best. The exercise of trying to remember Surahs of Holy Quran, it is tough one sister alwardah but mashaAllah you done well by remembering till juz 16. I could only remember first 5 in order , I can recall 26 from first 6 manazil and alhamdulillah all 65 in order from the muffassil part (the last manzil) coz i am trying to memorize Holy Quran and have started from mafassil. Please pray for me that Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala blessess me with this great blessing. wassalam
	Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 12:05am
	As'salamualaikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu, I envy u both Sis Fatima and Alwardah. Insha-allah by today i would try to learn them all in order. May Allah bless u with with this blessing of hifz. Its great to know that u are memorising Qur'an. Are u doing this under supervision of any or by your own? Pls let know. And coming to the discussions Alwardah is right for the first time probably to answer all the three answers . 'And of mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah.And Allah is full of kindness to [His] slaves" This is the verse of Al-Baqarah. and was revealed about one of the sahabas. Who is he? A} Mu'adh Ibn Jabl RA B} Salman Farsi RA c} Suhaib ibn Sinan Before going to the discussion as why this verse was revealed, lets know the background of Suhaib ibn sinan RA a little. He was born by comfort and luxury . HIS father was the governor of Al Uballah and its ruler on behalf of persian king. and was one of the Arabs who emigrated to Iraq along before islam. But later Suhaib Ibn Sinan happened to embrace Islam as a child. Now coming to the context of the revelation of this verse : When Prophet salllal lahu alaihi wasallam , intended to emigrate, Suhaib RA knew that and he was supposed to be the third one of the three - Abu Bakr RA , Prophet SAWS and Suhiab RA. However, the Quraish decided to prevent the emigration. Suhaib RA fell into one of there traps and was thereby hindered for sometime from emigrating , while the Prophet saws and Abu Bakr set out. Suhaib RA disputed talked and argued until he got rid of his persecutors. He mounted his camel and sped across the desert. However Quraysh sent its hunters to follow him. When they reached him, Suhaib had hardly seen them before facing them and shouting from a near distance, " O people of Quraysh, you know that I am the best marksman .By Allah , you cannot reach me before I shoot each of my arrows with my bow, then I will strike you with my sword until it falls down. Come on, if you like to try. Or if u like, I will tell you where my money is, and so leave me alone. They agreed to take his money saying "You came to us as a poor wretch. Your money incresed in our land and among us you claimed high rank and now you want to escape together with your money? " He guided them to the place where he had hidden his fortune, then they left him alone and returned to Makkah. Strangely enough they believed his words without doubt , without precaution. They did not ask him to prove his honesty or to swear. This situation granted him a great honor, which he deserves as an honest truthful person. Alone but happy, Suhaib RA continued his journey until he reached the Prophet {Saws} at Qubaa. When Suhaib RA came into view , Prophet saws saw him, he called to him cheerfully, "O Abu Yahia! A Profitable sale! A Profitable sale!" There upon this glorious verse was revealed : "'And of mankind is he who sells himself, seeking the pleasure of Allah.And Allah is full of kindness to [His] slaves". Indeed Suhaib had paid all his fortune - the fortune he spent all his youth to gather - in return for his faithful soul. He never felt it was an unjust bargain. Money ,Gold, the whole world , nothing of that sort was worthwhile as long as he kept his faith. Now lets have a look at ourselves. Most of the muslims today prefer to acquire wordly possessions instead. I remember a story of an American who had embraced Islam duirng his trip at Saudi Arabia. Earlier he had not even listened the word ISlam. While shoppping he bargained a lot but the owner did not give him the commodity at his rate. The bargain still continued and then they heard the call for the prayer i.e Adh'aan. And the shopkeeper immediately left the commodity for which they were arguing since long time wherein he was in no mood to give it to him. He soon settled the matter with the amt this person was asking for and left for the salah. This incident made this American to know as what his religion was which insisted him so. Very soon his recitation of Qur'an had its Effect over him and soon he embraced Islam. Had the shopkeeper looked for just little profit of that commodity, he would not have gained this profit inhis Aakirah. Anyways May Allah grant us such spirit of imaan. The other two answers are also right. It must be Salayem. Since we read that in Urdu text, we spell so.
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 12:06am
	Next set of questions: 1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS 2.Which of the companions of Prophet saws, decided not to spend his money anymore in charity over a close relative who was amongst the group those who brought forth the slander against his daughter, But when a verse was revealed he continued for charity to him. Need choice for this tooooooo? A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA 3.Ibrahim AS constructed Kabah along with ? No choice for this. Its very easy one.
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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mohammad Senior Member Joined: 15 September 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 385	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 2:47am
	The reply on above quize from my part a red higlighted 1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS 2.Which of the companions of Prophet saws, decided not to spend his money anymore in charity over a close relative who was amongst the group those who brought forth the slander against his daughter, But when a verse was revealed he continued for charity to him. Need choice for this tooooooo? A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA 3.Ibrahim AS constructed Kabah along with ? Hazart Ismail (As)
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fatima Moderator Group Joined: 04 August 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 964	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 5:19am
	Bismillah irrahman irrahim Wa'alaykum assalam wa rahmatullahe wa barakatuhu Next set of questions: 1.Which of the Prophets was bestowed by the skill of interpretation of the dreams A} Yaqub AS b} Ayub AS c} Yusuf AS It was Yusuf alyhissalam who interpreted dreams. He was put in prison by aziz of Egypt on allegations made by his wife which were proven wrong though. He interpreted dreams of his fellow prisoners that one of them is going to be freed while the other one will face execution. This fellow prisoner who escaped execution used to work for aziz and later on when aziz saw a dream and wanted to know what it meant went to prison to ask the interpretation of it. Yusuf alyhissalam told them about the dream and was freed and given a great honour later on. Part of the dream was that land of Egypt will have 8 prosperous years of rainfall and grain followed by 8 years of drought. Interestingly the weather still follows the same patern and scientists have discovered it in the last century. But Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala had blessed His Prophet and servant with this knowledge many thousands years ago. May Allah bless u with with this blessing of hifz. JazakAllah khair Its great to know that u are memorising Qur'an. Are u doing this under supervision of any or by your own? Pls let know. Its bit hard to find a teacher in the area where i live but inshaAllah i hope i will do. If you have a teacher then you get bound to it and its like a course but i had few things i was involved in already so could not commit like that. I have heard and read that you should do it with a teacher but if you cant, it should not stop anyone from learning by themselves. Alhamdulillah its ok, you have to make a schedule and have to, have to stick with it, listen recitation of Ayaat or Surah you trying to memorise many times and alhamdulillah you learn it ok. Wassalama
	Say: (O Muhammad) If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, MercifuL
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mohammad Senior Member Joined: 15 September 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 385	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 7:52pm
	Yes sister Fatima u are right and thanks for correction.
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3338	Posted: 27 April 2007 at 11:36pm
	As'salamualaikum, Mohammad bhai, what about the exercise of recalling the chapters of the Qur'an? Could u recall them in order? 1. And regarding the first question, though i referred to Yusuf AS and as Sis Fatima did explain it exactly, i just have a doubt here that Yaqub AS did interpret the dream of Yusuf AS that the stars prostrate him ---. Even Yaqub AS did interpretation na? 2.Which of the companions of Prophet saws, decided not to spend his money anymore in charity over a close relative who was amongst the group those who brought forth the slander against his daughter, But when a verse was revealed he continued for charity to him. Need choice for this tooooooo? A} Uthman RA B} Abu Bakr RA C] Umar RA When the verse of innocence of Aishah RA was revealed against the hypocrites who made their accusations against her and spread lies about her, then Abu Bakr RA, who used to spend on Mistah bin Uthathah because he was a close relative and because he was poor, said, `By Allah, I will never spend anything on him again after what he has said about `A'ishah. Then a verse was revealed -And let not those among you who are blessed with graces and wealth swear not to give to their kinsmen until His saying: Do you not love that Allah should forgive you And Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. So Abu BAKR RA said, `By Allah, certainly I love that Allah should forgive me.' So he resumed spending on Mistah as he had spent on him before, and he said, `By Allah, I shall never stop spending on him.'"
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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