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Posted: 26 April 2008 at 11:10am

As-salaam alaykum warahamatullah wabarakatuh

Good this thread's still waxing stronger.Sorry,I was offline for a few days

ok.just b4 someone else gets this simple one.

Umar Ibn Khattab (r.a) reigned as Caliph for ten years masha Allahu before his demise as a martyr...

Good to have you back salams_wife.

And all the best with your Biology cos am dealing with it too....!!!

Edited by lovesakeenah - 26 April 2008 at 11:12am

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Posted: 26 April 2008 at 12:03pm

Thanks and good luck lovesakeenah in your class too. If you are anything like me, studying how a cell works is not on my top ten list of favorite things to do!!!

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Posted: 26 April 2008 at 4:36pm

My answers the same as Lovesakeena's He was the second caliph for 10 years from 634 to 644.

Speak a little Learn alot.

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Posted: 27 April 2008 at 12:59am

As'Salamu Alaikum,
I was into the answer, so cud not respond you.

Sister [ Salams_wife] , you are an all-rounder. You read all the subjects - history, politics, maths, biology too. Masha-Allahu sister. Hope you enjoy your work. Our best wishes are with you.

Sister Sakeenah, say Masha-Allah. Let no evil-eye struck it. Alhamdullilah our thread is getting stronger. Glad to see you back

JazakAllah for the answers, esp woodstock, your answer was complete.

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What was the duration of social boycott of Banu Hashim ?

Bro. Hamzah, its not fair. I had seen you online once !

Edited by seekshidayath - 27 April 2008 at 1:00am

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 27 April 2008 at 12:33pm

Bismillah, Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah
Sorry brother Seekshidayath and all the others, i was away for a dew days, i do alot of travelling.

Q-What was the duration of social boycott of Banu Hashim ?
It lasted 3 years, it started 7 years after the prophecy, Banu Hashem where isolated in a land belonging to Abu Talib where they were isolated socially and financially, no one was buying nor selling them till they starved and ate the leaves of the trees.

"Whosoever fears Allah, he will appoint for him a way out, and provide for him from where he does not expect"

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Posted: 27 April 2008 at 7:10pm

As'Salamu Alaikum,

JazakAllahu Khair brother for taking out time for us. And the answer is also correct, masha-Allah.

I shall paste its answer in more details as we see our member woodstock is active. Moreover it may add up to all of our knowledge.

The pagans of Makkah held a meeting in a place called Wadi Al-Muhassab, and formed a confederation hostile to both Bani Hashim and Bani Al-Muttalib. They decided not to have any business dealings with them nor any sort of inter-marriage. Social relations, visits and even verbal contacts with Muhammad [pbuh] and his supporters would discontinue until the Prophet [pbuh] was given up to them to be killed. The articles of their proclamation, which had provided for merciless measures against Bani Hashim, were committed to writing by an idolater, Bagheed bin ‘Amir
bin Hashim and then suspended in Al-Ka‘bah. The Prophet [pbuh] invoked Allâh’s imprecations upon Bagheed, whose hand was later paralysed. [Za'd Al-Ma'ad 2/46]

Abu Talib wisely and quietly took stock of the situation and decided to withdraw to a valley on the eastern outskirts of Makkah. Banu Hashim and Banu Al-Muttalib, who followed suit, were thus confined within a narrow pass (Shi‘b of Abu Talib), from the beginning of Muharram, the seventh year of Muhammad’s mission till the tenth year, viz., a period of three years. It was a stifling siege. The supply of food was almost stopped and the people in confinement faced great hardships. The idolaters used to buy whatever food commodities entered Makkah lest they should leak to the people in Ash-Shi‘b, who were so overstrained that they had to eat leaves of trees and skins of animals. Cries of little children suffering from hunger used to be heard clearly.

Nothing to eat reached them except, on few occasions, some meagre quantities of food were smuggled by some compassionate Makkans. During ‘the prohibited months’ — when hostilities traditionally ceased, they would leave their confinement and buy food coming from outside Makkah. Even then, the food stuff was unjustly overpriced so that their financial situation would fall short of finding access to it.

Hakeem bin Hizam was once on his way to smuggle some wheat to his aunt Khadijah [R]Ç when Abu Jahl intercepted and wanted to debar him. Only when Al-Bukhtari intervened, did Hakeem manage to reach his destination. Abu Talib was so much concerned about the personal safety of his nephew. Whenever people retired to sleep, he would ask the Prophet [pbuh] to lie in his place, but when all the others fell asleep, he would order him to change his place and take another, all of which in an attempt to trick a potential assassin.

Despite all odds, Muhammad [pbuh] persisted in his line and his determination and courage never weakened. He continued to go to Al-Ka‘bah and to pray publicly. He used every opportunity to preach to outsiders who visited Makkah for business or on pilgrimage during the sacred months and special seasons of assemblies. This situation ultimately created dissension amongst the various Makkan factions, who were tied with the besieged people by blood relations. After three years of blockade and in Muharram, the tenth year of Muhammad’s mission, the pact was broken. Hisham bin ‘Amr, who used to smuggle some food to Bani Hashim secretly at night, went to see Zuhair bin Abi Omaiyah Al-Makhzoumy and reproached him for resigning to that intolerable treatment meted out to his uncles in exile. The latter pleaded impotence, but agreed to work with Hisham and form a pressure group that would secure the extrication of the exiles.

On the ground of motivation by uterine relations, there emerged a group of five people who set out to abrogate the pact and declare all relevant clauses null and void. They were Hisham bin ‘Amr, Zuhair bin Abi, Omaiya, Al-Mut‘im bin ‘Adi, Abu Al-Bukhtari and Zam‘a bin Al-Aswad. They decided to meet in their assembly place and start their self-charged mission from the very precinct of the Sacred House. Zuhair, after circumambulating seven times, along with his colleagues approached the hosts of people there and rebuked them for
indulging in the amenities of life whereas their kith and kin of Bani Hashim were perishing on account of starvation and economic boycott. They swore they would never relent until the parchment of boycott was torn to piece and the pact broken at once. Abu Jahl, standing nearby, retorted that it would never be torn. Zam‘a was infuriated and accused Abu Jahl of telling lies, adding that the pact was established and the parchment was written without seeking their approval. Al-Bukhtari intervened and backed Zam‘a. Al-Mut‘im bin ‘Adi and Hisham bin ‘Amr attested to the truthfulness of their two companions. Abu Jahl, with a cunning attempt to liquidate the hot argument that was running counter to his malicious goals, answered that the issue had already been resolved sometime and somewhere before.

Edited by seekshidayath - 27 April 2008 at 7:15pm

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."

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Posted: 27 April 2008 at 7:13pm

Abu Talib meanwhile was sitting in a corner of the Mosque. He came to communicate to them that a Revelation had been sent to his nephew, the Prophet [pbuh] to the effect that ants had eaten away all their proclamation that smacked of injustice and aggression except those parts that bore the Name of Allâh. He contended that he would be ready to give Muhammad [pbuh] up to them if his words proved untrue, otherwise, they would have to recant and repeal their boycott. The Makkans agreed to the soundness of his proposition. Al-Mut‘im went to see the parchment and there he did discover that it was eaten away by ants and nothing was left save the part bearing (in the Name of Allâh).

The proclamation was thus abrogated, and Muhammad [pbuh] and the other people were permitted to leave Ash- Sh‘ib and return home. In the context of this trial to which the Muslims were subjected, the polytheists had a golden opportunity to experience a striking sign of Muhammad’s Prophethood (the white ants eating away the parchment) but to their miserable lot they desisted and augmented in disbelief:

"But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say ‘This is continuous magic." [Al-Qur'an 54:2] [Bukhari (in several chapters); Za'd Al-Ma'ad 2/46; Ibn Hisham 1/350]

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Posted: 27 April 2008 at 9:27pm

asalamu alaykum,

I believe the person who led the prayers even if the prophet (Pbuh) was in Congregation was Abu Bakr (RA).

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lovesakeenah Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 13 June 2007 Location: South Africa Online Status: Offline Posts: 458	Posted: 26 April 2008 at 11:10am
	As-salaam alaykum warahamatullah wabarakatuh Good this thread's still waxing stronger.Sorry,I was offline for a few days ok.just b4 someone else gets this simple one. Umar Ibn Khattab (r.a) reigned as Caliph for ten years masha Allahu before his demise as a martyr... Good to have you back salams_wife. And all the best with your Biology cos am dealing with it too....!!! Edited by lovesakeenah - 26 April 2008 at 11:12am
	"I have conviction that Allah has power over everything.Verily!Allah's knowledge includes and encompasses everything".
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Salams_wife Senior Member Joined: 31 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 296	Posted: 26 April 2008 at 12:03pm
	Thanks and good luck lovesakeenah in your class too. If you are anything like me, studying how a cell works is not on my top ten list of favorite things to do!!!
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Woodstock Groupie Joined: 09 August 2007 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 51	Posted: 26 April 2008 at 4:36pm
	My answers the same as Lovesakeena's He was the second caliph for 10 years from 634 to 644.
	Speak a little Learn alot.
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 27 April 2008 at 12:59am
	As'Salamu Alaikum, I was into the answer, so cud not respond you. Sister [ Salams_wife] , you are an all-rounder. You read all the subjects - history, politics, maths, biology too. Masha-Allahu sister. Hope you enjoy your work. Our best wishes are with you. Sister Sakeenah, say Masha-Allah. Let no evil-eye struck it. Alhamdullilah our thread is getting stronger. Glad to see you back JazakAllah for the answers, esp woodstock, your answer was complete. Next question What was the duration of social boycott of Banu Hashim ? Bro. Hamzah, its not fair. I had seen you online once ! Edited by seekshidayath - 27 April 2008 at 1:00am
	Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: “All the descendants of Adam are sinners, and the best of sinners are those who repent."
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Hamzah Groupie Joined: 04 April 2008 Location: Saudi Arabia Online Status: Offline Posts: 85	Posted: 27 April 2008 at 12:33pm
	Bismillah, Assalam alaikum wa rahmatullah Sorry brother Seekshidayath and all the others, i was away for a dew days, i do alot of travelling. Q-What was the duration of social boycott of Banu Hashim ? It lasted 3 years, it started 7 years after the prophecy, Banu Hashem where isolated in a land belonging to Abu Talib where they were isolated socially and financially, no one was buying nor selling them till they starved and ate the leaves of the trees.
	"Whosoever fears Allah, he will appoint for him a way out, and provide for him from where he does not expect"
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seekshidayath Female Islam Senior Member Joined: 26 March 2006 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 3337	Posted: 27 April 2008 at 7:10pm
	As'Salamu Alaikum, JazakAllahu Khair brother for taking out time for us. And the answer is also correct, masha-Allah. I shall paste its answer in more details as we see our member woodstock is active. Moreover it may add up to all of our knowledge. The pagans of Makkah held a meeting in a place called Wadi Al-Muhassab, and formed a confederation hostile to both Bani Hashim and Bani Al-Muttalib. They decided not to have any business dealings with them nor any sort of inter-marriage. Social relations, visits and even verbal contacts with Muhammad [pbuh] and his supporters would discontinue until the Prophet [pbuh] was given up to them to be killed. The articles of their proclamation, which had provided for merciless measures against Bani Hashim, were committed to writing by an idolater, Bagheed bin ‘Amir bin Hashim and then suspended in Al-Ka‘bah. The Prophet [pbuh] invoked Allâh’s imprecations upon Bagheed, whose hand was later paralysed. [Za'd Al-Ma'ad 2/46] Abu Talib wisely and quietly took stock of the situation and decided to withdraw to a valley on the eastern outskirts of Makkah. Banu Hashim and Banu Al-Muttalib, who followed suit, were thus confined within a narrow pass (Shi‘b of Abu Talib), from the beginning of Muharram, the seventh year of Muhammad’s mission till the tenth year, viz., a period of three years. It was a stifling siege. The supply of food was almost stopped and the people in confinement faced great hardships. The idolaters used to buy whatever food commodities entered Makkah lest they should leak to the people in Ash-Shi‘b, who were so overstrained that they had to eat leaves of trees and skins of animals. Cries of little children suffering from hunger used to be heard clearly. Nothing to eat reached them except, on few occasions, some meagre quantities of food were smuggled by some compassionate Makkans. During ‘the prohibited months’ — when hostilities traditionally ceased, they would leave their confinement and buy food coming from outside Makkah. Even then, the food stuff was unjustly overpriced so that their financial situation would fall short of finding access to it. Hakeem bin Hizam was once on his way to smuggle some wheat to his aunt Khadijah [R]Ç when Abu Jahl intercepted and wanted to debar him. Only when Al-Bukhtari intervened, did Hakeem manage to reach his destination. Abu Talib was so much concerned about the personal safety of his nephew. Whenever people retired to sleep, he would ask the Prophet [pbuh] to lie in his place, but when all the others fell asleep, he would order him to change his place and take another, all of which in an attempt to trick a potential assassin. Despite all odds, Muhammad [pbuh] persisted in his line and his determination and courage never weakened. He continued to go to Al-Ka‘bah and to pray publicly. He used every opportunity to preach to outsiders who visited Makkah for business or on pilgrimage during the sacred months and special seasons of assemblies. This situation ultimately created dissension amongst the various Makkan factions, who were tied with the besieged people by blood relations. After three years of blockade and in Muharram, the tenth year of Muhammad’s mission, the pact was broken. Hisham bin ‘Amr, who used to smuggle some food to Bani Hashim secretly at night, went to see Zuhair bin Abi Omaiyah Al-Makhzoumy and reproached him for resigning to that intolerable treatment meted out to his uncles in exile. The latter pleaded impotence, but agreed to work with Hisham and form a pressure group that would secure the extrication of the exiles. On the ground of motivation by uterine relations, there emerged a group of five people who set out to abrogate the pact and declare all relevant clauses null and void. They were Hisham bin ‘Amr, Zuhair bin Abi, Omaiya, Al-Mut‘im bin ‘Adi, Abu Al-Bukhtari and Zam‘a bin Al-Aswad. They decided to meet in their assembly place and start their self-charged mission from the very precinct of the Sacred House. Zuhair, after circumambulating seven times, along with his colleagues approached the hosts of people there and rebuked them for indulging in the amenities of life whereas their kith and kin of Bani Hashim were perishing on account of starvation and economic boycott. They swore they would never relent until the parchment of boycott was torn to piece and the pact broken at once. Abu Jahl, standing nearby, retorted that it would never be torn. Zam‘a was infuriated and accused Abu Jahl of telling lies, adding that the pact was established and the parchment was written without seeking their approval. Al-Bukhtari intervened and backed Zam‘a. Al-Mut‘im bin ‘Adi and Hisham bin ‘Amr attested to the truthfulness of their two companions. Abu Jahl, with a cunning attempt to liquidate the hot argument that was running counter to his malicious goals, answered that the issue had already been resolved sometime and somewhere before. Edited by seekshidayath - 27 April 2008 at 7:15pm
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	Abu Talib meanwhile was sitting in a corner of the Mosque. He came to communicate to them that a Revelation had been sent to his nephew, the Prophet [pbuh] to the effect that ants had eaten away all their proclamation that smacked of injustice and aggression except those parts that bore the Name of Allâh. He contended that he would be ready to give Muhammad [pbuh] up to them if his words proved untrue, otherwise, they would have to recant and repeal their boycott. The Makkans agreed to the soundness of his proposition. Al-Mut‘im went to see the parchment and there he did discover that it was eaten away by ants and nothing was left save the part bearing (in the Name of Allâh). The proclamation was thus abrogated, and Muhammad [pbuh] and the other people were permitted to leave Ash- Sh‘ib and return home. In the context of this trial to which the Muslims were subjected, the polytheists had a golden opportunity to experience a striking sign of Muhammad’s Prophethood (the white ants eating away the parchment) but to their miserable lot they desisted and augmented in disbelief: "But if they see a Sign, they turn away, and say ‘This is continuous magic." [Al-Qur'an 54:2] [Bukhari (in several chapters); Za'd Al-Ma'ad 2/46; Ibn Hisham 1/350] Next question Who was the person to lead the salah {prayers} even when Prophet {Pbuh} was in congregation ?
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Salams_wife Senior Member Joined: 31 July 2007 Online Status: Offline Posts: 296	Posted: 27 April 2008 at 9:27pm
	asalamu alaykum, I believe the person who led the prayers even if the prophet (Pbuh) was in Congregation was Abu Bakr (RA).
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