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    Posted: 27 February 2007 at 9:04am

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CAIRO, Egypt (CNN) -- The Pentagon is engaged in intensive planning to carry out a bombing campaign in Iran on a day's notice to halt the flow of Iranian aid to sectarian militants in Iraq, Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday.

A bombing campaign could be ready to launch as soon as this spring, Hersh wrote in an article published Sunday in "The New Yorker." Previously, he said, the Bush administration had been focused on plans to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities and possible regime change.

The Pentagon on Friday said in a written statement that "The United States is not planning to go to war with Iran. To suggest anything to the contrary is simply wrong, misleading and mischievous.

"The United States has been very clear with respect to its concerns regarding specific Iranian government activities," the statement continued. "The president has repeatedly stated publicly that this country is going to work with allies in the region to address those concerns through diplomatic efforts."

And Defense Secretary Robert Gates said on February 15: "We are not, you know, for the umpteenth time, we are not looking for an excuse to go to war with Iran. We are not planning a war with Iran."

In the article, Hersh reported that a former senior intelligence official told him that the Pentagon's top brass "were counting on the White House's not being foolish enough to do this in the face of Iraq and the problems it would give the Republicans in 2008."

In an interview on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer," Hersh said U.S. military plans are "very far along" and that U.S. special operations and intelligence forces have been crossing into Iran "for months."

"There has been a lot of jumping over the border, chasing bad guys, or people we think are bad guys," he said in an interview from the Egyptian capital Cairo.

But the U.S. military has been stretched thin by the war in Iraq, which will enter its fifth year next month. And Hersh told CNN the Navy is concerned that, in the event of a U.S. attack, an aircraft carrier in the Strait of Hormuz off Iran's southern coast could be vulnerable to attack by any of Iran's hundreds of patrol boats.

Hersh said he has seen "a lot of evidence" that, in anticipation of a possible attack, Iranians "are digging more holes, moving their leadership into underground bunkers in other places besides Tehran in case of a bombing. They are anticipating the worst."

Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., did not appear alarmed by Hersh's reporting.

"We have contingency plans around the world," Hunter, a presidential hopeful and the former chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, told CNN. "We had contingency plans with the Soviet Union, and we had specific targets. That didn't mean we were planning to attack the Soviet Union."

But Hersh pointed to Vice President Dick Cheney's comments last week in Australia, where he said "all options are on the table" regarding Iran. Though such talk may amount to nothing more than "agitprop, propaganda," Hersh said, "Inside the military, they are planning very seriously, at the president's request, to attack Iran."

Hersh, who has covered the issue for years, said movement toward an incursion appears to be ratcheting up. He predicted that Bush, whose second term ends in January 2009, "is not going to leave office without doing something about Iran."

He criticized the president for refusing to negotiate with Iranian officials unless they agree first to suspend the country's nuclear program.

U.S. officials accuse Iran of attempting to join the elite club of countries that have nuclear weapons; Iran insists its nuclear program is intended solely for peaceful purposes.

Meanwhile, Hersh said the Bush administration has been pumping "a great deal of money" -- some of it from Saudi Arabia, and all of it without congressional oversight -- to fund covert operations in the Middle East to stop the spread of Shiite influence in the so-called Shiite Crescent, which includes Lebanon.

Citing government consultants, Hersh wrote that Cheney was guiding the clandestine side of the effort. His article said that no one from his office or the administration would comment.

Hersh said the administration has decided to pressure Shiites -- whether they be Iranians or Hezbollah, whose leader, Hassan Nasrallah, has described the situation as a civil war.

"As far as he is concerned, we are interested in recreating what is happening in Iraq in Lebanon, that is Sunni versus Shia," Hersh said.

Some of the money, he said, has made its way to three Sunni jihadist groups in Lebanon that are connected to al Qaeda and opposed to Hezbollah, the Shiite militia that sparked a month-long war with Israel last summer.

Hersh said his sources told him that much of the money used to fund the effort has come from Iraq, "where there is all kinds of piles of loose money, pools of cash that could be used for covert operations." He called for a congressional investigation of those allegations.

"We are simply in a situation where this president is really taking his notion of executive privilege to the absolute limit here, running covert operations, using money that was not authorized by Congress, supporting groups indirectly that are involved with the same people that did 9/11, and we should be arresting these people rather than looking the other way," he said.

Hunter, now the ranking Republican on the Armed Services Committee, noted that Iran has not suspended its nuclear program. Under those circumstances, "that military option is on the table. At some point, it may have to be exercised."

However, Rep. Jane Harman, who leads the intelligence subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee, said she was not impressed with the intelligence on Iran's nuclear program. She called it "quite inconclusive," and warned against making any military moves based on that information.

"Let's not make the mistake in Iran that we did in Iraq," Harman added, in a reference to the non-existent weapons of mass destruction that once served as Bush's justification for invading Iraq.

The California Democrat said economic sanctions against Iran appear to be succeeding in persuading it to scale back its nuclear ambitions, and Congress would need to approve any military action.

"I think we have a real shot at changing the policy in Iran in a way that would be very constructive and much more effective than this notion of military action," she said.
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Hersh who came to give a lecture in Egypt about iran and hizbullah
What s really behind this lecture ? what is this hersh aims ?
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In an interview on CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer," Hersh said U.S. military plans are "very far along" and that U.S. special operations and intelligence forces have been crossing into Iran "for months."

Simply they start a psychological war against Iran ... before the real war ...

I would suggest to iranian to start to hunt those Intelligence who are located now in iran ...

I will pray to god that those intelligence commit a lot of mistakes that would lead them to destroy themselves God willing ....
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لا تفتنا بالقنوط من رحمتك

ولا ييأس من رحمتك الا القوم الضالون

اللهم أنت القادر علينا لا تهنا بذنوبنا

اللهم انصرنا و انصر الاسلام بينا
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bullet Posted: 27 February 2007 at 1:17pm

"The Pentagon is engaged in intensive planning to carry out a bombing campaign in Iran on a day's notice to halt the flow of Iranian aid to sectarian militants in Iraq, Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday." (CNN February 26, 2007 )

 

Hahahaha, what a joke !!!

Iran is helping the SAME militias that are helping the United States in Iraq and fighting against the resistance/insurgency. The western Media is desperately trying to continue and convince us into believing that Iran is the enemy of the US and even that Iran is actually against the US war on Iraq What a JOKE!

 

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8411& ;PN=1&TPN=1 

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bullet Posted: 27 February 2007 at 1:35pm
Originally posted by Sawtul Khilafah

"The Pentagon is engaged in intensive planning to carry out a bombing campaign in Iran on a day's notice to halt the flow of Iranian aid to sectarian militants in Iraq, Pulitzer-Prize winning journalist Seymour Hersh said Sunday." (CNN February 26, 2007 )

 

Hahahaha, what a joke !!!

Iran is helping the SAME militias that are helping the United States in Iraq and fighting against the resistance/insurgency. The western Media is desperately trying to continue and convince us into believing that Iran is the enemy of the US and even that Iran is actually against the US war on Iraq What a JOKE!

 

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8411& ; ;PN=1&TPN=1 

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=8411& ; ;PN=1&TPN=2

oh yes if Americans would successed to conveince all muslims to believe as you .. then the americans wouldnt have to suffer in another war as long as theres people as u who can do this job

 

Americans number 1 strategy is making sunna and shia kills eachothers

and I see you are some1 who is really in the right spot for their plan .

يا الله اسالك بعزتك لا تفتن عدونا بالانتصار علينا

لا تفتنا بالقنوط من رحمتك

ولا ييأس من رحمتك الا القوم الضالون

اللهم أنت القادر علينا لا تهنا بذنوبنا

اللهم انصرنا و انصر الاسلام بينا
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bullet Posted: 28 February 2007 at 8:15am
Originally posted by Shery

oh yes if Americans would successed to conveince all muslims to believe as you .. then the americans wouldnt have to suffer in another war as long as theres people as u who can do this job

 

Americans number 1 strategy is making sunna and shia kills eachothers

and I see you are some1 who is really in the right spot for their plan .

 

On the contrary, their plan is to dupe Sunnis into accepting their puppets (Khamenehi, Nasrallah etc.) to be our leaders so that they can control us, just as they are doing to Iran right now.

Infact, this is why they keep saying that Iran is helping the Iraqi resistance, because they want to decieve Sunni Muslims into believing that Iran is on their side, when in truth Iran has been sending anti-resistance Death squads to Iraq and also supporting the puppets of the US, the "new Iraqi Government". So it's clear that the opposite is true.

One of the reasons why they want to control us using fake anti-American and fake religious leaders like Khamenehi is that under their leadership, they can do ANYTHING and claim it is "Islamic" and anyone who speaks against them is immediately accused of being an "agent of Israel".

In Iran, if you show proof that, for example, Khamenehi had secret relations with Israel, they would execute you, and then accuse you of having been an "agent of Israel" and since Iran Appears to be anti-Israel, most people would believe the Government.

The Iranian Government does all kinds of anti-Islam pro-USA things but at the very same time pretends to oppose the United States. They say things like "we should help the war on Taliban, because Taliban are agents of the US"!!!!!!!!!!

Ehhh.... but then, who are the ones fighting against the Taliban ??? The USA!!! So when Iran says "we should help the war on Taliban" what they are actually saying is that they should help the US, but then at the same time they contradict themselves by accusing the Taliban of being agents of the US without any evidence whatsoever.

In other words, if you listen to them carefully what they are actually saying is "We must help the USA to fight against the agents of the USA" !!!!

And if you ask them to show proof that, for example, the Taliban are "agents of the US" they would say: "Khamenehi said so, and Khamenehi knows everything for he is our great Islamic leader"!!!!

Yes it's crazy, but that's how they do it. And in the case of Iraq they say "We must help the new Iraqi Government so that the US would leave Iraq sooner"!!!!

But wait, wasnt the new Iraqi Govenrment installed by the USA in the first place ???? And isnt this exactly what the US wants ? To win the war on Iraq and leave their puppets there ?

And... this same Iranian Government is trying to trick us into thinking that the US hates Iran and that the US wants to attack Iran !!! So why do they want the American war on Iraq to stop if they "know" that the US wants to attack them ????? Surely if America wants to attack Iran then the only thing holding them back is the Iraq war, is it not ????

These are some of the ridiculous contradictions made by the Iranian Government and other Shiah Leaders like Hasan Nasrallah and Muqtada al-Sadr. If you read about the Monafiqeen in the Qur'an you will see the exact description of these people. Their purpose is to decieve - they stab in the back while the USA (their secret ally) attacks the Ummah.



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On the contrary, their plan is to dupe Sunnis into accepting their puppets (Khamenehi, Nasrallah etc.) to be our leaders so that they can control us, just as they are doing to Iran right now.

I dont know what is wrong with nasrallah and khomeni ?

If we had leaders as those in our countries we would at least had some dignity

I bet you are sitting at your home criticising all this people while dozen of muslims dieing everywhere ..

Nothing wrong with nasrallah and khomeni at least they are fighitng for something they believe ... not sitting at home like woman and keep whinning ! as the rest of our leaders .

Infact, this is why they keep saying that Iran is helping the Iraqi resistance, because they want to decieve Sunni Muslims into believing that Iran is on their side, when in truth Iran has been sending anti-resistance Death squads to Iraq and also supporting the puppets of the US, the "new Iraqi Government". So it's clear that the opposite is true.

I smell sedition here ...

maybe it wuld work with some1 else but not me .

One of the reasons why they want to control us using fake anti-American and fake religious leaders like Khamenehi is that under their leadership, they can do ANYTHING and claim it is "Islamic" and anyone who speaks against them is immediately accused of being an "agent of Israel".

Tell me who did invade who

did iran is the one who attack iraq or iraq is the SUNNI country who attacked iran ?

blessed by ( RAMSEFELD ) ?

Give me one single bad thing iran did to the muslims country that makes you do more seditions between muslims

Sorry man I HAVE ZERO TRUST ON YOU AND ON ALL WHAT YOU SAY >>

many CIA pretend to be muslims .. and I know they exist in all forums .

In Iran, if you show proof that, for example, Khamenehi had secret relations with Israel, they would execute you, and then accuse you of having been an "agent of Israel" and since Iran Appears to be anti-Israel, most people would believe the Government.

iran has their own strategy .. and keep showing me that You are CIA mossad agent .. Thank you .

 

The Iranian Government does all kinds of anti-Islam pro-USA things but at the very same time pretends to oppose the United States. They say things like "we should help the war on Taliban, because Taliban are agents of the US"!!!!!!!!!!

Well gives me sources of your statments ...

beside I want sources that I can trust

Beside even if you bring those source your words to me as mirage

another person who only seek sedition and hatred between muslims .

if you are muslim

Many mossad and cia have a great knowledge of quoran and sharia and sunna ... and that is how many of our beliefs are corrupted .

Ehhh.... but then, who are the ones fighting against the Taliban ??? The USA!!! So when Iran says "we should help the war on Taliban" what they are actually saying is that they should help the US, but then at the same time they contradict themselves by accusing the Taliban of being agents of the US without any evidence whatsoever.

The situation of Taliban is really not very obvious and no one can understand their aims ...

And one day taliban was just supported by USA to kill russian ..

And the one who is your ally today is your enemy tomorrow

So i only care about the muslims who work to unify islam not to increase the gap between muslims

The one who really love allah and islam wouldnt speak as you do now

 

What are you looking for ? that we muslims fight iran and hizbullah

what is your real aims ? why you are publishing that between muslims

To make muslims hates eachother

You should feel ashamed ... go and read quoran

Sedition is WORSE THAN KILL. ( ataky allah ) if you are a real muslim

though there s dozen of muslims who sell their soul to satan 

In other words, if you listen to them carefully what they are actually saying is "We must help the USA to fight against the agents of the USA" !!!!

I hope you can listen to what you are saying

cuz you sound to me very Bad person who has nothing in mind but sedition ... be careful ..

 

And if you ask them to show proof that, for example, the Taliban are "agents of the US" they would say: "Khamenehi said so, and Khamenehi knows everything for he is our great Islamic leader"!!!!

Yes it's crazy, but that's how they do it. And in the case of Iraq they say "We must help the new Iraqi Government so that the US would leave Iraq sooner"!!!!

But wait, wasnt the new Iraqi Govenrment installed by the USA in the first place ???? And isnt this exactly what the US wants ? To win the war on Iraq and leave their puppets there ?

And... this same Iranian Government is trying to trick us into thinking that the US hates Iran and that the US wants to attack Iran !!! So why do they want the American war on Iraq to stop if they "know" that the US wants to attack them ????? Surely if America wants to attack Iran then the only thing holding them back is the Iraq war, is it not ????

These are some of the rediculous contradictions made by the Iranian Government and other Shiah Leaders like Hasan Nasrallah and Muqtada al-Sadr. If you read about the Monafiqeen in the Qur'an you will see the exact description of these people. Their purpose is to decieve - they stab in the back while the USA (their secret ally) attacks the Ummah.

Well well well

If you are such a brave warrior ... and feel that shia are betrayer and bad why dont you go and defend our countries from domination and torture .. and instead of really focus with shia ... you better focus on israel who kills dozen of palestnian every day ..

If i were you i would be ashamed from what I have wrote here

Ataky allah

Unless you are just a CIA agent who think he is smart enough to fool muslims .

Dont argue with me again .. cuz you are not accepted by me

ANYONE WHO TRY TO MAKE SEDITION BETWEEN MUSLIMS
AND TURN HIS HEAD AWAY  FROM OUR REAL ENEMIES
HE IS MY ENEMY TOO



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يا الله اسالك بعزتك لا تفتن عدونا بالانتصار علينا

لا تفتنا بالقنوط من رحمتك

ولا ييأس من رحمتك الا القوم الضالون

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bullet Posted: 28 February 2007 at 1:59pm

Originally posted by Shery

ANYONE WHO TRY TO MAKE SEDITION BETWEEN MUSLIMS
AND TURN HIS HEAD AWAY  FROM OUR REAL ENEMIES
HE IS MY ENEMY TOO

Open your eyes, this is Exactly what Iran is doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. They fund and morally support the same people whom the US has brought to power in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran even sends death squads to these countries to protect the American forces there.

Much of what you say I have already answered and explained on my earlier posts and you yourself say that even if I show proof it wont change your mind so I guess there's no point in me answering you, but I just wanted to point out the contradiction you made in your post - since Iran is doing exactly what you just accused me of 

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bullet Posted: 28 February 2007 at 2:22pm
Originally posted by Sawtul Khilafah

Originally posted by Shery

ANYONE WHO TRY TO MAKE SEDITION BETWEEN MUSLIMS
AND TURN HIS HEAD AWAY  FROM OUR REAL ENEMIES
HE IS MY ENEMY TOO

Open your eyes, this is Exactly what Iran is doing in Afghanistan and Iraq. They fund and morally support the same people whom the US has brought to power in Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran even sends death squads to these countries to protect the American forces there.

Much of what you say I have already answered and explained on my earlier posts and you yourself say that even if I show proof it wont change your mind so I guess there's no point in me answering you, but I just wanted to point out the contradiction you made in your post - since Iran is doing exactly what you just accused me of 

 

Well and what about Hossini mubark who accept Ehud olmert and bush himself at sharm el sheikh ? what about king of jordan and saudia who sell their mothers to USA ?

So you cant see but iran ? Shame on you .

beside since when iran did attack any arab country

though iraq THE SUNNA is the one who attacked iran ...

Stop pretending to be some1 peaceful cuz if you are real faithful person ... you would NEVER EVER TRY TO MAKE SEDITION between muslims while OUR REAL ENEMY IS VERY CLEAR AND OBVIOUS .

 

You again should be ashamed of trying to use the gap between sunna and shia and increase it ... that is not a muslim behaviour .



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يا الله اسالك بعزتك لا تفتن عدونا بالانتصار علينا

لا تفتنا بالقنوط من رحمتك

ولا ييأس من رحمتك الا القوم الضالون

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اللهم انصرنا و انصر الاسلام بينا
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bullet Posted: 28 February 2007 at 4:14pm

Originally posted by Shery

Well and what about Hossini mubark who accept Ehud olmert and bush himself at sharm el sheikh ? what about king of jordan and saudia who sell their mothers to USA ?

What Im saying is that Iran is as bad as these other puppet Governments (Egypt, Jordan, Pakistan, Turkey, etc. etc. etc.) even though they appear religious and appear anti-American.

This is why I say they are hypocrites/Monafiqeen, because they appear religious and anti-American while their actions are against Islam and help America and Israel.

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