Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin  Old ForumOld Forum  Twitter  Facebook
Advertisement:
         

Groups – Men (Brothers)
 IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum : Culture & Community : Groups – Men (Brothers)
Message Icon Topic: About Dogs? Post Reply Post New Topic
<< Prev Page  of 6 Next >>
Author Message
Knowledge01
 
Senior Member
Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: 19 March 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 457
Quote Knowledge01 Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 12:25pm
Originally posted by Suleyman

Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh Brothers in Islam,

 What do you think about dogs?...do you love?, or hate?...what are the position of the dogs in Islam?...i need some advices absolutely their protections inside the houses...i know some hadiths;but Imam Gahazali's comment on these hadiths and the dogs ares so interesting and deeply...how can we understand the real meanings of these hadiths?...Here is an sample from an traditional Turkish dog which is known as Kangals,i love walking with them while climbing to the higher mountains at the summer vacations,i feel safe for the wolves...they are a little bit big,my uncle feeds,but the pic is taken from the east side of Turkey belonging to a shepard...



Wa Alaikum Salam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu,

Dogs are generally misunderstod in Islam and the Islamic perspective of dogs is generally misunderstood.

We should not hate or love dogs.  Not all dogs are bad, not all dogs are good.

The ahadith on this subject say one thing and which is that dogs which are ALL black are shayateen.  So naturally, you should stay away from them.

I have been asked if ALL DOGS which are all black are shayateen.  There is a simple answer to this- Allahu Alim.
< id="kpfLog" src="http://127.0.0.1:44501/pl.?START_LOG" onload="destroy(this)" STYLE='display: none'>

Edited by Knowledge01
IP IP Logged
Angela
 Christian
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 July 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2555
Quote Angela Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:18pm

I wonder why that is, Knowledge.  The most gentle, loyal dog I ever knew was my cousin's dog Bear.  He was half german sheppard, half golden retriever....born black as the night. 

He was so obedient that once my aunt was trying to put her boys in their car seats and he tried to get into the car.  She told him not yet, sit down and wait.  He did.  In her frazzle because Brian was crying, she forgot to tell him it was okay and got in the car, driving off. 

When my Mother went out later to put out her note for the Milk Man, he was still sitting in the exact spot, paw in air, waiting for my Aunt to tell him he could move.

He never bit anyone, always obeyed and was very protective of the two boys.  He brought you a treat (usually an old shoe) whenever you showed up because they got him at halloween. 

Of all the dogs I've owned, that black dog was the most gentle and most obedient and loyal dog I've ever met.

 

There is alot of superstition that is mixed into religions from the cultures that they originated.  For example the Yule Log and the Christmas tree are pagan symbols transformed into Christian symbols.

Muhammed (pbuh) was a mortal man, ever consider he just didn't like dogs?    Hadiths are not protected like the Quran. 

 

Besides, having a dog lick you just means you have to renew your wudu.  Same if you have gas.

And as a cat owner.  Cats are not clean...they are covered in spit, just watch one groom once.  LOL

 

IP IP Logged
Suleyman
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 10 March 2003
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3324
Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:23pm
Originally posted by Angela

And as a cat owner.  Cats are not clean...they are covered in spit, just watch one groom once.  LOL

Run Angela Run!,before Sister Ummziba reads these words...Ziba is her cat's name and Umm means mother of "Ziba"...



Edited by Suleyman
IP IP Logged
Suleyman
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 10 March 2003
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3324
Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:31pm
I love dogs outside of the house and normally we feed them for security,you know Dobermans do bark too much and can harm children,i love Kangals,one of it moves with my mom in the darkness while my mom goes to her sisters house,he follows and controls where she goes and waits in front of the door step till she turns back from the house then walks back with my mom till to the door of our house...i feel so relax with his help while i work in the city i can only go at the weekends...also in country side there can be some wild animals may enter to the garden something like snake or some type of wolves,they also control them,i see them as the blessings of Allah...
IP IP Logged
Angela
 Christian
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 11 July 2005
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2555
Quote Angela Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by Suleyman

Originally posted by Angela

And as a cat owner.  Cats are not clean...they are covered in spit, just watch one groom once.  LOL

Run Angela Run!,before Sister Ummziba reads these words...Ziba is her cat's name and Umm means mother of "Ziba"...

Then call me UmmChabat

IP IP Logged
Suleyman
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 10 March 2003
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3324
Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:53pm

...wonderful one!....

 

IP IP Logged
ummziba
Female  Islam
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 March 2005
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1158
Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:54pm

Oh Angela, them's fighting words   !!!

Seriously though, many Muslims have a skewed idea about dogs.  All the ones I've met in person not only are afraid of dogs, they also hate them.  This is plain wrong as we are supposed to be kind and humane to all of Allahs creatures.

The idea of dogs being dirty (as opposed to cats or other critters) comes from the fact that dogs, and pigs as well, are the only critters who eat feces - true.  Their own or anybody else's.  This is why the saliva of dogs is considered dirty.

It is not a dog versus cat contest, there are good and bad in both and certainly we are to be kind to every creature, even the ones who have disgusting eating habits .

A funny story comes to mind...when I was growing up my family had a beagle (a sweet and gentle dog).  When she would come inside from doing her business outdoors in the winter, my sister and I would find her playing with something - tossing it forward and chasing it and pouncing on it and tossing it again.  We would run for a paper towel because we would always know that the dog had brought in a frozen piece of her "you know what" to play with!  True story .

Peace, ummziba. (cats rule!, sorry, couldn't resist - Ziba made me do it!)

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
IP IP Logged
Suleyman
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member


Joined: 10 March 2003
Location: Turkey
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3324
Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 12 July 2006 at 1:57pm
I said and i run away first...
IP IP Logged
<< Prev Page  of 6 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed herein contain positions and viewpoints that are not necessarily those of IslamiCity. This forum is offered to stimulate dialogue and discussion in our continuing mission of being an educational organization.
If there is any issue with any of the postings please email to icforum at islamicity.com or if you are a forum's member you can use the report button.

Note: The 99 names of Allah avatars are courtesy of www.arthafez.com

Advertisement:



Sponsored by:
Islamicity Membership Program:
IslamiCity Donation Program  http://www.islamicity.com/Donate
IslamiCity Arabic eLearning http://www.islamiCity.com/ArabAcademy
Complete Domain & Hosting Solutions www.icDomain.com
Home for Muslim Tunes www.icTunes.com
Islamic Video Collections www.islamiTV.com
IslamiCity Marriage Site www.icMarriage.com