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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 10:06am

Hi Patty,

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I don't know where all of you live, what religion you are devotees of, or much else....but I can tell you this, you do NOT know a LOT about most Americans.

The USA; Christian but not always particularly devoted; and I, being a Yank born and bred, know as much as you do about this country and culture, even if I haven’t lived as long.  So there.

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You are taking excerpts from st**id, idiotic programming and attempting to portray the majority of Americans as fitting into your particular "potter's mold".

Remember the gong show?  Well, now hear this: Gong!  Please permit me to state the obvious: the products of one’s culture are a reflection of that culture.  I am commenting upon some of those products, especially, in this case, products of "popular" culture, and I will continue to comment upon them.

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Well, I've got a newsflash for you …

Bring it on.

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… (Servie, I am a little (though not much) surprised at your bias) …

You needn’t be.  If you are taking issue with my tendency to quote the ultra-Conservative and at times annoying Robert Bork, the simple explanation is that I consider him to be a much more intelligent, effective and articulate “culture warrior” than such Murdochian sock-puppets as Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity.

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… MANY MORE AMERICANS ARE QUITE INFORMED ON ALL ISSUES, DON'T WATCH THE TRASHY SHOWS YOU THINK THEY WATCH, AND HAVE QUITE INTELLIGENT LIBRARIES (NO, NOT PORN) IN THEIR HOMES.

Yeah, right, whatever, sure.  Our grandparents.  But, then again, they don’t get arrested for drug possession in Stockholm and are not called “artists” by the sniveling journalists at Associated Press either.  

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They [Americans] also have wide circles of friends who do/have the same, and are involved in many organizations where extremely enlightening and varied discussions transpire.

That reminds me of my ill-fated campaign to bring back Dick Cavett!   

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Most Americans are truly disgusted with American Idol …

Have ye any proof?  The ratings, it seems to me, suggest otherwise.  I think idolatry of this type is obviously a national past-time.

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… (I've never watched more than 3 minutes of one show) …

Well, when you did watch, did it have this effect on you ():  http://stb.msn.com/i/FB/7E33BC575C59939E785C88CE9A5B4E.jpg?

 Follow story here: http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=43F766A9-019E-40FB-A90B-3A B99091AE23&t=c152&f=06/64&p=hotvideo_celebrity&a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;a mp;fg=&GT1=9145

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… Anna Nichol Smith? (who cares)...sorry she died, that's it!

With an attitude like that, I don’t think that Fox News and the celebrity-eating and regurgitating press is going to hire you for their next grand buffet.  I call it an inverted, post-modernist Feast of the Assumption of the (think Madonna’s song here) “like a” Virgin and the main course, or entrée, is as usual carrion!  It’s almost a Golden Corral -all the celebrities one can eat!

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We have quite an extensive library in our home, watch mostly documentaries on television when we do watch it.....and ignore news channels.  We get our news from reading, and watching it on PBS.  All of our friends do the same.  We have lived many different places, now preferring Maine because of the lack of crime, beauty of nature here, and peacefulness, AS WELL AS the easy availability of culture, libraries, arts, good conversation, and the knowledge that many more people are likely to feel as we feel regarding trashy news reporters, game shows (never), and immoral activities increasing in the world...NOT just in the US.

You’re cute.

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We are considered middle class, but have several close friends who are quite wealthy and informed.  Strange as it may sound, they love us for who we are.

I love you for who you are too.

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Our closest friends are a multi-millionaire couple...the husband of this union is a world renowned oncologist, who's name you would recognize immediately if I gave it out, which, of course, I will not do.

It doesn’t matter because I could not identify any oncologist in the world by name, even if you asked me.  But I think we ought to contact Merv Griffin because we might have the makings of a new game show here: name that oncologist.  By the way, has this mysterious oncologist ever been featured as a guest rags-to-riches story in one of President Bush’s State of the Union speeches, like Julie Aigner-Clark was?  As I said, I love those stories, they’re really inspiring!

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So, please stop throwing the proverbial "blanket coverage" over all, or most, Americans as being inbred neanderthals who do nothing but imbibe, read porno, and watch game shows.
 

That sounds like a Jerry Springer show.

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What a lack of knowledge you are exhibiting!!!

If you don’t like my Robert Bork quotes, then write and publish a book of your own and I will quote you.

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I have read it for years on here, and have never rebelled against it....until now.

Who are you trying to kid?  In all the delightful years that we have been together on this board, you’ve never not been a rebel.  I think that was bad grammar, but who cares?          

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We are all just people, and we are not what you are trying to make us, as Americans, out to be.

Robert Bork, Arnold J. Toynbee, Ortega y Gassett, Peter Hitchens, President Bush and Newsweek, to name but a few who have been quoted in this thread, know what we Americans are and not one of them is trying to “make us out to be anything.”

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I think it would serve each one of you well to actually talk to more Americans from many sections of this country.  Try to get to know more than just a few who are exploited by the news as the "norm".

I tried to talk to a few adolescents, hither, thither and yon, but they had their headphones on and only grunted something from Snoop Dog back in return.

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See, now you've really got me wound up like a two dollar clock!

Speaking of clocks and therefore time, isn’t it time for the Howard Stern show?

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Quote Duende Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 11:56am
Patty, calm down, you should have noticed by now that you and all
your wonderful intelligent educated and cultured friends are in the
MINORITY.

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Quote Patty Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 2:05pm

Carry on, oh wise ones.  Sorry I decided to express my opinion.  As I said, Duende, my husband and I are NOT wealthy.  We are middle class.  I have been quite poor...I grew up in Appalachia. 

Serv, just as a side note....not that it matters, when I watched the one 3 minute episode of American Idol, I was at a friend's home on vacation......in Nova Scotia.

 

Patty

I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future.
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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 22 March 2007 at 5:33pm

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Serv, just as a side note....not that it matters …

But Patty, your side notes always matter to me, you know that. Now stop being so self-effacing and feel free to continue to rant either along with or opposed to the lot of us, as the case may be.

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… when I watched the one 3 minute episode of American Idol, I was at a friend's home on vacation......in Nova Scotia

Oh, no, Servie says!  Call in Albert Gore!  Please don’t tell me that we are, as a body, evacuating our toxic cultural waste upon the otherwise pristine and formerly virginal Nova Scotia.  As if acid rain isn't bad enough.  Watch out, UmmZiba and all of my other Canadian partners up north in free trade.  I mean, I knew that our popular culture needed a good colonic irrigation, or cleanse, but that is truly shameless! 

By the way, for those -I have no doubt- few of you who might be interested, I realize that the honorable, at least at times, Robert Bork has been on my show, Radio Free Serv, a bit too often lately.  I don’t want him to become over-exposed and to thus fall in the ratings, so I have decided to reach way, way, back into the archives and to call in another eloquent American bloke, dedicated, in this case, to the fine art of ranting.

I recently discovered him while I was looking through an old book shop and I plan to make him a somewhat belated star.  He wrote in another war era, because, after all, America is always at war, the early 1940’s, and was a literate, world-wise, pedantic and seriously disgruntled son of a Presbyterian minister.  Unlike Robert Bork in our time, though, this author kicked against the cactus of what was to him, at that time, an altogether too restrictive, entrenched and hypocritical American morality.  The people in Lawrence Welk's audience (who I saw in the re-run of the '70's show) probably would neither have muched liked him nor appreciated some of his more controversial points.

Anyway, some of his observations are worth noting, even if his accusative, funny book, “Generation of Vipers,” has, at least according to the knowing Jonathan Yardley at the Washington Post, since quite lost its bite.  But hey, haven’t a lot of us lost our bite?  Just ask Faye Dunaway, who has recently and fortunately regained hers (see above).

With that said, Ladies, Gentlemen, Wimmin and Transgendered others of the listening and participating audience, please give a warm welcome to Mr. Philip Wylie, who enters saying …

“We are a “literate” nation.  But there are not a million adults in America today [1942] who could comprehend even this casual treatise.  There are hardly a million who voluntarily read nonfiction books.  That is a satisfactory comment on the educational system, from the standpoint of the essayist.  It shows that, in the matter of teaching English, either our schools are incompetent to deal with our moppets or else society has produced a gaggle of Dodger fans, impervious to any literary schooling.

English, it happens, is our only common means of communication … The way to teach English would be to divide pupils by aptitude rather than by age, to insist on grammatical precision from the start … Children who are unable to learn or who will not learn the exact use of the only tongue in which, probably, they will ever try to articulate their ideas should not be permitted to listen to radios, go to movies, or otherwise amuse themselves with the ideo-onanisms [] of our society …

There must be reason in our collective behavior soon, as all can perceive.  There must be an end to a government of boobs [slang term for 'incompetents'], by boobs, for boobs.  Because there are already more boobs in our society than wise men, or even than scrupulous men, and the machines devised by science are so exact, so productive, and so powerful that a government which is in the hands of boobs will as surely commit national suicide as a sixteen-year-old kid, blind drunk on a blind curve, doing eighty in a twelve-cylinder sedan.”

Ideo-onanisms.”  Ha!  Hey, speaking of drinks, I need one (of freshly squeezed, organic carrot juice).

This is Radio Free Serv, signing off ...

Ref:  Wylie, Philip, Generation of Vipers, Ferris Printing Co., New York, 1942, pp. 87-89



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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 29 March 2007 at 11:36am

Well, thank you Mr. Wylie, and I just might invite you to return sometime.

Until someone correctly answers one of the burning questions which has been, well, weighing upon my possibly fever-stricken mind (and which I asked at one point above), no one is eligible to win the Big, Shiny Prize behind curtain number three.  That prize, be assured, when once the curtain is withdrawn and the object is revealed, is enough to cause us all to gasp, wriggle and squirm with covetousness and greed.

The question, again, is this: how many pounds, or kilos, did Oprah Winfrey lose last week?  Enquiring minds, like mine, want to know.

While you think about it, this is what happened to me when I went to buy some apple juice.  Time was short, and though I did briefly consider taking National Enquirer’s guided tour “Inside Britney’s Breakdown,” this headline, instead, screamed at me from the grocery store's check-out line and forced me to read it:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Life-Style-4-07-Skinny-911-Carrie-Underw ood-Mary-Kate_W0QQitemZ180100070570QQcategoryZ280QQcmdZViewI tem#ebayphotohosting

I think the celebrity in the center might be one of those two girls with three names, Mary, Kate and Ashley, and, at least in these headlines, it never seems quite clear to me if she is strung out on blow (cocaine) or suffering from an eating disorder.  Maybe it’s both.  Sometimes, when I try to figure it out, looking first this way and then that, I resemble a spectator at Wimbledon.

Anyway, back to weightier issues, when I finally returned to the Internet, I noticed that ABC News Good Morning America asked, concerning in this case the celebrity on the far right, Star Jones, and almost as if to tease with the postulated uncertainty of it all, “What’s Behind Star’s Metamorphosis?”

http://www.abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2956569

Would anyone care to speculate?

 

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Quote hat2010 Replybullet Posted: 18 May 2007 at 2:44pm
"The question, again, is this: how many pounds, or kilos, did Oprah Winfrey
lose last week?"

Trick question. Oprah's 'weight' is correctly measured in joules and/or
kilowatt-hours.

I'll forfeit the shiny prize (since I already have one) and donate it to the
Resurrection of Baudrillard's Absolute Event Community since they are better
armed to take on these big questions along your side, Mighty Serv.
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Quote Whisper Replybullet Posted: 18 May 2007 at 10:55pm
What a home coming present! Que todo de mi familia en una pisina!
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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2007 at 3:27pm

On this bleak day, when my (Radio Free Serv’s) ratings are at their reported lowest and the FCC are threatening to close me down on decency charges –that is to say, on charges of being overly decent- I am pleased to see that a couple of listeners have called in.

 

Welcome back, Whisper!  Things are 2 boring around here when U R gone.  Next time, don’t be gone so long.

 

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Trick question. Oprah's 'weight' is correctly measured in joules and/or kilowatt-hours.

 

Dear Jam, it is not a trick question, but nice try.  There has to be a definite answer and I intend to find it and, if need be, win my own shiny prize.  I strongly suspect but cannot prove that, just today, while untold millions of primarily American women watched Ms. Winfrey on the tube, or telley, they thought something very much like this to themselves:

 

“Hmmm, I wonder how many pounds, or kilos, Oprah lost (or gained) last week?”

 

I don’t think they are doing a joules-to-pounds conversion with their TV Guides and calorie counters.  I also notice, and this is less important but seems at least thematically related, that one of our arbiters of acceptable national discourse, ABC’s Good Morning America, all wily and smiley as usual, seems yet to have satisfactorily answered their own, yes, tantalizing question concerning just what, exactly, is behind Star Jones’s “metamorphosis.”  

 

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