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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:36am

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Have you converted to Islam brother? have u learned how to pray?

I'm a sister. No I have not converted to islam. I am still learning and seeking.

Kay

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:06am

Oh sorry my apologies I didnt mean to offend you.

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:27am

you didn't offend me . One of the reason I have not said the shahada is because I am scared. I can say the first part with no problem, but the second part i have reseravation about. I've ordered the book about Mohammad (pbuh). I am also not sure I can be a good Muslim and say my prayers 5 times a day and live in the rules that the Qu'ran states. I also expect to have problems with family and friends.

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:45am

Hopefully if you read the book it will change your book when you get to know who he really was. I wish you the best, may Allah bless you ;)

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:49am

Well you know no one can be perfect, its impossible, only Allah is perfect. We all struggle to live by the rules of the Quran, and Allah helps us, and even if we dont, we ask for His forgiveness and He forgives us. Islam isnt about being perfect you know, its about trying to be the best you can by living to the best of your good potential. God didnt create us to be perfect, He has His angels for that. he created us unperfect so that when we sin we turn to Him and repent therfore remembering Him and his mercy on us, and in a form, worship him.

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 4:51pm

Peace... blessed Eid and Holiday season, y'all...

"No no no. This is a sect which links itself to Islam but is very far away
from Islam. Beware of such things. "

Rubbish. Even a wiki of Sufism is a more sober step towards an answer -
which is to say, towards 'answers' and not 'an answer' regarding such a
complicated and involved a subject.

For myself, I am currently reading the works of Ibn Arabi - which is a
dense read but rewarding once you have read (and are familiar with) the
Holy Quran. Rumi can awaken you to something of the sufi experience,
the sufi adventure.

I live in a country absolutely swimming with Islamic brotherhoods, most
of which could be called sufi - if they were more into wasting time with
taxonomy than actively loving God.

As far as your reservations on the second part of the shahada, you aren't
alone to say the least.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_Alone

There is a list of people at the bottom of that page two very different
viewpoints on what our relationship to the prophet should be, to give you
a balanced view.

Kay, with love and respect, if you still haven't read the Quran you are
getting way, way ahead of yourself. The new translation by Thomas
Cleary has come out to fantastic reviews...

God help us all,

Jamal Morelli

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:21pm

This is an article which exposes some of the Suffists hidden characteristics:

http://www.islamawareness.net/Deviant/Sufi/truth.html

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Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:24pm

In end I would also like to tell you sister that gaining Allah is better than losing the entire world. And heaven is better than everything this world can give you and everything it has. Allah is much more dearer than your or my friends for that matter. There comes a time in everyones life where has has to make critical decisions, to be or not to be, that is the question.

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senekerk Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 161	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:36am
	*Originally posted by Arab* Have you converted to Islam brother? have u learned how to pray? I'm a sister. No I have not converted to islam. I am still learning and seeking.
	Kay
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Arab Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 6:06am
	Oh sorry my apologies I didnt mean to offend you.
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senekerk Senior Member Joined: 08 December 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 161	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:27am
	you didn't offend me . One of the reason I have not said the shahada is because I am scared. I can say the first part with no problem, but the second part i have reseravation about. I've ordered the book about Mohammad (pbuh). I am also not sure I can be a good Muslim and say my prayers 5 times a day and live in the rules that the Qu'ran states. I also expect to have problems with family and friends.
	Kay
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Arab Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:45am
	Hopefully if you read the book it will change your book when you get to know who he really was. I wish you the best, may Allah bless you ;)
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Arab Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 7:49am
	Well you know no one can be perfect, its impossible, only Allah is perfect. We all struggle to live by the rules of the Quran, and Allah helps us, and even if we dont, we ask for His forgiveness and He forgives us. Islam isnt about being perfect you know, its about trying to be the best you can by living to the best of your good potential. God didnt create us to be perfect, He has His angels for that. he created us unperfect so that when we sin we turn to Him and repent therfore remembering Him and his mercy on us, and in a form, worship him. Edited by Arab
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hat2010 Senior Member Joined: 10 October 2006 Location: Neutral Zone Online Status: Offline Posts: 562	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 4:51pm
	Peace... blessed Eid and Holiday season, y'all... "No no no. This is a sect which links itself to Islam but is very far away from Islam. Beware of such things. " Rubbish. Even a wiki of Sufism is a more sober step towards an answer - which is to say, towards 'answers' and not 'an answer' regarding such a complicated and involved a subject. For myself, I am currently reading the works of Ibn Arabi - which is a dense read but rewarding once you have read (and are familiar with) the Holy Quran. Rumi can awaken you to something of the sufi experience, the sufi adventure. I live in a country absolutely swimming with Islamic brotherhoods, most of which could be called sufi - if they were more into wasting time with taxonomy than actively loving God. As far as your reservations on the second part of the shahada, you aren't alone to say the least. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran_Alone There is a list of people at the bottom of that page two very different viewpoints on what our relationship to the prophet should be, to give you a balanced view. Kay, with love and respect, if you still haven't read the Quran you are getting way, way ahead of yourself. The new translation by Thomas Cleary has come out to fantastic reviews... God help us all, Jamal Morelli
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Arab Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:21pm
	This is an article which exposes some of the Suffists hidden characteristics: http://www.islamawareness.net/Deviant/Sufi/truth.html
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Arab Senior Member Joined: 15 December 2006 Location: Kuwait Online Status: Offline Posts: 256	Posted: 27 December 2006 at 5:24pm
	In end I would also like to tell you sister that gaining Allah is better than losing the entire world. And heaven is better than everything this world can give you and everything it has. Allah is much more dearer than your or my friends for that matter. There comes a time in everyones life where has has to make critical decisions, to be or not to be, that is the question.
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