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We do not understand the value of time as the past generations did, imam Shafi said: “this world is but a moment so we should make it a moment of obedience”
imam ghazali said: "this world ls like a friend to you it wants to give you everything, all the wealth, fame, name, it wants to even stay with you but then suddenly it leaves you there in the dark, deep, black hole, - this is when we die!!!

"if you put your head in the lion and it eats your head then it your fault so before our time runs out and we go to the other realm we must change our conditions through doing tazkiyah tul nafs "

Subhanallah what an analogy of this world!
We should seek forgiveness from Allah (Swt) before our time runs out.
This was adapted from www.zawiyah.org for more information e-mail info@zawiyah.org.
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Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2005 at 11:10am

Originally posted by fanaofallah

We do not understand the value of time as the past generations did, imam Shafi said: “this world is but a moment so we should make it a moment of obedience”
imam ghazali said: "this world ls like a friend to you it wants to give you everything, all the wealth, fame, name, it wants to even stay with you but then suddenly it leaves you there in the dark, deep, black hole, - this is when we die!!!

"if you put your head in the lion and it eats your head then it your fault so before our time runs out and we go to the other realm we must change our conditions through doing tazkiyah tul nafs "

Subhanallah what an analogy of this world!
We should seek forgiveness from Allah (Swt) before our time runs out.
This was adapted from www.zawiyah.org for more information e-mail info@zawiyah.org.

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh,

 Brother welcome to islamicity rationals board,i wish you will love ur stay,insh'Allah...Wa Salaam...

 

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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2005 at 1:41pm

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah,

Welcome to the boards, alhamdulillah. Ideas like yours are wanting on this forum, so I hope you stay and share some of your time with us, insha allah.

Originally posted by fanaofallah



"if you put your head in the lion and it eats your head then it your fault so before our time runs out and we go to the other realm we must change our conditions through doing tazkiyah tul nafs "

Once I asked a brother how do we go about to do tazkiya (in a systematic and precise manner), and he said, sis, this is very complicated dont ask me .... that was the end it. I cannot trust just anybody to guide me on this road, thus am gropping on my own so far.

I want to ask you one question. Those who draw our attention towards tazkiya and tahara, are they also willing to show concrete directions, or these are just passing suggestions.

Jazak allah khair,

Maa salaama,

Nausheen

Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Quote fanaofallah Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2005 at 3:09pm

yes sister i follow a tarqeeah named tareeqah muhammadiyah, this tariq is unique in teh sence that teh wayfarer himself/herself knows that they are getting close to allah each day please read the following article to know the inportance of tazkiyah and to understand a little about the tareeqah

:sl:

  the importance of tazkiyah tul-nafs can not be stressed enough times, people keep going on about the importance of knowledge, but what seems to have happened know is that people have left tazkiyah tun nafs, which is basically purifying the heart from the spiritual diseases, for example: Jealousy, arrogance etc... They are right in some aspect but tazkiyah is also needed.

We can some what see the importance of this in the situation of Satan (iblis). when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) as we know the story, who can claim that he/she will or has more knowledge than satan except the prophets, he not only had knowledge but he had it with certainty, meaning that he saw with his own eyes the paradise, hell, the angels, the prophets and moreover he saw Allah (swt)

not only that but he even spoke to Allah (swt), but having all this knowledge did not help him one bit, for instance when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) and told to bow he did not, therefore he became expelled and cursed forever. There his evil spiritual heart disease came out and it manifested. this then as we know caused him to fall, know one may ask that if he had all this knowledge then how come he still fell, the answer is that he did not do tazkiyah on himself and therefore even though having all this knowledge he still fell, for the very reason that he could not implement his knowledge properly, he just was implementing it outwardly and not inwardly and therefore when he was put to the test he failed drastically.

Allah (swt) himself stresses the importance of Tazkiyah tun nafs in sura shams: to the nearest meaning that

"Successful is the one who has purified himself"

The heirs of the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) are the Awliyah (the people who have purified themselves) who have purified themselves inwardly and outwardly, by following the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) inwardly e.g. by not hating another Muslim brother which the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) was like inwardly, And by following the Sunnah outwardly. like our past generations for example: Syedina Abdul Azeez Dabbagh (r.a) who lived and died in Fez, morocco (Maghrib), imam Ghazali, shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani etc... not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc...

The people who have purified themselves (the Awliyah) are the ones of whom Allah (swt) praises them in front of angels and tells them look such and such a person is my obedient slave.

People keep on going to conferences after conferences but they do not change one bit they stay exactly the same as they had before they went to the talk. And once the talk has been finished then they straight away go home put the TV on and completely forget about the talk or seminar they had just been to, and the lessons they had learnt,

Because talks after talks will not change a person unless he takes manifest actions to do it to change himself. Allah (swt) will not pick up a person and change him although it has happened in the past but it was very rarely probably 1 in a billion. As Allah (swt) says in the glorious Quran to the nearest meaning that “if you take one step towards me then i would take to steps towards you...". From this we can see that Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us. As Allah (swt) says that he wants us to take those initial steps towards him and then the remaining journey will be easy inshallah because then ALLAH (SWT) special mercy and forgiveness will come and help that person. These (talks after talks which people seem to go to every time and not change even one bit) are only fulfilling the desires of the nafs, and then once it has been fulfilled then they simply forget.

 :) hope you are not put off after reading all this. if you want more information on tazkiyah nafs and how to purify oneself from it then please go to the following web site www.zawiyah.org or call on 0161 351 1957 - 07790 550 360. To begin the course of self purification. insha Allah this then will be the initial steps to which Allah (swt) says to us, because then the person will be taking action into to changing his/her condition and not only saying i wish i could change and not doing nothing about it.

Jazzak Allah for reading it and May Allah (swt) reward us for our efforts which we put in to promote and to spread the deen - Amin! or e-mail info@zawiyah.org

 

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Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2005 at 9:06pm
Originally posted by fanaofallah

yes sister i follow a tarqeeah named tareeqah muhammadiyah, this tariq is unique in teh sence that teh wayfarer himself/herself knows that they are getting close to allah each day please read the following article to know the importance of tazkiyah and to understand a little about the tareeqah

:sl:

  the importance of tazkiyah tul-nafs can not be stressed enough times, people keep going on about the importance of knowledge, but what seems to have happened know is that people have left tazkiyah tun nafs, which is basically purifying the heart from the spiritual diseases, for example: Jealousy, arrogance etc... They are right in some aspect but tazkiyah is also needed.

We can some what see the importance of this in the situation of Satan (iblis). when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) as we know the story, who can claim that he/she will or has more knowledge than satan except the prophets, he not only had knowledge but he had it with certainty, meaning that he saw with his own eyes the paradise, hell, the angels, the prophets and moreover he saw Allah (swt)

not only that but he even spoke to Allah (swt), but having all this knowledge did not help him one bit, for instance when he was put to the test before Adam (a.s) and told to bow he did not, therefore he became expelled and cursed forever. There his evil spiritual heart disease came out and it manifested. this then as we know caused him to fall, know one may ask that if he had all this knowledge then how come he still fell, the answer is that he did not do tazkiyah on himself and therefore even though having all this knowledge he still fell, for the very reason that he could not implement his knowledge properly, he just was implementing it outwardly and not inwardly and therefore when he was put to the test he failed drastically.

Allah (swt) himself stresses the importance of Tazkiyah tun nafs in sura shams: to the nearest meaning that

"Successful is the one who has purified himself"

The heirs of the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) are the Awliyah (the people who have purified themselves) who have purified themselves inwardly and outwardly, by following the Sunnah of the Prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) inwardly e.g. by not hating another Muslim brother which the prophet (sallahualihiwasalam) was like inwardly, And by following the Sunnah outwardly. like our past generations for example: Syedina Abdul Azeez Dabbagh (r.a) who lived and died in Fez, morocco (Maghrib), imam Ghazali, shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani etc... not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc...

The people who have purified themselves (the Awliyah) are the ones of whom Allah (swt) praises them in front of angels and tells them look such and such a person is my obedient slave.

People keep on going to conferences after conferences but they do not change one bit they stay exactly the same as they had before they went to the talk. And once the talk has been finished then they straight away go home put the TV on and completely forget about the talk or seminar they had just been to, and the lessons they had learnt,

Because talks after talks will not change a person unless he takes manifest actions to do it to change himself. Allah (swt) will not pick up a person and change him although it has happened in the past but it was very rarely probably 1 in a billion. As Allah (swt) says in the glorious Quran to the nearest meaning that “if you take one step towards me then i would take to steps towards you...". From this we can see that Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us. As Allah (swt) says that he wants us to take those initial steps towards him and then the remaining journey will be easy inshallah because then ALLAH (SWT) special mercy and forgiveness will come and help that person. These (talks after talks which people seem to go to every time and not change even one bit) are only fulfilling the desires of the nafs, and then once it has been fulfilled then they simply forget.

 :) hope you are not put off after reading all this. if you want more information on tazkiyah nafs and how to purify oneself from it then please go to the following web site www.zawiyah.org or call on 0161 351 1957 - 07790 550 360. To begin the course of self purification. insha Allah this then will be the initial steps to which Allah (swt) says to us, because then the person will be taking action into to changing his/her condition and not only saying i wish i could change and not doing nothing about it.

Jazzak Allah for reading it and May Allah (swt) reward us for our efforts which we put in to promote and to spread the deen - Amin! or e-mail info@zawiyah.org

 

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum, 

 Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional...



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Quote Nausheen Replybullet Posted: 01 May 2005 at 9:47pm

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah,

Originally posted by Suleyman

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum, 

 Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional...

Fanaofallah, I regret the above comment. Please ignore it if you can. As for the information on the tariqah, brother, it is not what I enquired. Nor do I ask u about the definition of Tazkiya. My question was very straight, may be you do not know the answer, which is fine.

I hope you will enjoy your stay here, insha allah.

Maa salaama,

Nausheen



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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena
wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara.
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Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2005 at 1:03pm
Originally posted by Nausheen

Auzubillahi minash shaitan ir rajeem,

Bismillah ir rahman ir rahim,

Assalamualaikum wa rahmatullah,

Originally posted by Suleyman

 Es_Selam'un Aleykum, 

 Brother,please give us more rational answers;can we eat tazkiyah?,is it touchable?,is it full apportionable or does it have taste? or color?...brother,please don't be irrational...you are so emotional...

Fanaofallah, I regret the above comment. Please ignore it if you can. Nausheen

Es_Selam'un Aleykum ve Rahmetullahi ve Berakatuh Sister! Nausheen,

It was just an joke;an imitation,he understood but you did not as you do well at the last times...sometimes we use words from their reverse meanings for telling their real meanings! as there can be seen in so many examples passing in the holy Qur'an;who reads?...

 I was trying to not loosing a sister(closing my eyes to her faults to her friends!);but i think the time come to loosing a brother...you botched all of my good opinions on u;...thank u very much;no need to replying your message...Wa Salaam...



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Quote nadir Replybullet Posted: 02 May 2005 at 4:40pm

 

Assalaamu Alaikum

 

 

Fanaofallah

 

 

Alhamdulilah, I appreciate your post (& reply to Sister Nausheen’s Q).

 

 

I have followed your link, & will read (contemplate) further. I agree with the need for tazkiyah tun nafs’, & I (as a revert) am in the process of truly perceiving what is required (hence I am glad you have graced us with your company). I also feel that this aspect of practice is superior to – knowledge.

 

Fanaofallah, I like the statement  Allah (swt) is ready all the time to forgive and to take us close to him but the slackness is in us.” You are so right….. a time comes when a test emerges, if a person fails that (particular) test, and relapses in his/her religion, the persons pride is (more often than not) to blame.

 

I also think Allah (SWT) lets us slip up in small ways sometimes, so that we may learn, strengthen, & improve ourselves.

 

Fanoafallah stated: “not the normal scholars who just have knowledge but do not implement what they have learnt one bit, this is why most of our normal Ulema are not properly representing the teaching which they have learnt or the past generations who acted by what they knew the reason is because they have not purified themselves, this is why we often see scholars getting into disputes etc...”

 

I sometimes contemplate why we just all don’t shut up and leave it to the (classical) scholars, however (you must agree) it is not always easy to gain access (to scholars, & alike), to ask questions about perceiving what you have read/heard. Hence I appreciate been able to discuss such matters, even if it is not with someone at the level of a scholar. 

 

 

I look forward to you starting a topic of discussion in the forum (proper). Insha Allah

 

 

nadir   

 

 

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