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Posted: 09 March 2005 at 3:41pm
I found this message on a forum and would like input please.
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Wednesday, January 10, 2001 03:47 PM
I hope you will read till end.
My response to the "Child Molester" lie against our beloved Prophet, Muhammad peace be upon him:
Note: Please pay attention toward the end of this article to the Virgin Mary's (peace be upon her) age. According to Christian resources, Mary was 12-14 when she got pregnant. You will also see proofs from the Jews' Holiest Book, the Talmud, that girls were married off before at the age of 3.
Every time the Muslims talk about Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to the anti-Islamic, the anti-Islamic use Muhammad's marriage with a girl named Aisha as a point against Islam. They claim that since Muhammad was in his 50's and Aisha was only 9 years old, then its ok to call him a "Child Molester".
This is a terrible unfair attack on Islam because it doesn't apply to our beloved prophet in anyway !.
Was Aisha engaged to someone else before she got engaged to Muhammad?
Aisha was already engaged to a non Muslim man named Jober Ibn Al-Moteam Ibn Oday. Back then, the people of Mecca did not object to Aisha's engagement to Jober because she was physically big enough and tall enough to be considered for marriage. Her parents saw that and they engaged her to Jober.
The only reason why Aisha's father, Abu Baker Al Siddeek, broke her engagement with Jober is because he was a non Muslim. Later, a woman named Kholeah Bint Hakeem suggested for Muhammad to marry Aisha, because Muhammad and Abu Baker became best friends. Muhammad engaged Aisha for 2 years before he married her.
All Muslim scholars agree 100% that Muhammad and Aisha were engaged for 2 years before marriage. However, some say that she was 7 when she got engaged, and 9 when she got married. Others say that she was 9 when she got engaged and 11 when she got married.
I personally think that it makes more logical sense to say that she was 9 when she got engaged to Muhammad and 11 when she got married, because if she were 7 when she got engaged to Muhammad, then how old was she when she first got engaged to Jober? I don't think she was big enough and mature enough to get engaged with Jober before the age of 7. I don't think her parents would have allowed it.
The Middle Eastern and other Cultures:
If you take the time to study a little bit about the history of the tribes in South America, Middle East, Africa, India and the far eastern Oriental countries 1400 years ago, you would find that many tribes even until today allow the marriage of females at a very young age.
Do you think it is fair for you to come today and attack our beloved Prophet and call him a child molester when nobody 1400 years ago from his tribe had objected to his marriage? Not even the Pagans of Mecca, nor the Jews and Christians of Medina ever objected to it or used it as a point against Islam as anti-Islamic do today.
We all need to understand the culture that we are talking about. Life in the Middle East is a very simple one. It is a lot simpler than what our brain can imagine, because the simplest to us here in America may be a very difficult or complicated thing to them in the Middle East especially for those folks who live in tribes in the rural areas where they don't have TV, electricity, or any electrical equipment. They live on natural water and survive on what they have available from fruits, vegetables and animals as food.
Parents look at the girl's physical appearance when they prepare her for marriage. They don't care about her age. She could be 9 or 13, it doesn't matter.
What about Aisha's parents (mom and dad), are they too "Child Molesters"?
Since Aisha's parents both approved of her engagement with Jober and later approved to her marriage to Muhammad, is it fair for anyone to call her mom and dad and former fiancée and whole tribe all child molesters? I think whoever does that would be out of his mind and needs to study a little history about the Middle East.
More on Aisha's Marriage and its acceptance by the Arab culture back then
The following article was sent to me by brother Faris Osman Abdat; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Asalamu Alaikum brother Osama
Below are the points that perhaps could be of some use in the defense of the marriage of Lady Aisha to our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him). You would know if they are good enough to be utilize, insyallah :
"Firstly - if indeed the marriage of Lady Aisha was something which was despicable even at that time and in that culture, this fact would never have been recorded for posterity and all efforts to conceal or cloud it would have been undertaken.
But the fact that this hadith had reached us after it was recorded centuries ago and to all the Muslim generations in between proved that the marriage was culturally and morally acceptable and the fact is also that the Muslim community at that time remained unshakened in its faith in his Prophethood and the message which he had brought bear testimony to this assertion.
Secondly - we have to look at the life of Lady Aisha afterwards. She was without doubt one of the foremost scholars of Islam. It is even said that she had attained in her lifetime the position of Mufti - someone capable of giving religious rulings - a position very few Muslims will ever occupy.
She was seeked by many, both men and women, who hungered for knowledge and they came to her from all directions, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria. History does not know of any woman who was approached by so many for such a noble purpose.
If indeed she had became a victim of sexual abuse she would in most probability be devastated emotionally, psychologically, mentally and perhaps even physically but the achievements she had made in her life after the death of the Prophet proved that she was a woman who was in complete control of her faculties, becoming one of the intellectual giants of Islam.
And the fact that she had spoken so dearly of the Prophet was indicative of the innocence of the marriage and of the impeccable character of her husband because given the trust enjoyed by her by the virtue of her relationship with him, she could have unleashed a vengeful attack against him by attributing to him words or deeds of horrendous nature if indeed she was a victim of his supposed lust, destroying both the Prophet and Islam.
No sexual abuse victim would ever spoke positively of her attacker, much less becoming a channel that promote love and understanding of him and the message which he had brought."
What about Mary, Jesus' Mother peace be upon both of them? How old was she when she got pregnant?
Not only was it a custom in the Arab society to Engage/Marry a young girl it was also common in the Jewish society. the case of Mary the mother of Jesus comes to mind, in non biblical sources she was between 11-14 years old when she conceived Jesus. Mary had already been "BETHROED" to Joseph before conceiving Jesus. Joseph was a much older man. therefore Mary was younger than 11-14 years of age when she was "BETHROED" to Joseph. we Muslims would never call Joseph a Child Molester, nor would we refer to the "Holy Ghost" of the Bible, that "Impregnated" Mary as a "Rapist" or "Adulterer".
This paragraph was sent to me by brother Mike, who embraced Islam recently; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: According to the Priest of Saint Mary's Catholic Church: "Mary was approximately 14 years old when she got pregnant with Jesus. Joseph, Mary's Husband is believed to be around 36. Mary was only 13 when she married Joseph. When she first was arranged with Joseph she was between 7 to 9 years old."
According to the "Oxford Dictionary Bible" commentary, Mary (peace be upon her) was was 12 years old when she became impregnated.
So if I want to be as silly and ridiculous as many of the Christians, I would respond to them by saying that Mary was psychologically and emotionally devastated for getting pregnant at a very young age. And speaking of "child molesting", since most Christians believe that Jesus is the Creater of this universe, then why did GOD allow himself to enter life through a 12-year old young girl's vagina? Please note that we Muslims love and respect Allah Almighty, Mary, Jesus and Allah's Message to the People of the Book (The Jews and Christians). In other words, we Muslims would never make fun of Christianity through such childish topic like this one as many ridiculous Christians do make fun of Islam through our Prophet's (peace be upon him) marriage.
The point is:
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him was not a child molester as the haters of Islam claim. He was a Noble Messenger of God. Muhammad peace be upon him lived in a society and culture that existed 1400 years ago, and we must not judge what he or others did based on our standards today. It is wrong and foolish to do so !.
INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO. 1: Only the Holy Qur’an is infallible. While many ahaadith rise to the level of “sound,” this does not ensure they are preserved in absolutely uncorrupted form.
INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 2: The various ahaadith concerning the marriage of our beloved Prophet, salallahu allaihi wassalam, to Aisha, radiallahu anha, contradict one another. This leads to the logically inescapable conclusion that at least some of these ahaadith have been corrupted.
INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 3: Countless experiments on human memory have proven conclusively that even when presented with simple information, the human mind will distort that information, even when the person is deliberately trying to convey the information accurately. See for example http://pages.slc.edu/~ebj/IM_97/Lecture7/L7.html
INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 4: The overwhelming body of ahaadith concerning the life of our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, testify to his humility, modesty, self-sacrifice, charity, compassion toward all but especially women and children. In short, the ahaadith describe the perfect example of humanity, and crush into dust the efforts of slanderers to cast even the slightest of doubts about his noble character. Furthermore, he did not seek to marry any other young women, but rather married widows and divorcees, despite the fact that he could have wed anyone he desired.
INCONTROVERTABLE FACT NO 5: Aisha, radiallahu anha, became the Prophet’s most valuable companion, serving him selflessly throughout their marriage to such a degree that she has become known as the mother of all the believers. This confirms that she was Divinely selected to accompany the Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam.
CONCLUSION: The transmission of these ahaadith have been subjected to distortion. All that we can assume from these ahaadith is that Aisha, radiallahu anha, was betrothed to our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, as a child (a common occurrence in that society) and that the marriage was consummated when she reached puberty (a normal occurrence in nearly all societies prior to the 20th Century).
Those who use these ahaadith to besmirch the name of our beloved Prophet, salallahu alaihi wassalam, have no concern for the truth. Therefore, we should have no concern for them.
Anything of value here is a result of Allah, subhanahu wa ta’ala, while any errors are exclusively my own.
18.21.Thus did We make their case known to the people, that they might know that the promise of Allah is true, and that there can be no doubt about the Hour of Judgment. Behold, they dispute among themselves as to their affair. (Some) said, "Construct a building over them": Their Lord knows best about them: those who prevailed over their affair said, "Let us surely build a place of worship over them."
22. (Some) say they were three, the dog being the fourth among them; (others) say they were five, the dog being the sixth,- doubtfully guessing at the unknown; (yet others) say they were seven, the dog being the eighth. Say thou: "My Lord knoweth best their number; It is but few that know their (real case)." Enter not, therefore, into controversies concerning them, except on a matter that is clear, nor consult any of them about (the affair of) the Sleepers.
I couldn't understand your specific point of concern over here when you use words like "violated", even though you seemed to have read the article posted above that has not only answered your part of the question but has gone beyond it to cover all other possible questions as well. Can you be specific as what your presumptions are on this issue? Otherwise, the article has tried to encompass all possible issues related to moral ethics, legality, religiously, socialogically, and above all, from the perspective of the "child" herself in the later years of her life. To convince yourself on this issue, one has to remove his/her spectacle of life and need to learn about other cultures around the world through their spectacles. Probably that is the hardest part of it, and not everyone can do it. Cheers!
As Salaam Alaikum,
What's the big deal, anyway, if Prohet had intercourse with Aisha (R.A) when she was 9 years old??
Muhammad (S.A.S) lived humbly, even though, he bacame a de facto ruler of Arabia and he turned such a large number of people to Islamic monotheism. That should be enough to convince any Muslims about his uprightness.
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem
"if Prohet had intercourse with Aisha (R.A) when she was 9 years old??"
The way that is fraised has negative conotations in western society. An important question has to be asked "Who defines morality in western culture". According to most prior cultures up to the advent colonialism and golbalisation people married at the age of 10 or 15, since people matured and took resposibility for themselves at a much younger age. In modern times childhood has been extended by some 10-15 years due to modern lifestyles, we have moraly digressed not progressed since noble human charecter traits are frowned upon with slogan's like "i'm no saint".
Laurie you need to have a wider perspective, understanding and respect of differing cultures the society we both live in preaches narrowmindedness and soap opra morality.
At the moment I will try to reply to Rami & ZamanH. Remember one thing, because it was done habitually many, many years ago does NOT mean it was right in the first place. Culture or no culture a CHILD of nine is neither physically or mentally advanced to commence adulthood let alone in the confines of a marriage. The fact that she emerged in later life as a shining example to the world in morality and Godliness is an execption rather than the rule. Perhaps she may have been divinely sent.
Contrary to your last sentence, Rami, I have shown no disrespect, just a healthy inquiring nature.
And, ZanmanH, how well I know you, though I have never even met you.
Unless at some time in our lives we question "blind faith" then we are just believing what we are told and not whether it is actually "True." This is in respect of all facets of our lives, not just Religion.
I think Yusef may have the final say when he states in his reply that "ahaadith & memory" may have been corrupted.
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