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bharatiya
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Joined: 26 April 2005 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 157 |
![]() Topic: Why didnt Muslims leave India?Posted: 26 April 2005 at 11:17pm |
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Hello all the Indian Muslims here!!! Why did you choose to live in India even after partition? Just to tell the whole world that Hindus are communals and Hinduism is a farce? If Hinduism is a farce, let it be. It does not matter to you. If you feel that you are being ill treated in India, then why dont you leave India? The percentage of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh after partition in 1947 was 17 and 25 respectively. Today their percentage is almost nil in Pakistan and 10.5 in Bangladesh. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights? The problem is in a muslim mindset. If you are in majority, you will make it a Islamic Republic. And if you seem to be a minority, you proclaim to the world that you are being ill treated and that jihad has to be declared on that country... |
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THE SOIL OF BHARAT IS MY HIGHEST HEAVEN, THE GOOD OF BHARAT IS MY GOOD.
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ZamanH
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![]() Posted: 29 April 2005 at 1:48pm |
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Why did you choose to live in India even after partition? Because its the land of our forefathers (not just yours).
If you feel that you are being ill treated in India, then why dont you leave India? same as above.
The percentage of Hindus in Pakistan and Bangladesh after partition in 1947 was 17 and 25 respectively. Today their percentage is almost nil in Pakistan and 10.5 in Bangladesh. What happened to the missing Hindus? Do Hindus have human rights? Although if you look at percentages it might look great, but less Hindus emigrated to India compared to Muslims who migrated to Pakistan. The percentages look great because Pak had a lesser population.
The problem is in a muslim mindset. If you are in majority, you will make it a Islamic Republic. And if you seem to be a minority, you proclaim to the world that you are being ill treated and that jihad has to be declared on that country... While criticising Muslims, don't forget how badly lower castes Hindus have traditionally been treated by Upper caste Hindus in India, because of which many of whom (the Lower Caste Hindus) converted to Islam. |
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An enemy of an enemy is a fickle friend.
There will be more women in hell than men. ..for persecution is worse than the slaughter of the enemy..(Quran 2:191) Heaven lies under mother's feet |
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Nausheen
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Senior Member Joined: 10 January 2001 Location: Japan Online Status: Offline Posts: 4146 |
![]() Posted: 29 April 2005 at 5:35pm |
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Originally posted by bharatiya
The problem is in a muslim mindset. If you are in majority, you will make it a Islamic Republic. And if you seem to be a minority, you proclaim to the world that you are being ill treated and that jihad has to be declared on that country... The problem is with your mentality. Muslims in India are as Indian as you, but you want to treat them as B class citizens. You want them to leave, instead of listening to their problems and taking concrete measures to solve those. Why is it that the drainage system, roads, electricity supply etc in a muslim dominated locality of any city the worst? Why is it that muslim students do not get a fair chance in university programs? Why is it that your bhai chaara, discriminates muslims in jobs? why? Hindus in a minority submit to the ways of the majority. Unfortunately this is how they manage to survive, but muslims submit only to Allah. You dont like it and you yearn for them to migrate to pakistan and Bangladesh. Dear Bhartiya, muslims will not leave just because u want them to leave. You have made them one of the most resiliant community on the face of earth, thank you. And for your kind information, the world is not blind. It sees what goes on in your backyard. The most balanced perception of a hindu muslim conflict, you will get from a muslim who is also Indian, but u always charge them and hold them to prove their loyalty towards their motherland .... very poor treatment of your muslim brothers and sisters. Peace. |
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Wanu nazzilu minal Qurani ma huwa
Shafaa un wa rahmatun lil mo'mineena wa la yaziduzzalimeena illa khasara. |
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Rehmat
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![]() Posted: 29 April 2005 at 8:52pm |
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bharatiya
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Joined: 26 April 2005 Location: India Online Status: Offline Posts: 157 |
![]() Posted: 30 April 2005 at 12:36am |
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Originally posted by ZamanH
Although if you look at percentages it might look great, but less Hindus emigrated to India compared to Muslims who migrated to Pakistan. The percentages look great because Pak had a lesser population. This answer is interesting. I hold no grudge towards an Indian Muslim. When religion comes first, then its hard to be patriotic.
While criticising Muslims, don't forget how badly lower castes Hindus have traditionally been treated by Upper caste Hindus in India, because of which many of whom (the Lower Caste Hindus) converted to Islam.
Thats right. I am a lower caste 'hindu'. But its the thing of the past. Now caste system exists only as a political propaganda.
Also, don't forget Mughals ruled India as their own country even though they were Muslims. Many of the Mughal kings had Hindu wives and mothers and appointed their Hindu relatives to high position. Mughals made India the richest country in the world under their rule. Muslim rulers like Tipu Sultan and Siraj ud daulah are admired by Hindus and Muslims alike.
Only Akbar had a 'hindu' wife. What about Tughlaq who killed so many 'hindus' and raged so many temples? What about massacre of Kashmiri Pandits? What about so many Muslims supporting the Pakistani ISI? What about funding the Kashmiri militants? Whats wrong with our friendship with Israel? When Pakistan is friends with China, why not India friends with Israel? India is the only nation where the Jews were not persecuted. Love, Kumar |
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bharatiya
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![]() Posted: 30 April 2005 at 1:28am |
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Originally posted by Nausheen
The problem is with your mentality. Muslims in India are as Indian as you, but you want to treat them as B class citizens. You want them to leave, instead of listening to their problems and taking concrete measures to solve those. Few 'hindus' want to treat you as B class citizens. Its not fair on your part to say that we 'hindus' want to make India a 'hindu' rashtra. Such an idea never existed. Such terms are used just to show the political parties in bad light. I think you know about Indian politics! These terms are just used for the survival... An Indian Muslim knows that he is as free as his neighbour. "Godhra" and "Ayodhya" are isolated incidents. Such incidents happen everywhere in the world. The President is a Muslim. The top three film stars in the Indian film industry are Muslims(and I am a great fan of all the three). The top lyricist is a Muslim. There had been great Muslim sport personalities, academicians. The company Wipro is headed by a Muslim. How can you say that we want to treat you like B blah blah? If we 'hindus' really want a 'hindu' rastra, why would we not elect the so called 'hindutva' parties?
Why is it that the drainage system, roads, electricity supply etc in a muslim dominated locality of any city the worst?
I suppose 'hindus', Muslims, Sikhs and Christians live together. There is nothing as a Muslim concentrated locality or anything like that. And everyone face the same situation.
Why is it that muslim students do not get a fair chance in university programs?
From where do you get such information. Recently the Intermediate results were out(today is the turn of SSC(10th class)). There were as many Muslim students as 'hindus' in the top ranks.
why is it that your bhai chaara, discriminates muslims in jobs?
The police head of our city is a Muslim. Most of the bank employees are Muslims. Whatever you are saying is baseless. The same thing was asked by my Muslim friend. He was telling, "You will get the job, but I will be discriminated as I am a Muslim." Astonishingly, he got the job and I am still jobless.
Hindus in a minority submit to the ways of the majority. Unfortunately this is how they manage to survive, but muslims submit only to Allah. You dont like it and you yearn for them to migrate to pakistan and Bangladesh. Dear Bhartiya, muslims will not leave just because u want them to leave. You have made them one of the most resiliant community on the face of earth, thank you.
I never wanted Muslims to leave India. Its their Motherland as much as it is mine. Well you said that 'hindus' tend to submit to majority, then how can Muslims become the most resiliant community? They want a land for themselves everywhere in the world. For example Sianking in China, Mindanao in Philippines etc. Why to go far away, here in India Malapuram is a Muslim administered.
And for your kind information, the world is not blind. It sees what goes on in your backyard. The most balanced perception of a hindu muslim conflict, you will get from a muslim who is also Indian, but u always charge them and hold them to prove their loyalty towards their motherland .... very poor treatment of your muslim brothers and sisters.
Just read this,
Why do you people consider anything pro-hindu as anti-Islamic? We never ask them to prove their loyalty. If they really have, they would respect his fellow 'hindu' or Sikh or Christian. They dont say that they are being persecuted even if they are not. They would not support the Pakistani ISI which killed so many Indians(both 'hindu' and Muslim). CAN YOU PLEASE TELL ME SOME MAJOR 'PERSECUTIONS' OF MUSLIMS IN INDIA? |
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bharatiya
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![]() Posted: 30 April 2005 at 1:39am |
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Peace for Rehmat! Amen! |
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bharatiya
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![]() Posted: 30 April 2005 at 1:47am |
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To Zaman Brother, You were saying that Mughals made India the richest country in the world. India was the only producer of diamonds for centuries. In the words of a Chinese traveller, "India is so rich that I haven't seen a single beggar in the whole length I travelled..." Muslims were lured by those riches. India was a naval power before the Mughals came. They were interested in travelling only to Mecca. |
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