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Quote air_one Replybullet Posted: 01 November 2006 at 7:34am
The event you're always referring to stepenc is the event we muslims call the single most important event regarding to the preservation of the Quran.

You call this event as proof that the Quran has been altered.

Muslims call this event as proof the Quran has been preserved.

You will not be able to change our views nor shall we be able to change your view regarding this event. Lets move on.
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Quote Hanan Replybullet Posted: 01 November 2006 at 11:00am

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Quote ejdavid Replybullet Posted: 02 November 2006 at 9:49am
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The Christian New Testament is not The Unaltered Word of God. It is a collection of historical documents chosen from many such documents by the Councel of Nicea in the century of about 300 CE. At that time Christianity was not standardized, and countless documents from the earlier era were circulating. These included the "Gospel of Judas", the "Gospel of Mary Magdalen" and many others.

The church elders examined the existing plethora of such documents, and quite simply voted on which ones to include in the "Christian Cannon". In reallity, IMHO, none of them originally claimed to be the Word of God, or even the Inspired Word of God.

Instead, all of them were created by informed persons who had known Jesus, or known of him, and/or by philosophers and others with opinions on the matter. For instance, Revalations is the least authoritative of all the included documents, and it is some mystery as to how the elders decided to include it. Include it they did, and today many Christians believe it is a very authentic document, though any serious investigation shows it to be an allagory for Rome and Nero.

IMHO, the most authentic documents are the letters of Paul because they were disseminated and copied during his lifetime and have come down over history in relatively good order. It is clear, however, that some copiests took liberities with their work, and many of these are easy to identify for several reasons.

Among those reasons is that some of the paragraphs attributed to Paul neither correspond to his general and easily understood philosopy; or simply don't even use the words he used: Paul had a recognizable vocabulary that has been cataloqued. Suspicious forgeries are not all that hard to isolate.

Anyway, this is just my understanding, and is in now way any sort of Christian authority of any given 'confession' or sect.

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Quote ejdavid Replybullet Posted: 02 November 2006 at 10:16am
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Many Muslims call Christianity "The Pauline" religion, and for good reason. Paul's missionary work established the "Jesus Movement" throughout the Mediteranean world, and the various "Churches" he founded and nurished led directly to the world religion we now know as Christianity.

Accordingly, Christianity is unique in the world since it was 'founded' by a man whose original mission was, by his own testiment, to destroy it root and branch before it could spread. In addition, Paul became intimately acquainted with relatives, apostles, and followers of Jesus. As a result, his conclusions regarding Jesus's life and death have a special and independent authority regarding those matters.

Christian philosophy can not in the least be understood without extensive study of Paul's work in the early church. Just about everything else is accretion upon the original teachings of Jesus himself.



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