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JESUS PROPHESIED ISLAM IN THE GOSPEL OF LUKE, AND BIRTH OF CHRISTIANITY, JEWISH DIASPORA, AND CUTTING JUDAISM AND ITS BRANCH CHRISTIANITY FROM LIST OF RIGHT RELIGIONS WHEN ISLAM COMES 600 YEARS AFTER JESUS:

(This "hidden prophecy" is connected to Luke.5:36-39, why new religion is necessary instead of change of old religions, and also to Matt.20:1-16, more about it in links below.)


1 "year" = approx. 600 years, from Abraham / Jacob 1800/1700 (and so later Jews) to Islam 632 AC = 2400 years / 4 "year" = 600 years



Luke.13:6. Then he told this parable: "A master (God) had a fig tree (symbol of Israel in Bible), planted in his vineyard (Earth), and he went to look for fruit (results) on it, but did not find any. 7. So he said to the man (Jesus) who took care of the vineyard (Judaism "only true religion"/least corrupted religion in the world in times of Jesus), 'For three (3*600 = 1800) years now I've been coming to look for fruit on this fig tree and haven't found any. Cut it down! Why should it use up the soil (why not to do better religion)?'

8. " 'Sir,' the man replied, 'leave it alone for one (1*600) more year(s), and I'll dig around it and fertilize it (make world ready for Islam, also in Middle-East, "around" Israel as in [Christian] Arabia/Egypt/Syria). 9. If it bears fruit next year (in 600 years), fine! If not, then cut it down (Judaism and so also its sect/branch Christianity, from way of Islam, after that “year”, 600 years, passed after Jesus to death of Mohammed, pbuh, almost excactly 600 years later in 632AC).' "

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About science and history compared to Qur´an and Islam:

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/
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Quote Kariim25 Replybullet Posted: 21 August 2006 at 6:17pm
MY CALCULATIONS IN Luke 13:6-9

Maybe Israel AS AN OFFICIAL STATE (eventhough part of Rome and so not state) was "cut down" 70 AC, but Jewish religion and its sect Christianity did not "expire" as a (right) religions before Islam came 600 years after Jesus (Jesus 32 AC - Mohammed 632 AC) from point of Islam. Israel itself as a state have no importance for God without its religion, do you Christians agree that from Bible?

Israel (that "tree") is not subject anymore after its cutting down (in 600 AC), but ground around it. "Ground around it" is symbol for spiritual, geological, historical and religious connection between semitistic Islamic and Jewish religions. But before it (before Islam, those last 600 years that were given extra-time) Jewish-tree has opportunity to grow fruits "next year". Obviously it did not do so as God created Islam. All that tree produced during that "year" (600 years) was form of Christianity that worshipped Jewish prophet as a god. From Jewish view those are not good fruits.

Could be said that after "Tree of Judaism was cut down" according to Jesus, he became only a prophet of Muslims, and so now he (with Bible) is kind of "mole/spy" of Islam in areas where Islam was not to be spread so much (as in India or China for example). All those areas are under "hidden" power of Islam through Jesus now (there is in hadiths prophecy of Mohammed, be be upon him, that he saw power of Islam stretching from west to east in the future).

Some say this interpretation of Luke.13:6-9 is just numerical games. So tell me more reasonable and as compatible explanation. Fig tree is symbol of Judaism generally in Bible. Also when Jesus cursed fig tree in Matt.21:19 by words "may no fruit ever come from you again", he probably stated that no more prophets are going to come from Jews. And why time schedule fits so well in both of these religions, did Jesus not know about coming of Islam or did he not care how these will look?

Here prophecy of Jesus from the Gospel of Matthew (connected to this parallel), where he in fact prophecies only coming of Islam in parallel, and describes other Abrahamic-religions (including his own, Christianity) with accurate time-schedule and descriptions for each religion fitted into form of parallel in calculation about “hours of a day”.

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6813& ;PN=1

 

CHRISTIANS (and all others), BE HONEST AND THINK THIS:

 

If it would have been case that prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) "put into Koran" these "People of the Book"-nations just to match it with these parallels, why he did not mention about this connection even with a single word? Islam fitting into these time schedules is even more obvious in prophecy in the Gospel of Matthews (in link above), but here in Luke is also obvious 600 years time that Jesus “asked for more time”, and he said, “if not, then cut it down”… Jesus went away around 33 AC, prophet Mohammed died (pbuh) exactly 600 years after that, 632 AC.

He tried to get Jews and Christians to accept Islam with so much effort, wouldn´t this kind of using of their own writings had been most efficient way to do that?

Of course he (peace be upon him) knew connection, he was a prophet. But there is principles more important, and in Islam it is simply about accepting that there is only one God and one God only. And about accepting all the prophets. Simple as that. Either you believe it (=Allah will make you believe it), or you don´t. Nothing else matters.

Everything else is just extra.

And of course it might have been also case that realizing these parallels were meant to happen in this time, when high literature, internet, media and television offers all possible information about Islam, so everybody will have to choose their religion, there is no excuses anymore (but for few "people without knowledge", like children’s, disabled persons, or people living in remote corners of Africa/Asia/Jungles where there is no information about Islam).

Allah most probably saved (at least most of) f.ex. Medieval Christians, who could not even read Bible, but were dictated by priests who also kept them without information about Islam and even gave false information about it (f.ex. about "worshipping Mohammed himself as a god").

KORAN: 2:62

(Translation of) YUSUFALI: "Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve. "


KORAN: 2:105


(Translation of) YUSUFALI: "It is never the wish of those without Faith among the People of the Book, nor of the Pagans, that anything good should come down to you from your Lord. But Allah will choose for His special Mercy whom He will - for Allah is Lord of grace abounding."

(NOTICE THAT “PEOPLE OF THE BOOK” CAN REFER TO ALL PEOPLE F.EX. IN CHRISTIAN CULTURES, BELIEVERS OR NOT, BECAUSE ALLAH DOES NOT DEMAND BELIEVING INTO LIES)

 

It is time, my friends. For some reason this part has come for me to carry on.

Other prophecies of Jesus in Bible:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6445& ; ; ;PN=2

 

Isaiah prophesied Christianity and Islam:

http://www.southafrica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6126


JESUS GAVE WARNING ABOUT " APOSTLE " PAUL ( AND MODERN CHRISTIANITY ) WITH DESCRIPTIONS GOING ALONG WITH HIS (PAUL´S) WORDS AND ACTIONS:

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=102 1117


Edited by Kariim25
About science and history compared to Qur´an and Islam:

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/
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Quote KariimFinland Replybullet Posted: 07 September 2006 at 2:58am

Here prophecy of Jesus from Gospel of Matthew, where he in fact only prophecies coming of Islam in parallel, and describes other Abrahamic-religions (including his own, Christianity) with accurate time-schedule and description for each religion fitted into form of  calculation about “hours of a day”.

 

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6695& ; ;PN=2

 

Other prophecies of Jesus in Bible:

http://www.islamicity.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=6445& ; ;PN=2

 

 

 

Isaiah prophesied Christianity and Islam:

http://www.southafrica.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6126


JESUS GAVE WARNING ABOUT " APOSTLE " PAUL ( AND MODERN CHRISTIANITY ) WITH DESCRIPTIONS GOING ALONG WITH HIS (PAUL´S) WORDS AND ACTIONS:

http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=102 1117



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http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/bible
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