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Quote Rehmat Replybullet Topic: The ’American Islam’
    Posted: 20 April 2005 at 4:57am

The phrase ‘American Islam’ was originally coined by shaheed Sayyid Qutb (the Ikhwan ideologue who was executed by the Egyptian regime in 1966), and was later also used by shaheed Ali Shariati (who did so much to prepare the groundwork for the Islamic Revolution in Iran before his assassination by the Shah’s secret service in London in 1977) and Imam Khomeini (ra).  For them, it signified a minimalist, quietist, personal Islam that could happily co-exist with American political hegemony and the norms and values of a materialist, secular, consumerist society.  It has become a term used with contempt by Muslims around the world, as indeed most things ‘American’ are.

 

It is, therefore, ironically appropriate that this phrase should now have been adopted by neo-conservative ideologues who hope to create a West-friendly version of Islam, such as Daniel Pipes, as well as the Muslim renegades in organizations like the Progressive Muslim Union of North America (PMUNA), who are willing to work with them.  These include Muslims who regard themselves as ‘cultural Muslims’ or even ‘atheist Muslims’, who are willing both to attack every fundamental basis of Islamic belief, including even the Qur’an itself, and to offer total support and legitimacy to any and every Western policy.  Their most recent gimmick is mixed-sex jumah prayers in New York, led by a woman.  The event was given widespread publicity in the western and  international media as a laudable attempt by American Muslims to update sexist Islamic teachings and practices.

 

In truth, however, such Muslims are a tiny, marginalised and irrelevant minority even within the American Muslim community, recognised by the vast majority of Muslims everywhere for what they really are.  The truly ‘progressive’ face of Islam is that shown by modern, educated Muslim youths in countries like Egypt and Turkey, who are turning in droves to Islam’s ethical values, and who are and steadfast in their opposition to Western hegemony and everything the US and the West stand for.  This is the wave of Islam’s future; those trying to mislead us in another, western direction are utterly irrelevant, bound to fail and -- despite all the noise they make -- merit no further consideration. (Muslimedia)
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Quote taliwar Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 11:40am

As'salamu Alikum wr wb

So now it's allowed to attack Americans and American values just because it's popular to bash Americans. I thought that there were rules on these boards? apparently they only apply to those who are none Muslims or to people who disagree with Muslims.

Do NOT ATTACK anyone or thier culture. yours is the voice of hate. And that's all you're doing is spewing hate and these guys are allowing you to express your anger and hate in these forms against Americans and American culture. Why don't you worry about yourself and your family and leave America and Americans alone!

American Basher thread.

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Quote Rehmat Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 1:03pm

Gee why such sad face?

Why don't post some denial to the post - so that I can fax it to its writer - Mr. Siddiqui in London (UK).

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Quote semar Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 4:09pm

Rehmat,

Why you didn't put the source in detail (url if any) in the first place. So people can refer back to the source. So probabaly the readers can get more info and understand the point better.  This comment also apply to your other posts.



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Quote Rehmat Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 6:16pm
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Rehmat,

Why you didn't put the source in detail (url if any) in the first place. So people can refer back to the source. So probabaly the readers can get more info and understand the point better.  This comment also apply to your other posts.

Because Mr. professor you did not understand the last sentence of my post ...merit no further consideration. (Muslimedia). What you think (Muslimedia) stands for?

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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 6:27pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

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Reymond,

i have said this elsewere regarding other members and i will repeat it again here.

As long as Rehmat follows the forum guidlines he is free to say anything he likes.

Forum members can say what they like with in reason he does not have to conform to others beliefs, this is also an islamic standard. There is no compulsion in religion (2:256).

I dont know to what degree you have studied American forign relations but there is much to be critisised about This country in that respect. the above expressed view is moderate nor is it hate.

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Quote Rehmat Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 6:46pm

Originally posted by rami

...As long as Rehmat follows the forum guidlines he is free to say anything he likes
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Correction brother - Rehmat cannot say any thing which is against Holy Qur'an and the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah - And that was my moto as a former Moderator of a 'former Muslim website'.

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Quote semar Replybullet Posted: 20 April 2005 at 7:13pm
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Correction brother - Rehmat cannot say any thing which is against Holy Qur'an and the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah - And that was my moto as a former Moderator of a 'former Muslim website'.

Wa Salaam.

Talk about a hoax against holly quran/sunnah; rude, impolite, blaming others also against quran/sunnah.

Which website? We may want to see what kind of moderating you did. Did you shut up all comment that not inline with your own opinion?

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