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B.H.

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Posted: 11 August 2006 at 10:46pm

What if both men and women are allowed to work and can hold any job they can get hired into, providing they are honest, moral ect? This will allow the women to live up to their full potential and------

For the married men who must support a family, or sister, or female relative, why not let the government provide a job for him if one cannot be found in the private sector?

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:46am

The man who wants to work but cannot find a job, he starts his own business (he can borrow money if does not have any) and employs other people.

But then if men and women are allowed to work in this system, how come this man has this family to support. If they live in dire times, and he is not able to provide for all, the women start to work too. The above scenario is paradoxical.

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:57am

When the Prophet PBUH was asked about the plight of family of a man that could not survive after his death, He PBUH replied "they come to us" meaning the islamic community/state. This is Tirmidhi and Bukhari

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 10:34am

Salem,

What if a divorced woman has to work because there are many bills from her 1st marriage that the Ex Husband will not pay and she needs a means to support herself, Is this haaram? Perhaps she gets married again, Is is okay for her to work until there are children?

Surah 3 Ayat 186

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 1:09pm

Dear Suzanne

We are imagining an ideal situation here in this topic with the assumption that each and every man is extremely diligent about the responsiblity he has towards his family.

We all know that in these times, some men are far from responsible. Secondly, even if the men are responsible, life conditions are so hard that women are working to get some kind of financial cushion.

Islam has never prohibited women to work. The only situation that I can imagine it being Haram is when her husband has forbidden her to work. If her husband is okay with her working, no problems at all.

In the scenario you present, if the lady does not work, how else will she support herself?

InshaAllah she will get married and if her husband is okay with it, she can work regardless of whether she has children or no. However it is her right that she can ask her husband to be the sole provider.

Better these issues are cleared up before the marriage takes place.

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B.H.

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 1:16pm

Originally posted by najamsahar

The man who wants to work but cannot find a job, he starts his own business (he can borrow money if does not have any) and employs other people.

-Najamsahar

The woman though workling is not required to spend on her family like the husband is.

I do agree that the man becoming self employed is a good idea.

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Posted: 15 August 2006 at 9:37pm

Originally posted by najamsahar

This is good.

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B.H. Senior Member Joined: 11 June 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 116	Posted: 11 August 2006 at 10:46pm
	What if both men and women are allowed to work and can hold any job they can get hired into, providing they are honest, moral ect? This will allow the women to live up to their full potential and------ For the married men who must support a family, or sister, or female relative, why not let the government provide a job for him if one cannot be found in the private sector? Edited by B.H.
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najamsahar Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Online Status: Offline Posts: 151	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:46am
	The man who wants to work but cannot find a job, he starts his own business (he can borrow money if does not have any) and employs other people. But then if men and women are allowed to work in this system, how come this man has this family to support. If they live in dire times, and he is not able to provide for all, the women start to work too. The above scenario is paradoxical. -Najamsahar
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najamsahar Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Online Status: Offline Posts: 151	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 6:57am
	When the Prophet PBUH was asked about the plight of family of a man that could not survive after his death, He PBUH replied "they come to us" meaning the islamic community/state. This is Tirmidhi and Bukhari
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Srya Senior Member Joined: 27 February 2006 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 140	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 10:34am
	Salem, What if a divorced woman has to work because there are many bills from her 1st marriage that the Ex Husband will not pay and she needs a means to support herself, Is this haaram? Perhaps she gets married again, Is is okay for her to work until there are children?
	Surah 3 Ayat 186
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najamsahar Senior Member Joined: 21 June 2006 Location: Saudi Arabia Online Status: Offline Posts: 151	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 1:09pm
	Dear Suzanne We are imagining an ideal situation here in this topic with the assumption that each and every man is extremely diligent about the responsiblity he has towards his family. We all know that in these times, some men are far from responsible. Secondly, even if the men are responsible, life conditions are so hard that women are working to get some kind of financial cushion. Islam has never prohibited women to work. The only situation that I can imagine it being Haram is when her husband has forbidden her to work. If her husband is okay with her working, no problems at all. In the scenario you present, if the lady does not work, how else will she support herself? InshaAllah she will get married and if her husband is okay with it, she can work regardless of whether she has children or no. However it is her right that she can ask her husband to be the sole provider. Better these issues are cleared up before the marriage takes place. -Najamsahar
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B.H. Senior Member Joined: 11 June 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 116	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 1:16pm
	*Originally posted by najamsahar* The man who wants to work but cannot find a job, he starts his own business (he can borrow money if does not have any) and employs other people. But then if men and women are allowed to work in this system, how come this man has this family to support. If they live in dire times, and he is not able to provide for all, the women start to work too. The above scenario is paradoxical. -Najamsahar The woman though workling is not required to spend on her family like the husband is. I do agree that the man becoming self employed is a good idea. Edited by B.H.
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B.H. Senior Member Joined: 11 June 2006 Online Status: Offline Posts: 116	Posted: 15 August 2006 at 9:37pm
	*Originally posted by najamsahar* When the Prophet PBUH was asked about the plight of family of a man that could not survive after his death, He PBUH replied "they come to us" meaning the islamic community/state. This is Tirmidhi and Bukhari This is good.
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