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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Topic: Israeli opposition to Lebanon war
    Posted: 22 July 2006 at 5:59pm
Last week we were 50 people being spat on and beaten by Tel Aviv Police
Four days ago we were 600 under police protection and today we walked
from Rabin Square to the Cinematheque 5000 strong. Nasrallahs
Missiles are landing in Haifa killing Jews and Muslims and Christians with
out any agenda of their own they are by definition and the origin of the
word ballistic. As Muslims I need not tell you the horrors that are going
on in Lebanon. Those of you in America Canada England and the west in
general.
As much as spme may personally want to see Nasrallah's head on a pole.
I know that my beloved country with the help of George Bush are doing
more to promote Terrorism than The Hamas AlQuida Jihad Islami and the
Hezbollah combined.

What you may not know is: Prior to the kidnappings of those three poor
kids by Hezbollah and Hamas, We enjoyed 16 months of peace from both
the Hamas and Hezbollah. In that time we ran raids extra judicial
liquidations kidnappings and murder not so surgical assasinations.
Scores of Palestinian children and militants are killed daily.

Demonstrate against this war. Bush's people wants a confrontation
between Syria and Israel and they think they can win control of this
region through military force. The more these people suffer in Lebanon
the more Nasrallah grows in Popularity.

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Quote kRaZyXmAn Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2006 at 12:59am
Please view my video in the Current Events section and learn all the truth.  Any attacks by any middle easterns against israel is in direct response to their initial aggression, therefore it is israel that is responsible for creating the environment that breeds aggressive retaliation by people who before Israel was ever formed, lived in true peace and harmony with their Jewish and Christian neighbors
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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 23 July 2006 at 7:48pm

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

Last week we were 50 people being spat on and beaten by Tel Aviv Police
Four days ago we were 600 under police protection and today we walked
from Rabin Square to the Cinematheque 5000 strong. Nasrallahs
Missiles are landing in Haifa killing Jews and Muslims and Christians with
out any agenda of their own they are by definition and the origin of the
word ballistic. As Muslims I need not tell you the horrors that are going
on in Lebanon. Those of you in America Canada England and the west in
general.
As much as may personally want to see Nasrallah's head on a pole.
I know that my beloved country with the help of George Bush are doing
more to promote Terrorism than The Hamas AlQuida Jihad Islami and the
Hezbollah combined.

What you may not know is: Prior to the kidnappings of those three poor
kids by Hezbollah and Hamas, We enjoyed 16 months of peace from both
the Hamas and Hezbollah. In that time we ran raids extra judicial
liquidations kidnappings and murder not so surgical assasinations.
Scores of Palestinian children and militants are killed daily.

Demonstrate against this war. Bush's people wants a confrontation
between Syria and Israel and they think they can win control of this
region through military force. The more these people suffer in Lebanon
the more Nasrallah grows in Popularity.

Bismillah,

Thanks for pointing this out, Daniel.  The Washington Post did an article on the thousands of prisoners held by Israel, many with no charges and no family visitations allowed.  And these are from ongoing as well as past captures of many innocent civilians as well as Hamas and Hezbollah soldiers.

Salaamu Alaykum



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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:33am
This is a sampling of some of the e mails I am exchanging around the
country

Danny

we have had up to 10 people, a dog and an aquarium of fish at one time!
we have a bit more room now since the last fish passed away recently. So
you can feel free to bring your pets as well.

take good care of yourselves!!


See you Saturday

From Daniel Dworsky
I don't understand why we can exchange any number of terrorists for
kidnapped drug dealers diplomats and mossad agents but have a big
problem doing it for three kids who should be at home right now.?
Instead we take the obvious bait that will cost us life after innocent life.?
The longer this goes on the worse it's going to get for all except those
few who stand to gain from all our suffering.

Please join us and if you must be a communist then be a quiet comrade
and try not to piss off the bloody police this time.


Danny
?
I also think there is something very hokey about Omerts' sudden rigidity
in negotiating.? what would he do if it was his child. but it wouldn't be
because his? children will all be at the anti war demonstration. along with
his wife...aliza.?
? There will probably be too many people at the demo for us to bump into
one another, but I hope to see you there anyways.
?
I have attached my view of the situation. I hope you have a chance to read
it.
?

stay safe!
<It was a comedy of errors.doc>

There were a series of calamentous events which led to this erroneous
situation. Those of us who knew the players never anticipated that we
could loose control so easily and so far away.

It started long ago with the changing of the Chief of Staff from Boogie
Ayalon to the very controversial (and arrogant) Dan Halutz. Ariel Sharon
was the PM and we knew that he could certainly handle this tough
Brigadeer General. Sidebar: Dan Halutz is most famous for telling radio
interviewer that he sleeps very well at night despite knowing that he
authorized a mission that killed 15 civilians in the bombing of an apt
house in Gaza. He is a firm believer in executing terrorists in the privacy
of their home or car, with missles dropped from an F16.

There were protests and High Court requests to rescind the Halutz
appointment but to no avail. It was a lone soldier, Yoav Hass who led the
fearless fight, against Halutz.
Shaul Mufaz was the Min of Defense and the “liberal” right was running
the country. I say liberal right because, the Likud was in power but Sharon
was acting very liberal with the disengagement of Gaza and promise of
other areas as well.

THEN, the most bizarre turn of events occurred; the ruling right suddenly
became split down the middle and the leader of the leading party
declared that he would leave his party and start a NEW party, which was
very successful under his leadership. He included more rival liberal party
members to join in key positions and formed a new centralist party. Not
too hot and not too cold, very parve. The left was happy they could be
part of the new middle east and the extreme right was devastated that
they were left behind. One small step for man, one giant step for
mankind.

BUT then the next most bizarre turn; the leader of the party goes in for an
innocent medical procedure and falls into a coma!!!
The next in command, Olmert does not have a glorious military past, but
is indeed on the right side of the street politically, or so we think.

BUT THEN we win another victory, and the champion of Social Values and
Equality is the leader of the 2nd largest party. Although he would prefer
to be Minister of Finance, he is given and even better position; Minister of
Defense. WOW!! (but he too has very little experience with the defense
establishment, and does not have a glorious army service).

So the stage is set for pull outs from the west bank and social reform to
minimize the par between the richest segment of society and the rest of
us.

Now here is when things get really spooky! Suddenly we turn around and
instead of negotiating a release for a poor kidnapped soldier, someone
screamed GIRRONIMO!! And started a giant war.

Suddenly the guy in the oval office is rubbing his hands and saying, oh
yes let’s make sure they don’t trade nary a single under-aged female
terrorist for that nice soldier. Let’s try out some of our new technology!


Where is our guy in the defense dept.!!!??? did he suddenly give up all of
his convictions. Do they even invite him to the strategic planning
meetings? Are they conducting them in English so he won’t interfere?

So really, who do we think is running the show up north? Is it Amir Peretz
who has not given one press conference regarding the actual situation
since he took office or maybe its Dan Halutz who has not been able to
wipe that smirk off his face?

Friends our country has been captured by a band of over zealous generals
with a great desire for more trophies. The problem we face now is that all
important dilemma:
CAN YOU SUPPORT ISRAEL AND STILL BE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENTS
ACTIONS????
YES YES YES!!!!!
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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:39am
Ad published in Haaretz, July 28, 2006.

While the eyes of the public
Are riveted to the
Daily bloodletting in Lebanon -
The wholesale killing
In the Gaza Strip
Is going on.

Women and children
Are also killed
Every day.

This bill, too,
Will be presented to us
In the future.




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Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2006 at 4:56am

Daniel,

Thanks so much for posting - your insights into what is going on in Palestine/Israel are always good food for thought. 

I do wonder though, if humankind will ever get anywhere as long as we all keep calling each other "terrorist".  We are all so intent on pointing the finger and screaming terrorist at one another.

Alhamdulillah for people who actually talk to each other - this is what leads to understanding.

Peace, ummziba.

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Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2006 at 5:36am
That last one is our daily Gush Shalom Ad
Uri Avnery runs that motley crew.
He used to be a "terrorist" and before that he was an inmate of Aushwitz.
He gets me into more trouble than any other person I've even known.




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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 27 July 2006 at 8:41pm

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

This is a sampling of some of the e mails I am exchanging around the
country

Danny

we have had up to 10 people, a dog and an aquarium of fish at one time!
we have a bit more room now since the last fish passed away recently. So
you can feel free to bring your pets as well.

take good care of yourselves!!


See you Saturday

From Daniel Dworsky
I don't understand why we can exchange any number of terrorists for
kidnapped drug dealers diplomats and mossad agents but have a big
problem doing it for three kids who should be at home right now.?
Instead we take the obvious bait that will cost us life after innocent life.?
The longer this goes on the worse it's going to get for all except those
few who stand to gain from all our suffering.

Please join us and if you must be a communist then be a quiet comrade
and try not to piss off the bloody police this time.


Danny
?
I also think there is something very hokey about Omerts' sudden rigidity
in negotiating.? what would he do if it was his child. but it wouldn't be
because his? children will all be at the anti war demonstration. along with
his wife...aliza.?
? There will probably be too many people at the demo for us to bump into
one another, but I hope to see you there anyways.
?
I have attached my view of the situation. I hope you have a chance to read
it.
?

stay safe!
<It was a comedy of errors.doc>

There were a series of calamentous events which led to this erroneous
situation. Those of us who knew the players never anticipated that we
could loose control so easily and so far away.

It started long ago with the changing of the Chief of Staff from Boogie
Ayalon to the very controversial (and arrogant) Dan Halutz. Ariel Sharon
was the PM and we knew that he could certainly handle this tough
Brigadeer General. Sidebar: Dan Halutz is most famous for telling radio
interviewer that he sleeps very well at night despite knowing that he
authorized a mission that killed 15 civilians in the bombing of an apt
house in Gaza. He is a firm believer in executing terrorists in the privacy
of their home or car, with missles dropped from an F16.

There were protests and High Court requests to rescind the Halutz
appointment but to no avail. It was a lone soldier, Yoav Hass who led the
fearless fight, against Halutz.
Shaul Mufaz was the Min of Defense and the “liberal” right was running
the country. I say liberal right because, the Likud was in power but Sharon
was acting very liberal with the disengagement of Gaza and promise of
other areas as well.

THEN, the most bizarre turn of events occurred; the ruling right suddenly
became split down the middle and the leader of the leading party
declared that he would leave his party and start a NEW party, which was
very successful under his leadership. He included more rival liberal party
members to join in key positions and formed a new centralist party. Not
too hot and not too cold, very parve. The left was happy they could be
part of the new middle east and the extreme right was devastated that
they were left behind. One small step for man, one giant step for
mankind.

BUT then the next most bizarre turn; the leader of the party goes in for an
innocent medical procedure and falls into a coma!!!
The next in command, Olmert does not have a glorious military past, but
is indeed on the right side of the street politically, or so we think.

BUT THEN we win another victory, and the champion of Social Values and
Equality is the leader of the 2nd largest party. Although he would prefer
to be Minister of Finance, he is given and even better position; Minister of
Defense. WOW!! (but he too has very little experience with the defense
establishment, and does not have a glorious army service).

So the stage is set for pull outs from the west bank and social reform to
minimize the par between the richest segment of society and the rest of
us.

Now here is when things get really spooky! Suddenly we turn around and
instead of negotiating a release for a poor kidnapped soldier, someone
screamed GIRRONIMO!! And started a giant war.

Suddenly the guy in the oval office is rubbing his hands and saying, oh
yes let’s make sure they don’t trade nary a single under-aged female
terrorist for that nice soldier. Let’s try out some of our new technology!


Where is our guy in the defense dept.!!!??? did he suddenly give up all of
his convictions. Do they even invite him to the strategic planning
meetings? Are they conducting them in English so he won’t interfere?

So really, who do we think is running the show up north? Is it Amir Peretz
who has not given one press conference regarding the actual situation
since he took office or maybe its Dan Halutz who has not been able to
wipe that smirk off his face?

Friends our country has been captured by a band of over zealous generals
with a great desire for more trophies. The problem we face now is that all
important dilemma:
CAN YOU SUPPORT ISRAEL AND STILL BE AGAINST THE GOVERNMENTS
ACTIONS????
YES YES YES!!!!!

Bismillah,

Daniel,

I thought I should let you know that in America at this time the news stations are saying things like:  All Israelis agree that the DEFENSE should not stop until Hezbollah is routed from Southern Lebanon.  I've seen statements like these a few times. 

Could I send some of your quotes to papers here?

Salaamu Alaykum

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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