Active TopicsActive Topics  Display List of Forum MembersMemberlist  CalendarCalendar  Search The ForumSearch  HelpHelp
  RegisterRegister  LoginLogin  Old ForumOld Forum  Twitter  Facebook
Advertisement:
         

Middle East
 IslamiCity Forum - Islamic Discussion Forum : Regional : Middle East
Message Icon Topic: pics of Israeli girls writing .. Post Reply Post New Topic
<< Prev Page  of 6 Next >>
Author Message
Patty
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 14 September 2001
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2382
Quote Patty Replybullet Posted: 22 July 2006 at 11:27pm

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

It's worse than you know but you can do something about it.
Write letters to your representatives. Be kind to one another. Do not
allow your mind to be clouded with hatred. Making peace is dangerous
and hard. You make enemies of people who are ignorant and afraid. Be
very careful how you argue. Make sure that your facts are straight.
Remember that given the chance most of us are very generous and loving
people regardless of our various religions and the severity of our ancient
rules.

As governments and institutions we generally run a constant risk of
being pretty nasty. That's also natural That's how we all protect ourselves
from one and other.

Individually we are mostly wonderful. It's going to get really awful over
the next few weeks possibly months. Remember who you are and start
from there. The whole world needs you me, us at our best right now.

Peace Kindness Tolerance and Love That's how we are going to save the
world.

Dear Daniel,

You are absolutely correct.  Peace has to come from the common, average individual.  There is, quite simply, no other way.

Peace be with you always.......

Patty

I don't know what the future holds....but I know who holds the future.
IP IP Logged
Daniel Dworsky
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2005
Location: Israel
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 777
Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 6:11am
I got an education today. I went into Haifa to take care of Joey's American
Passport. I was north bound passing the hospital when the
sirens went off. We had no time. The ground was lurching with the waves
of the first impacts south bound motorists ran toward us caught in the
open. we just reached a car dealership when evrything started exploding
around us I made Joey lay down between a wall and a pillar and sheilded
him the best I could with my own body. A soldier maybe two years older
than my son appeared out of nowhere and shielded him the same way
from the other side. Yellow Smoke was coming from the hits and police
and ambulances were converging from all directions. We ran back to the
car I drove three blocks pulled over and we just held each other.

I'm still going to the demonstration in Haifa by the Dan Panorama tonight
against this war.
This is what civilians in Lebenon and Palestine are experiencing every day
and worse but when I felt my sons heart beating under me and looked in
to the eyes of that young soldier who was willing to use his own body as a
shield to help me save my son, I felt defiant and proud that I am a Jew
and that I was a soldier in the IDF because folks this is what its about.
That and I was also thanking Allah I hadn't wet my pants

I respect Islam You are beautiful and neccessary. I do wish we could all
just talk about our differences instead of hurting each other.



Edited by Daniel Dworsky
IP IP Logged
ummziba
Female  Islam
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 March 2005
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1158
Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 6:55am

Daniel,

I am so glad that you and your son survived that close call.  Don't be like so many others and let the emotion of the moment grow hatred inside of you - far too many are letting this happen.

And certainly if we could all just talk about our differences as people, one to one, it would be a different world....

Peace, ummziba.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
IP IP Logged
MOCKBA
 
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar

Joined: 27 September 2000
Location: Malaysia
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1410
Quote MOCKBA Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 7:12am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

This is what civilians in Lebenon and Palestine are experiencing every day
and worse but when I felt my sons heart beating under me and looked in
to the eyes of that young soldier who was willing to use his own body as a
shield to help me save my son, I felt defiant and proud that I am a Jew
and that I was a soldier in the IDF becaused folks this is what its about.

I also wish that we had soldiers like that... Muslim soldiers, regardless of their color race or country of origin... united in cause... May Allah send us some through our own effort.  

 

MOCKBA
IP IP Logged
herjihad
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 26 January 2005
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2473
Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 8:09am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

I got an education today. I went into Haifa to take care of Joey's American
Passport. I was north bound passing the hospital when the
sirens went off. We had no time. The ground was lurching with the waves
of the first impacts south bound motorists ran toward us caught in the
open. we just reached a car dealership when evrything started exploding
around us I made Joey lay down between a wall and a pillar and sheilded
him the best I could with my own body. A soldier maybe two years older
than my son appeared out of nowhere and shielded him the same way
from the other side. Yellow Smoke was coming from the hits and police
and ambulances were converging from all directions. We ran back to the
car I drove three blocks pulled over and we just held each other.

I'm still going to the demonstration in Haifa by the Dan Panorama tonight
against this war.
This is what civilians in Lebenon and Palestine are experiencing every day
and worse but when I felt my sons heart beating under me and looked in
to the eyes of that young soldier who was willing to use his own body as a
shield to help me save my son, I felt defiant and proud that I am a Jew
and that I was a soldier in the IDF because folks this is what its about.
That and I was also thanking Allah I hadn't wet my pants

I respect Islam You are beautiful and neccessary. I do wish we could all
just talk about our differences instead of hurting each other.

Nasrallah You dumb F--- You missed me!!!!!

Bismillah,

We are all very happy that you and Joey are safe.  We will pray for your continued good health along with that of the Lebanese and Gazzans.  This might seem confusing to some for us to pray for both sides to be safe, but I'm sure that Allah, The All-Knowing can work it out.  I pray that all of the weapons malfunction immediately.  Hey, it could happen.

How do you feel about your statement that I bolded above today?

Who do you think should protect the Lebanese people?  Israel should stop bombing.  America should stop sending new and improved weapons, but who should help the Lebanese after the bombing stops?  Maybe Israel for a start.  Just a thought.

Salaamu Alaykum

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
IP IP Logged
Daniel Dworsky
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2005
Location: Israel
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 777
Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 11:05am
I am glad that I have the right to speak as a former soldier. My words
have more weight. No one can call me a coward.

I know that a soldiers job is to put ones self in harms way for civilians all
civilians

I just got back from the demonstration.
The police let a bunch of hoodlums loose on us like dogs. I blocked a few
blows let a 200 kilo one armed man rip up my sign that said "Beirut and
Haifa want to live"   I took my wife and went home.

I am proud of that soldier that came to my sons aid earlier today. I'm
proud of the soldiers (my students) that pull reserve duty in Palestine and
keep the regular army out of mischief. As far as feeling defiant... Well...
Feeling defiant is a nice substitution for not wetting ones pants. I was on
the verge of total panic today and I had to shake it off. It lasted three
blocks. What else you wanna know?



Edited by Daniel Dworsky
IP IP Logged
ummziba
Female  Islam
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 16 March 2005
Location: Canada
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1158
Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 11:13am

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

What else you wanna know?

How ARE you?  There is nothing like a darn good scare to really shake up one's inner solitude.  Be sure that you and your son take plenty of opportunity to talk about what happened...don't let it fester inside (though I think you won't, you don't seem that kind ).

And, do you think the demonstration made any difference to anybody?

Peace, ummziba.

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but your words...they break my soul ~
IP IP Logged
Daniel Dworsky
 
Senior Member
Senior  Member
Avatar

Joined: 17 March 2005
Location: Israel
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 777
Quote Daniel Dworsky Replybullet Posted: 25 July 2006 at 11:17am
Originally posted by MOCKBA

Originally posted by Daniel Dworsky

This is what civilians in
Lebenon and Palestine are experiencing every day and worse but when I
felt my sons heart beating under me and looked in to the eyes of that
young soldier who was willing to use his own body as a shield to help me
save my son, I felt defiant and proud that I am a Jew and that I was a
soldier in the IDF becaused folks this is what its about.


I also wish that we had soldiers like that... Muslim soldiers, regardless
of their color race or country of origin... united in cause... May Allah send
us some through our own effort.  


 



I think we all have soldiers like that. Soldiers start off and end up
(hopefully) as people. :D

We just have to keep reminding ourselves of this stubbornly.
IP IP Logged
<< Prev Page  of 6 Next >>
Post Reply Post New Topic
Printable version Printable version

Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed herein contain positions and viewpoints that are not necessarily those of IslamiCity. This forum is offered to stimulate dialogue and discussion in our continuing mission of being an educational organization.
If there is any issue with any of the postings please email to icforum at islamicity.com or if you are a forum's member you can use the report button.

Note: The 99 names of Allah avatars are courtesy of www.arthafez.com

Advertisement:



Sponsored by:
Islamicity Membership Program:
IslamiCity Donation Program  http://www.islamicity.com/Donate
IslamiCity Arabic eLearning http://www.islamiCity.com/ArabAcademy
Complete Domain & Hosting Solutions www.icDomain.com
Home for Muslim Tunes www.icTunes.com
Islamic Video Collections www.islamiTV.com
IslamiCity Marriage Site www.icMarriage.com