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Israfil
 
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Quote Israfil Replybullet Topic: Theory (or Philosophy of) Politics
    Posted: 25 June 2006 at 7:28pm

A challenge to you political buffs!

I'd like for each of you to state your political theory and why society should be molded by it? Explain the pros and cons to your political thoughts. Also explain what kind of person should impliment how the country (or society) should be ruled

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Quote Megatron Replybullet Posted: 25 June 2006 at 9:55pm
Israfil,

Your challenge is just begging for 300 page posts.  The kind that I don't bother to read.
 
I personally like socialist democracies.   Sweden is a prime example of that.  However, the downfall of socialist democracies is that the private sector is greatly inhibited due to high taxation.  This encourages lucrative businesses to head to more fertile grounds such as the United States.  Another short-coming is that the private sector has an uncanny ability to be more efficient than the public sector.  Socialist democracies rely on the public sector for healthcare and unemployment insurance among other things so this can pose a problem.

But the problem with over-privitization as is the case with the U.S., is that you get a small minority of people controlling the vast majority of wealth, leaving the rest of society disenfranchised.  The reason why the U.S. system works, however, is that there is just so much money to go around that even the small amount distributed to the vast majority is a substantial amount which allows your average American to lead a comfortable lifestyle.  When you apply the U.S. democratic system to poorer countries, its an utter failure because of the lack of money.

In short, I find myself sitting on the fence with respect to these two democratic systems.  However, I always go for the lesser of two evils and support the socialist democratic system.  That way if you're poor and you have a heart attack the government will pay your bill instead of you lying on the street while your heart dies.



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Quote Muslima Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 5:54am

I am also a socialist so it would have to be a very leftist. I would probably leave it secular but with more references to Islam, like bank holidays.

If it was possible and everything is really, I would redistribute the land and the wealth, as the minority owning it now had acquired it illegally, thanks to a system based on slavery or economical exploitation.

There would be some changes, I tell you!!



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Quote Israfil Replybullet Posted: 26 June 2006 at 4:51pm
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Quote bargey Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2006 at 6:23am

if you can t take the heat get out of the kitchen,

The biggest and richest and most powerful is a why the west is right. All others only have two choices, behave or die.

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Quote Escobar Replybullet Posted: 10 July 2006 at 3:45pm

Why are u all talking about ur socialist??

The truths which are found in socialism are also found in Islam...

Both capitalism and socialism only view mans happiness in material means...man is more than material...man is also spiritual...and mans spiritual side is most important to his happiness...and both capitalism and socialism neglect this...

Islam is the best way...not man made ideologies that tell 1/2 truths...

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Quote Megatron Replybullet Posted: 16 July 2006 at 12:30pm

Bargey,

From your comments I can see that Australia was and always will be a penal colony at heart.  I guess its hard for you to express coherent ideas when you hale from a society formed by a bunch of British ex-cons.

Do the world a favour, leave the Aboriginese alone, go back to England and lock yourself up.  It's just better that way.

Escobar:

That was one of the smartest posts I've read.

 



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Quote Suleyman Replybullet Posted: 16 July 2006 at 12:59pm
Originally posted by Escobar

Why are u all talking about ur socialist??

The truths which are found in socialism are also found in Islam...

Both capitalism and socialism only view mans happiness in material means...man is more than material...man is also spiritual...and mans spiritual side is most important to his happiness...and both capitalism and socialism neglect this...

Islam is the best way...not man made ideologies that tell 1/2 truths...

I miss that brother

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