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Quote AnnieTwo Replybullet Posted: 11 June 2006 at 11:14am
Originally posted by bmzsp

Annie,

From you: "Didn't I already say that?  When I have a question about the meaning of some OT scriptures, I have a Jew that I go to to get some answers.  He will accept the OT scripture and give an answer.  If the OT scripture is not as clear as the Hebrew, he will tell me the difference.  He prefers the Stone edition of the Hebrew and it is not on the Internet as far as I know."

Annie, you have got one Jew and I have two Rabbis in the Singapore Synagogues plus a dozen Jewish scholars from the Mennaseh Trust here. I have The Jewish Scriptures in the Masoretic Text right next to my computer and I ask Rabbis on Moses and other Jewishdotcoms.

None of them agrees with your goodself and your Jew, Annie!

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Sorry, BMZ, but I don't just have one Jew. I have a bunch.  I didn't say the one I mentioned above was not a Rabbi.  I also have the Jewish Scriptures in the Masoretic Text right next to my computer.

If I were you I would be very cautious about what the Jews say in regard to prophecies of the Messiah.  Do you own work.  Don't rely on the Jews to tell you who the Messiah is.  It could be a fatal mistake.

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Quote Mishmish Replybullet Posted: 11 June 2006 at 11:23am

O.K. When the dialogue gets down to who has more Jews, something has gone horribly awry.....

Oddly enough, I was watching a program last night where this Jewish guy was talking about Christians and the OT, and he was saying that they almost always interpret it incorrectly and that if you want a correct interpretation to ask someone Jewish, go to the source.

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Quote BMZ Replybullet Posted: 11 June 2006 at 5:31pm

Hello Mishmish,

Salaam Alaikum,

This link is a good one to know the thoughts of Jews about this topic.

http://ohr.edu/ask/ask00j.htm

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Quote mariyah Replybullet Posted: 11 June 2006 at 7:42pm
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Originally posted by bmzsp

Annie,

You were totally unable to answer or comprehend.   

I knew you will keep on failing to see my point.    Let me add an honest twist here for you. You dig up prophecies looking to justify the coming of Jesus, the forms of Jesus and the nature of Jesus in the Christian OT, which is neither supported by the Jewish Scriptures (Jewish OT) nor the Jews themselves.

I am sure you will be thrusting instead of piercing!  



Oh, but I did comprehend.

Let me put you out of your misery.  Whether a Christian reads the Old Testament in the Greek translated from the Hebrew or the English translated form the Hebrew, they come to the same conclusions about Jesus and the prophecies.

The proof of that is the Messanic Jews.  They read the Old Testament either in English from the Hebrew scriptures or directly from the Hebrew as many of them read and understand Hebrew and they come to the same conclusions that the Christians do.

So your effort to imply that Irenaeus wrote the Septuagint falls flat on its face.  Irenaeus had nothing to do with the writing of the Septuagint as I pointed out to you.

Annie

I was a Christian, and I didnt. The nicene council and Constantine rewrote sections of the Bible to reflect the "divinity of Christ"  The old testaments documents were originally written in Aramaic, NOT GREEK! Many scrolls have been found predating the Nicene council that show the differences. Cruise the web and you will see! You  are biased, that is ok, try to be objective!



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Quote DavidC Replybullet Posted: 11 June 2006 at 10:59pm
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O.K. When the dialogue gets down to who has more Jews, something has gone horribly awry.....



           
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Quote BMZ Replybullet Posted: 12 June 2006 at 2:06am

David & Mishmish,

Annie has American Jews but I have the Jews direct from the Holy Lands. As a specialist structural engineer, I fixed up their 110 y.o. synagogue and saved it from an imminent collapse.

They were delighted and after an inspection on a hot day, the Rabbi offered me specially imported wine from King David's gardens. When I refused politely they told me it was Kosher (Halal) and safe to drink.   

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Quote Mishmish Replybullet Posted: 12 June 2006 at 2:14am
I don't know BMZ, do Holy Land Jews trump Jews from other countries? Maybe 2 American Jews equal 1 Holy Land Jew. Perhaps we need to do the head count again... What do you think David?
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Quote DavidC Replybullet Posted: 12 June 2006 at 3:46am
I don't think I can handle the mathematics, Mishmish.

I flunked both Al-Jew-bra and Analytic Jew-ometry.
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