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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 8:48am
Originally posted by salman_s

[Allah gave us talent to use it in the right place, to use it in understanding the Creator (Allah), His power and might and worshipping Him(alone).

So why wouldn't music be something to understanding the creator?

minus those types that Patty mentioned

Birds sing and make songs, which can be musical in itself, I guess birds aren't honouring the creator  

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Quote Patty Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 9:40am

Of course God gave us many talents.  My husband is a brilliant artist, but he would never paint anything pornographic.  The same goes with music or dance.  For instance, I love the ballet and the waltz.  But I would never go watch a strip show, where the girls/guys are very seductive in their "dancing".  He gave many the gift of writing, and we are so fortunate to have many fine authors (I love to read), but this too can be misused.  Personally I would not choose to "read" a Playboy or Playgirl or Hustler magazine.  Nothing said or shown their to honor God (is there.)?

The bottom line is HOW we use the talents God gave us.  I think we all know which talents are appropriate and ones which our Lord would approve of, and those which He would find insulting, vulgar, and contemptable.  I agree with Salman on this one.

 

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Quote Hayfa Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 10:14am
TYes talents, there is a group called Sweet Honey in the Rock. It is an African American female a cappella ensemble with deep roots in the African-American churches.  There is one woman Ysaye Maria Barnwell who can sing five octaves. I’ve never heard anyone before and since quite life her.  So yes this talent is from Allah...
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Quote smanzoor Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 2:19pm

I recall an old ABBA song

Thank you for the music, the songs i'm singing
Thanks for all the joy they're bringing
Who can live without it, i ask in all honesty
What would life be?
Without a song or a dance what are we?
So i say thank you for the music
For giving it to me

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Quote salman_s Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 11:35pm
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So why wouldn't music be something to understanding the creator?

music is not the thing that should be used to understand the Creator (Allah). to understand the Creator, Allah has revealed the glorious Qur'an to the final prophet of Allah, that is, Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The Qur'an is a book full of guidance to mankind from the Lord of the alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists).  and all of mankind has been ordered by Allah to believe in Allah, to worship Allah (alone), to believe in the Qur'an which has been revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and to follow the commandments of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

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Birds sing and make songs, which can be musical in itself, I guess birds aren't honouring the creator  

ofcourse , birds do celebrate the praises of their Creator (Allah). all that is in the heavens and on the earth and all that is between them celebrate the praises of their Creator. Allah is not in need of his creation, but the creation is in need of Allah.

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Quote salman_s Replybullet Posted: 30 May 2006 at 11:53pm
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Who says God God gave us talent for music?

By the fact that God is the artisan of the human body....By the fact that he created eveything, every element, every mineral on earth every class of metal. With that said our brains function in accordance to the environement so I think this allows us to develope talents. such as Jazz artist who can make music out of tin or other musicians who make music out of wood sticks etc..

you are being too scientific israfil.

Allah did not order mankind to use his talent for creating music.

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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2006 at 3:28am
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So why wouldn't music be something to understanding the creator?

music is not the thing that should be used to understand the Creator (Allah). to understand the Creator, Allah has revealed the glorious Qur'an to the final prophet of Allah, that is, Prophet Muhammad (may peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The Qur'an is a book full of guidance to mankind from the Lord of the alamin (mankind, jinn and all that exists).  and all of mankind has been ordered by Allah to believe in Allah, to worship Allah (alone), to believe in the Qur'an which has been revealed to Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and to follow the commandments of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Originally posted by Angel

Birds sing and make songs, which can be musical in itself, I guess birds aren't honouring the creator  

ofcourse , birds do celebrate the praises of their Creator (Allah). all that is in the heavens and on the earth and all that is between them celebrate the praises of their Creator. Allah is not in need of his creation, but the creation is in need of Allah.

You contradicted yourself Salman.

I'm more inclined with your second paragraph

The scriptures don't help me personally to understand the creator, give me science, give me creative stuff like music, the world around us, people and at this moment can't think of any more

Scriptures to me is only one part of so many things to understand the creator

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Quote BlueSun Replybullet Posted: 31 May 2006 at 4:12am

Salaam All,

All scholars have unanimous view on the prohibition of all forms of singing and music that incites debauchery, indecency, or sin. As for musical instruments, given the weakness of the evidence indicating that they are forbidden, the rule to be applied here is the one states that all things are originally deemed permissible as long as there is no Shari`ah text that prohibits them.

Singing is no more than melodious words; if these are good, singing is considered good; but if they are bad, such singing is deemed bad. Talk that contains forbidden content is prohibited. What if that talk is accompanied with rhythm and melody?

Scholars agree on the permissibility of singing without instrumental accompaniment and where the content is not prohibited. This sort of singing is allowed only in certain occasions such as: weddings, feasts, welcoming a traveler, and the like. This is based on the hadith of the Prophet (peace and blessing be upon him) that states: “He (peace and blessings be upon him) asked, ‘Have you given the girl (i.e., the bride) anything as a present?’ They (the attendants) replied, ‘Yes.’ He asked, 'Did you send a singer along with her?' 'No', said `A'ishah. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) then said, 'The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing: Here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.'" In this case, we can say that a woman can sing only in front of women and her non-marriageable male kin.

 

 

 

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