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Quote BMZ Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2006 at 9:41am

There is no mutual degrading going on here, so let's all have nice exchanges.

Personally, I don't care a hoot about nasty Reverends X, Y, Z or Ali Sina.

If one does degrade, one should be prepared to receive. That applies to all of us, regardless of race, language or religion.

Muslims, however, do have a serious handicap. They will never say anything real bad, nasty or dirty about Jesus, John the baptist and Mary.

However, Muslims hurt Christians real bad when they say Jesus is NOT God. I really feel that but I can't do a thing. I have to say Jesus is not God. But many of my Muslim friends and I still try to put it very nicely in mutual exchanges and discussions. I must appreciate that our good Christian friends bear that pain well.

Let's all be fair to each other.

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Quote AbRah2006 Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2006 at 10:46am

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AbRah,

You are a perfect example of a Muslim who degrades Christianity and Christians.  Anyone reading your posts could see that.  Using Osama Abdullah's sites is a good example.  I just read your post where you call Jesus a hypocrite.

My response: Jesus of Islam is not the same as the Jesus in the Bible.

In Islam Jesus is a great prophet of God for he is a righteous man who calls the Jews to worship Allah the One and Only. Jesus is neither God nor the son of God for Jesus is a servant of Allah.

In Christianity Christians worship Jesus as their God and at the same time they claim that Jesus is the son of God...What a silly statement!

How could Jesus be the father and the son of himself at the same time? How could Jesus say that God was in heaven when he himself was in the world with his followers? How could Jesus be God when Jesus himself said that God was greater than him? How could Jesus be God when he himself says that he was powerless and he depended on God's help and permission? How could Jesus be the son of God when the Bible itself declares that Jesus is the son of man throughout the NT? In the NT Jesus is a servant of God but the Christians insist that Jesus is God ...How can a servant be a master of his master?

How could Jesus say, "whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire" (Matthew 5:22).  Yet, he himself did so repeatedly, as Matthew 23:17-19 and Luke 11:40 & 12:20 show.  Clearly Jesus should be in danger of hell too?

How could Jesus say in John 14:13-14  "And whatsoever ye ask in my name I do, that the Father may be glorified in the son.  If ye ask any thing in my name, I will do it."  In reality, millions of people have made millions of requests in Jesus’ name and failed to receive satisfaction.  This promise or prophecy has failed completely.



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Quote amah Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2006 at 11:15am
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Muslims, however, do have a serious handicap. They will never say anything real bad, nasty or dirty about Jesus, John the baptist and Mary.
I wouldn't call it a handicap...

Yes, how can we say anything bad about them? Jesus is most dear to us, like any other prophet of Allah. 
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Quote Patty Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2006 at 6:25pm

I have just ONE question, and I hope I don't get back a big, rambling post.  My question is this:  Have any of you heard any CATHOLIC, from a lay person to the Pope, say anything insulting against Islam?  If you have, please post who said it, and on what website.  Thanks so much.

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Quote BMZ Replybullet Posted: 01 June 2006 at 7:13pm

Dear Patty,

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I have just ONE question, and I hope I don't get back a big, rambling post.  My question is this:  Have any of you heard any CATHOLIC, from a lay person to the Pope, say anything insulting against Islam?  If you have, please post who said it, and on what website.  Thanks so much.

Peace and Blessings,"

Never, Patty. I have never seen or heard any Catholic insulting Islam.  Catholics don't do that.

It comes mostly and only from some American and British Protestants.

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Quote AnnieTwo Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2006 at 4:34am
Originally posted by Patty

I have just ONE question, and I hope I don't get back a big, rambling post.  My question is this:  Have any of you heard any CATHOLIC, from a lay person to the Pope, say anything insulting against Islam?  If you have, please post who said it, and on what website.  Thanks so much.

Peace and Blessings,



Yes, I personally have.  I will not post it on this board.  I stepped in a trap set by Mishmish once when she asked me to post allegations against Islam and got burned, but never again.

You could go to a Catholic discussion board where they discuss Islam.

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Quote AbRah2006 Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2006 at 5:06am
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Originally posted by Patty

I have just ONE question, and I hope I don't get back a big, rambling post.  My question is this:  Have any of you heard any CATHOLIC, from a lay person to the Pope, say anything insulting against Islam?  If you have, please post who said it, and on what website.  Thanks so much.

Peace and Blessings,


Yes, I personally have.  I will not post it on this board.  I stepped in a trap set by Mishmish once when she asked me to post allegations against Islam and got burned, but never again.

You could go to a Catholic discussion board where they discuss Islam.

Annie

 

I have been following you AnnieTwo  since you first came here and I find that it is you who like to slander  Islam by making false allegations against Islam...You and Fred behave the same way. Can you please name your sources that you quote to degrade Islam? I want to know the anti-Islam websites that you quote to degrade Quran.



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Quote AnnieTwo Replybullet Posted: 02 June 2006 at 5:53am
Originally posted by AbRah2006

Originally posted by AnnieTwo

Originally posted by Patty

I have just ONE question, and I hope I don't get back a big, rambling post.  My question is this:  Have any of you heard any CATHOLIC, from a lay person to the Pope, say anything insulting against Islam?  If you have, please post who said it, and on what website.  Thanks so much.

Peace and Blessings,


Yes, I personally have.  I will not post it on this board.  I stepped in a trap set by Mishmish once when she asked me to post allegations against Islam and got burned, but never again.

You could go to a Catholic discussion board where they discuss Islam.

Annie

 

I have been following you AnnieTwo  since you first came here and I find that it is you who like to slander  Islam by making false allegations against Islam...You and Fred behave the same way. Can you please name your sources that you quote to degrade Islam? I want to know the anti-Islam websites that you quote to degrade Quran.



Where have I slandered Islam?
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