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Posted: 12 April 2005 at 4:31pm

Originally posted by DavidC

A not so well documented collection.

[url]http://www.geocities.com/syed_fawad/islam/read.html[/url}

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Posted: 13 April 2005 at 6:33am

Fixed. Bad brackets.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 at 7:05am

Gog & Magog are the descendents of those living in Europe. Their statues are all over Europe as folk heroes.

The Prophets (pbuh) prophecy of his followers after him being followers of Dajjal has been fulfilled. The whole world now follows Europeans and their baby nations.

In the Bible there is a Mystery Babylon. This baby of Lon-don is America from which the Anti-Christ will rise.

Anti means; opposite, carbon copy

If you look at the images of Jesus we were given, he looks white. This is a carbon copy of the description of a very black man with nappy lamb's wool for hair. This is the Anti-Christ that the whole Christian world believes in.

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Posted: 13 April 2005 at 12:43pm

Originally posted by blond

....If you look at the images of Jesus we were given, he looks white. This is a carbon copy of the description of a very black man with nappy lamb's wool for hair. This is the Anti-Christ that the whole Christian world believes in.....

Oops!

Essa (Christ) was born in Nazareth (Palestine), whose inhibitants are 'light brown' - even today. The present-day image of Christ being a 'White-man (Roman)' was invented in 325 CE by the Church as King (St.) Constantine, which indirectly proves Jewish myth (Talmud) that Christ was a 'Pandora' (sic).

However, if you visit France and Germany - there you could find some churches with 'Black Mary holding a Black Baby Jesus'!

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Posted: 13 April 2005 at 2:45pm

asalamu alikum blond,

Gog & Magog are the descendents of those living in Europe. Their statues are all over Europe as folk heroes. i am not quite sure what you mean by that. could you please elaborate? thanks. :-)

The Prophets (pbuh) prophecy of his followers after him being followers of Dajjal has been fulfilled. The whole world now follows Europeans and their baby nations. ??? are you essentially saying that the europeans are 'gog and magog'? i am asking because this is the impression i get from your post, to which i would not agree... i remember one hadith, which had the prophet muhammad (pbuh) saying that there's a 'wall' between gog and magog and the rest of the world...also would they not be killed by a 'worm' (or something similar to that)...(it's been a long time since i've last read on this topic)...

are not 'gog and magog' and the dajjal different phenomena/people/nations?

salam

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Posted: 14 April 2005 at 4:08am

Originally posted by mary

].....are not 'gog and magog' and the dajjal different phenomena/people/nations?...

Asslam-o-Aliakum

"The Prophet (pbuh) said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (i.e., Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys. A questioner asked: 'Is it because of us being low in numbers at that day?' The Prophet replied: 'No, you that day shall be in great numbers, but you will be as powerless as the foam of the water on the surface of the river, and Allah shall remove any fear from your enemies toward you, and He shall put in your hearts a corruption.' A questioner asked: 'O Apostle of Allah, what is the corruption?' The Prophet replied: 'The love of life's amusements and the fear of death.' (Abu Dawud, Book 37, Number 4297).

"The Prophet (pbuh) said: The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the great war comes, the outbreak of the great war will be at the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting (meaning Mu'adh ibn Jabal). (Abu-Dawud, Battles Book 37, Number 4281)"

The People of Gog and Magog will be the Polytheists from the idol worshipers, the people who believe in more than one God, and the Zionist Jews as described in this link.

.http://www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm

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Posted: 14 April 2005 at 3:28pm

asalamu alikm rahmat,

thank you for your link, i will read it when i've got more time (as it contains so much info), insh'Allah.

when i've finished, i will give some thoughts, insh'Allah.

PS i am merely asking because islam teaches us that we should not accept anything without proof and that's what i am trying to do.

salam,

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Posted: 14 April 2005 at 4:19pm

Originally posted by mary

.....PS i am merely asking because islam teaches us that we should not accept anything without proof and that's what i am trying to do.....

That's very true. Islam is the only faith which is based on 'rationalism'. It commands is Believers to search the truth 'within the boundaries' of Holy Qur'an and the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah.

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Rehmat Guest Group Joined: 28 February 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 474	Posted: 12 April 2005 at 4:31pm
	*Originally posted by DavidC* A not so well documented collection. [url]http://www.geocities.com/syed_fawad/islam/read.html[/url} 'Clicked'....no response!
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DavidC Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211	Posted: 13 April 2005 at 6:33am
	Fixed. Bad brackets. DavidC
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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Posted: 13 April 2005 at 7:05am
	Gog & Magog are the descendents of those living in Europe. Their statues are all over Europe as folk heroes. The Prophets (pbuh) prophecy of his followers after him being followers of Dajjal has been fulfilled. The whole world now follows Europeans and their baby nations. In the Bible there is a Mystery Babylon. This baby of Lon-don is America from which the Anti-Christ will rise. Anti means; opposite, carbon copy If you look at the images of Jesus we were given, he looks white. This is a carbon copy of the description of a very black man with nappy lamb's wool for hair. This is the Anti-Christ that the whole Christian world believes in. No offense intended.
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Rehmat Guest Group Joined: 28 February 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 474	Posted: 13 April 2005 at 12:43pm
	*Originally posted by blond* ....If you look at the images of Jesus we were given, he looks white. This is a carbon copy of the description of a very black man with nappy lamb's wool for hair. This is the Anti-Christ that the whole Christian world believes in..... Oops! Essa (Christ) was born in Nazareth (Palestine), whose inhibitants are 'light brown' - even today. The present-day image of Christ being a 'White-man (Roman)' was invented in 325 CE by the Church as King (St.) Constantine, which indirectly proves Jewish myth (Talmud) that Christ was a 'Pandora' (sic). However, if you visit France and Germany - there you could find some churches with 'Black Mary holding a Black Baby Jesus'!
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mary Newbie Joined: 11 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Posted: 13 April 2005 at 2:45pm
	asalamu alikum blond, Gog & Magog are the descendents of those living in Europe. Their statues are all over Europe as folk heroes. i am not quite sure what you mean by that. could you please elaborate? thanks. :-) The Prophets (pbuh) prophecy of his followers after him being followers of Dajjal has been fulfilled. The whole world now follows Europeans and their baby nations. ??? are you essentially saying that the europeans are 'gog and magog'? i am asking because this is the impression i get from your post, to which i would not agree... i remember one hadith, which had the prophet muhammad (pbuh) saying that there's a 'wall' between gog and magog and the rest of the world...also would they not be killed by a 'worm' (or something similar to that)...(it's been a long time since i've last read on this topic)... are not 'gog and magog' and the dajjal different phenomena/people/nations? salam Edited by mary
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Rehmat Guest Group Joined: 28 February 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 474	Posted: 14 April 2005 at 4:08am
	*Originally posted by mary* ].....are not 'gog and magog' and the dajjal different phenomena/people/nations?... Asslam-o-Aliakum "The Prophet (pbuh) said: 'The nations shall gather and team up against you (i.e., Muslims) as the predators gather and team up against their preys. A questioner asked: 'Is it because of us being low in numbers at that day?' The Prophet replied: 'No, you that day shall be in great numbers, but you will be as powerless as the foam of the water on the surface of the river, and Allah shall remove any fear from your enemies toward you, and He shall put in your hearts a corruption.' A questioner asked: 'O Apostle of Allah, what is the corruption?' The Prophet replied: 'The love of life's amusements and *the* fear of death.' (Abu Dawud, Book 37, Number 4297). "The Prophet (pbuh) said: The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the great war comes, the outbreak of the great war will be at the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting (meaning Mu'adh ibn Jabal). (Abu-Dawud, Battles Book 37, Number 4281)" The People of Gog and Magog will be the Polytheists from the idol worshipers, the people who believe in more than one God, and the Zionist Jews as described in this link. .http://www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm
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mary Newbie Joined: 11 April 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 7	Posted: 14 April 2005 at 3:28pm
	asalamu alikm rahmat, thank you for your link, i will read it when i've got more time (as it contains so much info), insh'Allah. when i've finished, i will give some thoughts, insh'Allah. PS i am merely asking because islam teaches us that we should not accept anything without proof and that's what i am trying to do. salam, mary
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Rehmat Guest Group Joined: 28 February 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 474	Posted: 14 April 2005 at 4:19pm
	*Originally posted by mary* .....PS i am merely asking because islam teaches us that we should not accept anything without proof and that's what i am trying to do..... That's very true. Islam is the only faith which is based on 'rationalism'. It commands is Believers to search the truth 'within the boundaries' of Holy Qur'an and the Prophet's (pbuh) Sunnah. Wa Salaam.
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