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Quote smanzoor Replybullet Topic: AIDS and Prostitution in Muslim World
    Posted: 28 April 2006 at 1:39pm

Dear All

Yesterday I met a haematologist (specialist in blood diseases) who works in a country in Middle East. He informed me that the incidence of HIV or AIDs is hitting alarming levels in the Muslim countries and the primary reason is prostitution (bahrain, dubai etc..)

He said many things but the most sad thing is the general unawareness and state of denial which very often results in tragedy like the infected person also transmists the disease to his wife.

Do you have more info about this?


 

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Quote Jenni Replybullet Posted: 28 April 2006 at 4:34pm
This is disgusting but true. I have a very good story. As an exchange student in Europe I and another friend had the chance to travel around and went to Greece. It was the end of the summer and we didn't have much money so we were staying in kind of a poor area where the hotels were cheaper. We are both American but could pass for eastern european. While walking around and shopping two men started following us and one came up to me and gave  me a rose. He said something to me in Russian and I said "WHat are you talking about?" He said "OH my God, you are American, I thought you and your friends were Russian girls LOOKING FOR FUN" Since I was writing an article about my experiences traveling in Europe I asked him If I could talk to him about where he is from and what he was doing in Greece. We went into a local bar and I interviewed. This is the story. He was on A business trip from Saudi Arabia, he was married with 3 children. He told me that every time he goes to europe he "HAS SOME FUN" with some of the local prostitutes. When I asked him why, he said"Why not?" My wife and I were pushed to marry, we don't love each other, were not friends, in fact we don't even like each other. We come from religous families and if we wanted to divorce both of our families would tell us no and be very angry. He then asked me if I would like to go out that night and party or come to Saudi and visit him and I kindly said no. Needless to say I told him next time don't pick up on a girl with long flower skirt a t-shirt, a back pack and clogs on, as she is surely not an eastern european prostitute but a western backpacking student.He apologized went on his way and I'm sure found the right girl(as I saw there wearing short skirts, high heels and lots of make up). The point of this story is it really happened to me, I know it happens all the time. Alot of those eastern european girls are on drugs and do have sexually transmitted diseases and Muslim men, local and tourists make up a good part of thier business. Especially traveling business men. Who knows what happens to these men and thier wives later, although I'm sure thier punishment in the afterlife WILL BE SEVERE!!!! Lastly I was not Muslim when this happened, and later became one, in spite of this odd event.
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Quote salman Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 4:49am

brother smanzoor

Islam forbids all such haram things. how then can it spread at an alarming level in muslim countries? that haematologist has given u the wrong information.  do not believe in what he says.

in future it may spread at an alarming level in the west especially in countries like u.s. where prostitution has been made legal, gay marriages have been made legal, where alcoholism is on the rise, where there are many pubs, bars, where women are raped every second, where there are no morals....

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Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:16am

Assalamu alaikum,

Brother Salman, I think you have to realize that there is a huge gap in the way Muslims are supposed to act (Islam) and the way they actually do act (reality).  While it is comforting and nice to think that all Muslims follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and behave in morally upright ways, the reality of that is that many do not. 

Closing our eyes to the spread of H.I.V./Aids in the Muslim world is not the way to stop the spread.  Saying it isn't so won't stop innocent wives (or husbands) from getting this terrible disease from their "straying" spouse. 

Education is the key.  People must be made aware of how the disease is spread and what to do if they have it.  And most of all, people must quit closing their eyes to this terrible thing and quit dying of shame in a society that won't accept that the disease is quickly spreading through it.

I mean no offense to you Brother, I am only trying to convey a truth that you don't seem to accept yet.  Please forgive me if I have offended you.

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Quote salman Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:28am
Originally posted by ummziba

Assalamu alaikum,

Brother Salman, I think you have to realize that there is a huge gap in the way Muslims are supposed to act (Islam) and the way they actually do act (reality).  While it is comforting and nice to think that all Muslims follow the Qur'an and Sunnah and behave in morally upright ways, the reality of that is that many do not. 

sister ummziba, u live in west. as i have already stated that it in future it may spread at an alarming level in west. u r giving the first indications to me that it is already on the rise in the west as the western muslims may be doing such haram things.

 

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Quote superme Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:35am
Salman bro, there is a country in Africa with about 40% of it's population are HID infected. What religion do you think African is? Beside this can pass on by sharing food, sharing utensils, sharing syringes etc. Through sexual intercouse is just one of them.
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Quote ummziba Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:36am

Assalalmu alaikum,

Oh, my dear brother Salman.  Now you are only showing comtempt.  So, only "western Muslims" stray from the path?  How ridiculous an assumption.  All my Muslim friends are from the east, they all regularly visit there and all have many friends and family there, if they know all about H.I.V./Aids spreading in the east, why don't you?

You are living in a "bubble" of self deception if you believe that only western Muslims are capable of straying while eastern Muslims live a fairy tale life of purity.

That is all I have to say on the subject as I fear I will become angered or unkind in response to such blatent "blindness" and stereotyping.  Have a nice day.

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Quote salman Replybullet Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:47am
i have also made my point, sister ummziba. have a nice day sister.
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