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Jenni
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You cant be a good muslim if you are not decent and have a cold heart. Be a decent and kind person and care for women and children and the elderly.
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salman
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Originally posted by foody
salman Salman do that to your son and the effect of with the FATHER is horrindous....your SON will love you for it instead of leaving him like you leave a boy in a forest! foody, forest boys are more smarter . don't you know that? don't you know how smart was tarzan? |
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It is better to be alone than to be in bad company.
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foody
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![]() Posted: 30 April 2006 at 8:41am |
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But we don't live in forests anymore, what we need is an environment suited for boys where there are no girls to distract or causing competitions between them. That is one step to success hence schools for boys and schools for girls, all this time we are feeling sorry for girls because we separate the classes for girls/boys, etc, but all along we were doing a perfect job for both the sexes. Now we harmed one gender big time and that are BOYS. Great stuff eh what we are doing, great stuff? |
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Apex
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Honestly the issue here is not a religious one. The freedom of boys is like that in a lot of cultures. I don't say most as I don't know "most" cultures myself. The same goes for Hispanic culture. Boys have a lot of freedom and the father is normally strict on the daughter. In patriarchal traditions boys are normally geared toward things which are considered "manly" and young girls geared towards things which are feminine. Children are bi-products of both parental influence and social environment. This is nothing new. What you are arguing Jenni is a matter of cultural upbringing. It's funny because when I used to go to college our professor made us split us up into small groups and we' have to argue our positions against one another on certain subjects and this subject regarding children and nature vs nurture came up. I remember learning a lot and all I know is that a lot of cultural traditions are this way. Even in some American societies this is how is is. The best you can do is worry about your own kids. |
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foody
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As I was coming up from the elevator I saw a mom, daddy and two beautiful boys entering the elevator one of the boy there he is all happy, smiling, energetic and in a good mischevous way, his smile on his face was like a cure of all diseases in the world. He IS perfect in every sense, in every sense and pure of heart, isn't this why we are fighting to save and protect for? Their smile and laughter gives us heart lift of joy and happiness we owe them at least to give them civilty, nurture and make sure they are confident on themselves and what better way to give this to them then making sure they are well educated? When I was in my home country in Lebanon I saw and heard children playing outside, their scream of laughter and playfulness was like a music to my ears, now here there is nothing but the sound of cars? What sort of society we live in today, did you not know that children and wealth are the joy of this world? Why take that away (I am talking here in the western world) I have yet to see a child play and scream joyfully without it been scripted or worse I have yet to hear a child play and scream of joy. And if there is, it is in restricted home zone area, saparation of city and family zone, all artifical to me....unnatural..* sigh *
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salman
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Originally posted by foody
salman foody, then u should not have quoted as below
Originally posted by foody
Salman do that to your son and the effect of with the FATHER is horrindous....your SON will love you for it instead of leaving him like you leave a boy in a forest!
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foody
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Salman
What does that have to do with anything? I really don't see your valid arguement there. Are you suggesting that the only reason fatherhood no more valid because we are not in caves and in forests like tarazan jumping from trees to trees? Yes the role of FATHERHOOD is much powerful on their boys, father and son, as well as it is important to girls too, but we cannot deny the fact that sons have what we call "hero-worship" and they seeks their desires from their fathers to teach them how to be a man, to teach them discipline, to show the the right path, TO MAKE their sons intellectual both spiritually and mentally. Come on dads * starts clapping his hands * stop letting the shaytaan telling you, you are wortheless..do YOU think for a second if the name of fatherhood or father not mentioned in the quraan many times that fatherhood is unimportant. FATHERS are not like the mothers that is a good thing as it makes balance between two worlds. As for my statement there, I ment is that if you show your son to behave well, to guide him in his troubled times, to support him many times when he falls and he will fall, he will fall so much you will lose count THAT is why you are there, to help him stand up again. That you AS HIS father will make a very superior impact on him he will do GOOD if not EXCELLENT job at schools and find better job to make him survive in this world. |
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salman
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![]() Posted: 30 April 2006 at 11:26pm |
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next time be careful of what you say foody as i cannot tolerate the statements which hurt me !
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