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tawhid
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Joined: 28 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62 |
![]() Topic: contradictions in the "holy" quran?Posted: 05 April 2005 at 9:36pm |
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both christians and muslims: before you post...read the whole thing! do not just browse and ASSume what will be said...these are serious claims and ones that to my knowledge (limited, sinful knowledge) has never been answered by any muslim even close enough to be satisfactory...neither ahmed deedat, bucaile or even badalwi and when you do rebuttle...the LAST thing you need to do is to say "but...but the bible is full of contradictions was well!" please...spare yourself...that is not the topic....if you refute the claim that the quran is contradictory with a claim that the bible is contradictory...you not only lost your chance of proving the the quran is truly 'holy" but also you have not answerd the questions posed by this thread...so in other words...do not answer these obvious contradictions with biblical contradictions..because that will not answer these questions of the validity of the koran....sukran wa saalam by the way...thist post has just barely touched the top of my objections of islam as a religion that has been around forever. wich i staunchly and humbly disbelieve ... blessings to you and yours! compiled by carm (christian apologetic & research ministry) comments encouraged! [edited] Contradictions in the Qur'an
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MOCKBA
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Joined: 27 September 2000 Location: Malaysia Online Status: Offline Posts: 1410 |
![]() Posted: 06 April 2005 at 2:26am |
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To answer the above "contradictions" in detail and other misunderstandings that may arise out of blindness, i would personally recommend Ulum al Qur'an by Ahmad von Denffer, these are basics widely available in English. This recommendation applies to those sincerely seeking understanding as for those who have other intentions - blind deaf and dumb that will never return... nor will they be satisfied MOCKBA |
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DavidC
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Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211 |
![]() Posted: 06 April 2005 at 7:54am |
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Perhaps perfection depends upon how one uses the Qu'ran. A hammer is
a perfect tool for driving nails, but you will be dissapointed if you try to crosscut a board with it. Using the Qu'ran to prove its' own authenticity seems backward to me. It seems a guide to draw one closer to God not to bring God down to human level. DavidC |
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blond
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Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218 |
![]() Posted: 06 April 2005 at 8:33am |
I believe ashes to ashes, dust to dust is your term. It represents man's physical beginning and end. It also represents the metaphysical state of non-productivity in which which a whole people could be termed as nothing and renamed after the state of death, i.e. "negro" (necro).
A person can take it or leave it. But ,when Allah decides to dole out justice for man's sins, there is no intercesion on his behalf.
Allah submits to the Law that He set up for His own creation. Allah is the Ultimate Example for us. Allah is the first Muslim.
A Prophet IS the physical manifestation of Mercy in the midst of the people. Allah will listen to his Prophet if the Prophet begs for Allah's mercy on those who deserve death. However, there is an end to mercy as well, it is called Justice.
Allah's way never changes. There is the temporal law, and there is the Eternal law. When the temporal is no longer necessary, it is abrogated. But the Eternal law never changes.
Pharoah's body was perserved (mummified) after his death. I beleive this is the meaning you seek.
I noticed tht your "interpretations" left out that the wine does not intoxicate the drinker. That is devilishment on your behalf.
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tawhid
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![]() Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:23pm |
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please...i need more input from muslims on this matter
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ummziba
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Joined: 16 March 2005 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Posts: 1158 |
![]() Posted: 07 April 2005 at 4:50am |
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Tawhid, You might find some answers you are looking for at this web site: When you get there, click on "Quran" in the left hand column. This will bring up many articles that you may find interesting. I hope this is helpful. Peace, ummziba. |
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AhmadJoyia
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Joined: 20 March 2005 Location: Pakistan Online Status: Offline Posts: 1161 |
![]() Posted: 08 April 2005 at 3:52pm |
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Dear Tawhid, I think if you are really serious about knowing the answer, the two websites referred above would be suffient to answer more than what you have asked. However, if you like our individual comments, then I would suggest that you breakdown your list topic wise one by one. Posting them here like a long list would not give due attention to anyone topic. So when you ask for more response, at least one should be able to know which particular topic needs more attention. Hope to see a good discussion on these points. Cheers! |
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tawhid
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Joined: 28 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 62 |
![]() Posted: 08 April 2005 at 3:54pm |
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Originally posted by AhmadJoyia
Dear Tawhid, I think if you are really serious about knowing the answer, the two websites referred above would be suffient to answer more than what you have asked. However, if you like our individual comments, then I would suggest that you breakdown your list topic wise one by one. Posting them here like a long list would not give due attention to anyone topic. So when you ask for more response, at least one should be able to know which particular topic needs more attention. Hope to see a good discussion on these points. Cheers! blessings to you my friend in the name of my lord the christ! due noted... wa salam tawhid |
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