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blond

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Topic: The Hereafter
Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:20am

Do you believe that this generation will see the Hereafter?

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Posted: 05 April 2005 at 9:31am

Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both?

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Posted: 05 April 2005 at 10:11am

Originally posted by Angel

Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both?

It is called the "HERE....... After".

I believe that Allah is currently living in the Here After. I have thought about this place in depth.

It must transcend time to be a place that is currently existing. However, there is a veil between us.

Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?

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Posted: 05 April 2005 at 4:23pm

The hereafter, if it exists, must be so different from this life that any who reach it would look back at our restricted life in this world as being quaint. The poor tools of understanding we have in this world are inadequate to understand any hereafter.

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Posted: 05 April 2005 at 5:27pm

I first heard that interpretation of the hereafter as being a dimensional
expansion of the present in an Indries Shas (sp?) book on sufism.

I find it an attractive and rather comforting idea. There used to be some
knowlegeable sufi types here, but I have not seen any posts since the
changeover.

DavidC
(who also finds the idea of sufis cussing at new software rather
comforting)

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:12am

Originally posted by blond

Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?

As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time).

To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once.

I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete

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Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:38am

Originally posted by Angel

As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time).

To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once.

I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete

Thanks.

It occurred to me that Here After means, here after; Here (now, where we are) After (after the power of Shaitan's power to rule or influence on Earth).

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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Topic: The Hereafter Posted: 05 April 2005 at 7:20am
	Do you believe that this generation will see the Hereafter?
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Angel Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6626	Posted: 05 April 2005 at 9:31am
	Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both? Edited by Angel
	[IMG]http://www.mysmilie.de/smilies/engel/img/003.gif" />~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Posted: 05 April 2005 at 10:11am
	*Originally posted by Angel* Hereafter for Heaven or hell, or both? It is called the "HERE....... After". I believe that Allah is currently living in the Here After. I have thought about this place in depth. It must transcend time to be a place that is currently existing. However, there is a veil between us. Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved?
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fezziwig Senior Member Joined: 29 October 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 1959	Posted: 05 April 2005 at 4:23pm
	The hereafter, if it exists, must be so different from this life that any who reach it would look back at our restricted life in this world as being quaint. The poor tools of understanding we have in this world are inadequate to understand any hereafter. F
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DavidC Senior Member Joined: 20 September 2001 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Posts: 2211	Posted: 05 April 2005 at 5:27pm
	I first heard that interpretation of the hereafter as being a dimensional expansion of the present in an Indries Shas (sp?) book on sufism. I find it an attractive and rather comforting idea. There used to be some knowlegeable sufi types here, but I have not seen any posts since the changeover. DavidC (who also finds the idea of sufis cussing at new software rather comforting)
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Angel Senior Member Joined: 03 July 2001 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6626	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:12am
	*Originally posted by blond* Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved? As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time). To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once. I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete
	[IMG]http://www.mysmilie.de/smilies/engel/img/003.gif" />~ Our feet are earthbound, but our hearts and our minds have wings ~
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blond Senior Member Joined: 30 March 2005 Online Status: Offline Posts: 218	Posted: 06 April 2005 at 5:38am
	*Originally posted by Angel* *Originally posted by blond* Do any of you believe it is possible to exist in the state of being in the Here After while we live, or before the Judgement of the World? If so, how is this achieved? As for the existence of the hereafter, I believe yes and no - I'm not sure my stance at the moment, but leading towards yes direction. For me its called the next life (time). To answer your question, and I'm not sure if this does, we cannot exist in the hereafter while we live this phyiscal existence, we cannot exist in two states of being at once. I think. This is still under review my me - so nothing is concrete Thanks. It occurred to me that Here After means, here after; Here (now, where we are) After (after the power of Shaitan's power to rule or influence on Earth).
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