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Quote kim! Replybullet Posted: 17 May 2005 at 11:08pm
Originally posted by deist

  I still recall his book "The evolution deceit".
Very bad author who doesnt really know what he writes about.
And no idea of logic or mathematics.

Sad that so many adhere to his views.


There's also a book called "Telling Lies for God" by Ian Plimer.

It debunks a lot of stuff from, or based on, the Bible.

Like the fact that of 2 of every type of animal was loaded onto the Ark in a 24 hour period, then literally thousands of animals were pouring onto the boat every second. Also - how did the animals arrive from all over the world? And how did no more than about 7 people clean and feed them every day?

Just some examples...   :}


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Quote kim! Replybullet Posted: 17 May 2005 at 11:11pm

Um, there are only 86,400 seconds in a day, not 864,000.


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Quote JohnDM Replybullet Posted: 18 May 2005 at 6:35am
Oh! Dear! I must do better.

And when I take Bible's time, times and half a time of 1,260 days (based
on the 360 days, a year in Hades, once Paradise, a parallel Earth) and
increase x 1.8 lots it is 2,268.

And as years and counting back from the Crucifixion in AD30 is 2239BC
the start of the Biblical Flood first down in Paradise, and then a local flood
on Earth covering Iraq and all around.

And when I increase 1,260 to 1.2600000e+39 x 18 lots at
2.268000e+40 I wait a moment.

For I now square root once and divided by the volume of the Great
Pyramid at 91,575,000 cubic feet and by the King's Chamber at 11,332
cubic feet and by the Queen's Chamber at 4990 cubic feet and by the
internal volume of the sarcophagus in the King's Chamber at
41.68626181 cubic feet, I am left with 697.661142 years.

Counting from noon on October 12, 1307 and so 12 hours before the
official time of the arrest of the Knight's Templar it is 6pm June 10, 2005.

So I say June 10, 2005 (19,000 days after the Queen was crowned) will be
a very, very BAD Day.

But then I never forward number crunch to dates that are unknown but
for June 10 2005 I make an exception.

So I wait to see if I get egg on my face, I do hope so.

"Ignorance is no refuge"
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Quote nadir Replybullet Posted: 21 May 2005 at 6:51am


Greetings JohnDM



I noticed you wisely stopped trying to combine your religious belief (with regards to Jesus [AS] & John the Baptist), with the scientific data you posted beforehand (although I see you have taken up such idiotic actions once again [I wrote this piece before observing your most recent post on the 18th])  



Unlike you I am able to combine the two (religion & science), as my religious source is prescient. In other words my source is directly pertaining to Divine Revelation, & hence free of human inaccuracies through interference.


If I may quote some verses from the Holy Qur’an….. (Surah 21. Al-Anbiya [The Prophets])



Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were joined together as one united piece, then We parted them? And We have made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

31.       And We have placed on the earth firm mountains, lest it should shake with them, and We placed therein broad highways for them to pass through, that they may be guided.

32.       And We have made the heaven a roof, safe and well-guarded. Yet they turn away from its signs.

33.       And He it is Who has created the night & the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating. 

34.       And We granted not any human being immortality before you (O Muhammad [SAW]); then if you die would they live forever?

35.       Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good. And to Us you will be returned.



“And He it is Who has created the night & the day, and the sun and the moon, each in an orbit floating.” [Surah 21; Verse 33]



Via your quote of mathematics, you spin the illusion that science knows (universal) gravity, however this is certainly not the case. Not only is science unable to illustrate how/why the stars & planets revolve/rotate, but also it is also unable to illustrate how celestial bodies maintain their orbits (ie the flaw in Einstein’s theory of relativity, that has lead to the term – ‘dark energy/matter’).


I would fear Allah (SWT) if I were you, for this knowledge has now been (scientifically) revealed – the Force is One Ilah – Allah (SWT), and His religion is Islamic Monotheism.


Predestination dictates that no one else will be able to unravel this mystery (save myself), hence my warning & advice to you is that, you earnestly seek to purify yourself before time is taken away (from you)!



To You (Alone) we worship, to You (Alone) we ask for help


Please Guide us to the Straight Path


The Path of those whom you have Blessed


Not (the way) of those whom incurred Your Anger


Nor of those who went astray




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Quote JohnDM Replybullet Posted: 24 May 2005 at 6:55am
'Miller X Factor'

Number Form Follows Measurement Function

OK, we know that Chris Carter created ‘The X Files’ as a television series
concerning two FBI agents named Fox Mulder and Dana Scully, in the FBI’s
Violent Crimes section. And they study the ‘X files’, the cases that have
unexplainable elements and often involve the paranormal. And that ‘The
X Files’ is not based on true events or real FBI X files. The episodes are
fiction, the plots loosely based on news reports of unexplained events
around the world.

Agent Fox William Mulder, an Oxford-trained psychologist with a
photographic memory, is one of the FBI Violent Crimes division's best
agents, although he is not too much liked by his superiors and also not
liked by his FBI colleagues because of his interest in the Bureau's X files. It
is said that he stumbled upon these files, dealing with unexplained
phenomena, during his first three years with the Bureau, as a crack
analyst in the Bureau's behavioral sciences department.

Fox W. Mulder’s work partner is Dana Katherine Scully, a medical doctor
with an undergraduate degree in physics from the University of Maryland.
She was recruited for the FBI right out of medical school, and had been
teaching at the FBI Academy. She was assigned by Section Chief Scott
Blevins to be Mulder's partner in order to keep an eye on him and
determine whether he is perhaps too obsessed with the X files. Scully is
skeptical of anything paranormal, believing that everything has a logical,
scientifically-quantified explanation.

So I say there needs to be an addition to ‘The X Files’ and that is the ‘The
X Factor’, a could be television series that is based on circumstantial
evidence to form and fashion each episode. Of course, there has to be
another actor and actress in the leading roles, and the Federal Bureau of
Investigation replaced by the make believe ‘FRIA’ the Fundamental
Religious Investigation Agency. And the ‘X’ in ‘The X Factor’ is the code
number ‘5536’ that represents the ‘Fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of
Good and Evil’.

Now the story that many know, that of the ‘Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge
of Good and Evil’ was that which Adam and Eve were not to eat but could
eat of all the fruit of the trees in the Garden except that one. But the
Serpent, that is Satan, was a persuasive advocate:
“The serpent asked the woman, "Did God really tell you not to eat from
any of the trees in the garden?" The woman answered the serpent: "We
may eat of the fruit of the trees in the garden; it is only about the fruit of
the tree in the middle of the garden that God said, `You shall not eat it or
even touch it, lest you die.'" But the serpent said to the woman: "You
certainly will not die! No. God knows well that the moment you eat of it
your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods who know what is
good and what is bad." The woman saw that the tree was good for food,
pleasing to the eyes, and desirable for gaining wisdom. So she took some
of the fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband, who was
with her, and he ate it. Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and
they realized that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and
made loincloths for themselves.” Genesis 2:1-7

The Serpent said three things about the ‘Tree of the Knowledge of Good
and Evil, that the fruit is sweet tasting, knowledge is a delight, and you
can be like God. The Serpent did also say that Eve would not die, so Satan
Now by eating the fruit, Eve names ‘Good and Evil’ for herself. It was
earlier in this chapter of Genesis, that God had given Adam the right to
name the animals according to their scientific order. But the naming of
‘Good and Evil’, God had kept back for himself. And man was given only
reason to consider both the ‘Good and Evil’, but man does not possess
the capacity for making the rules for ‘Good and Evil’ according to God’s
Laws. And humans have little knowledge of cause and effect.

Adam and Eve were first created in the other set of four dimensions, the
parallel world to our own set of four dimensions. For Adam and Eve were
first made of the ‘mankind’ and then into ‘humankind’. The ‘mankind’ is
in fact the spirit body that is housed in our earthen vessels until our
natural death, and then ‘Hey Presto!’ liberty of a kind.

So I feel that when Adam and Eve disobeyed God, he ejected them from
the ‘Garden’ in our natural world, and ensured that their angel changing
ability to switch across both sets of four dimensions at will, was removed.
The book of Genesis speaks of god-angels that take on human
appearance and eat like humans eat, but vanish into the other place when
they so decide. For Adam and Eve were also powerful trans-dimensional
beings, but they did not make the Laws like the trans-dimensional
Elohims. Until that is they ate from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good
and Evil, but even then they were restricted. But Satan himself seems to
have acquired more power, that of the dominion over the human race,
that was once Adam’s, but a ‘Time’ limited dominion. And of course to try
to ensure humanity would not rebel from the very idea of following the
dominion of the Serpent Satan who is Ahriman at 1770, the Ruler of
Darkness. This great archangel established himself the Arch Deceiver, so
that the human race would not know that he himself was the ‘Evil
Puppeteer’. And one of Satan’s main deceptions is that of his vast
emigration policy since the Deluge, the emigration down into his parallel
world, a policy that happens for many at death. For no human being at a
moment before death can choose that his or her spirit body and soul
enters not into another dimensional realm; for God’s Law at death is an
extremely important Law indeed, and so its at their death that many
Skeptics wake up so to speak. And all humans are as ‘Time Pilgrims’ and
controlled by the ‘Laws of Time’ and no human can stop the clock, for
humans can commit suicide but only God can burn their spirit body. And
Satan too is governed by the Laws of God yet thanks to Adam and Eve,
became a Law Maker of a kind himself.

OK now to the reference number 5536 for that of the ‘Fruit of the Tree of
the Knowledge of Good and Evil’.

Now the North Tower of the World Trade Center Complex was 1,368 feet
high (or 2 lots of Stars and Stripes at 684 or Death at 19 x 36).

And the South Tower was 1,362 feet (that is Blood at 227 x 6)

And the North + South Tower total 2,730 feet and the reciprocal of the
volume of the Great Pyramid at 91,575,000 cubic feet x 4 is

So the South Tower + the North Tower + the South Tower is 4,092 feet.

And Building Seven which also collapsed through 'fire' was 570 feet high.
(thrice Death at 190). So take a 'Pet Goat' at 152 (Death at 19 x 8) + 570
feet is 722 (the height of the Temple of Balbek columns is 72.2 feet
(Death 1.9 x 1.9 x 2).

Now the South Tower + the North Tower + the South Tower is 4,092 feet
+ Building Seven 570 feet + Building Seven 570 feet + two Pet Goats at
152 + 152 is 5,536 the reference number 5536 is that of the ‘Fruit of the
Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil’

And I suggest ‘Good’ is related to ‘Light’ and ‘Evil’ related to ‘Darkness’.

And ‘Light’ that is the velocity of light in a vacuum is some 186,282.526
miles per second (299,792.665kms) and ‘Darkness’ that is gravity moves
at 177,000 miles per second throughout the universe (unless affected by
Black Holes) is the reference number for the Great Black Frog called
Ahriman, the Deceiver.

And light at 186,262.526 miles per second x darkness at 177,000 miles
per second x the Aceribo Matrix at 23 x 73 is 5.53600000e+13.

So ‘Light’ x 23 seconds x ‘Darkness’ x 73 seconds is equivalent to
5.536000e+13, so the reference number for the ‘Fruit’ is 5536.

And the Sun’s diameter at 865,000 miles x 64 is 5.536000e+07.

So the ‘Fruit’ is of the Sun, the star, our star, a star that represents God’s

And the Sun at 865,000 miles is made up of 6 ‘Lamps’ (serpents) at
17,000 is 102,000 + ‘Fire’ at 109,000 x 7 lots.

And God in the form of a Serpent (see Moses) at 1.7000000e+70 x 6 is
1.0200000e+71 and square root twice is equivalent to the Sun at a
diameter at 865,000 miles x Pi x the ‘Fruit’ at 5,536 x the Moon at
2,159.9417 miles (3,476.08km) diameter x Pi x the ‘Fruit’ at 5,536.

Thus God's Order is of the Sun and the Moon x the ‘Fruit of the Tree of
the Knowledge of Good and Evil’.

But the ‘Woman’ that is Eve at 127, and increased to 1.270000e+16 and /
9 and square root is the ‘Fruit’ at 5536 x the circumference of the Moon
at 6,785.541 miles (/Pi is 2,159.905 miles) is hovering under the Serpent.

Yet, the Dragon’s power at 23, that is one of the Aceribo Matrix numbers,
is also represented by the Sun and the Moon. Because 2.300000e+58 x
the ratio 16/9 and square root and cube root and /Pi is equivalent to
865,000 miles x the Moon at 2,159.906 miles in diameter.

But the reference number for ‘Blood’ at 227 (x 6 is South Tower 1,362
feet) is found in the Sun and Moon. Because 2.270000e+59 x the ratio
16/9 and /Pi twice and square root and cube root and /Pi is equivalent to
the Sun at 865,000 miles x the Moon at 2,159.904 miles.

The Dragon really shows himself when he uses 14 x 23 at 322. And when
the power is 12 times 322 at 3,864 we can reveal the accurate
measurement from the Earth to the Moon. Because the Moon’s average
distance to the Earth is some 238,857.142 miles (384,403km) and the
Moon Earth distance x 7 is 1,672,000 miles. And 1,672,000 + the
Dragon’s 3,864,000 is the ‘Fruit’ at 5,536,000.

And 100 Sun’s days at 2,840 days and /4 and /Pi is 226 + Darkness at
1770 + 1770 + the Black Trinity of the Three Frogs of Ahriman at 1770 is
the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil at 5536.

And when I take the South Tower, the Bloody Tower at 1,362 feet and
increase to 1.362000e+31 x the Great Black Frog at 177,000 the Ruler of
Darkness, and divide by 1.5 and Pi and cube root twice is 9,282.321 miles
per second. And add 9,282.321 mps to Darkness 177,000 mps it is Light
at 186,282.321 mps (299,792.335kms).

Yes indeed, ignorance is no refuge.




On Sunday, August 19th 2001, and day 230 of the year and 23 days
before September 11th a very interesting crop formation appeared within
a wheat field near Wherwell, Hampshire, in the south of England. And
curiously the intricate crop formation appeared on the land of the
Chilbolton radio telescope facility, a site of some previous interesting
crop formations.

The ‘Arecibo Message’ was actually transmitted on November 16th 1974
and consisted of among other things a stick figure of a human, and some
of the biochemicals of earthly life. As the ‘Arecibo Message’ was sent in
linear sequence, one bit after the other, there is no given rightness or
wrongness to the mirror image of the transmission. The mirror image was
printed in Carl Sagan's ‘Cosmos’ and in many other textbooks, and yet
the original orientation is used in the field at Chilbolton. So those who
perpetrated the ‘Arecibo Message’ crop formation were emphasizing that
they knew the ‘Arecibo Message’ was a radio transmission, not of course
from Chilbolton, England, but from the Arecibo Radio Telescope on the
Caribbean island of Puerto Rico.

It was in 1974 that the most powerful radio broadcast ever deliberately
beamed into space was sent from the Arecibo Radio Telescope in Puerto
Rico. The transmission consisted of a simple, pictorial message, aimed at
any ‘intelligent’ being in the globular star cluster M13. And the beam
aimed at the globular star cluster M13 is some 22,800 light years away
and consists of some 300,000 stars in the constellation of Hercules, that
is near the edge of the Milky Way galaxy.

The giant size of the reflector is what makes the Arecibo Observatory so
special to scientists. It is the largest curved focusing antenna on planet
Earth, which means it is the world's most sensitive radio telescope. Other
radio telescopes may require several hours observing a given radio source
to collect enough energy for analysis, whereas at Arecibo this may require
just a few minutes of observation. The Arecibo Radio Telescope uses a
reflecting surface, or radio mirror, a huge ‘dish’ some 305 metres or
1,000 feet in diameter and 167 feet deep, and covers an area of about
twenty acres. The surface is made of almost 40,000 perforated aluminum
panels, each measuring about 3 feet by 6 feet, supported by a network of
steel cables. The Arecibo Radio Telescope is a spherical and not a
parabolic reflector.

The message sent to star cluster M13 used Arecibo's megawatt
transmitter attached to its 305 meter antenna and so concentrated the
transmitter’s energy by beaming it into a very small area of sky. The
message consists of 1679 bits, (that is 1679 pulses of binary code)
arranged into 73 lines of 23 characters per line (these are both prime
numbers). The ‘ones’ and ‘zeroes’ were transmitted by frequency shifting
at the rate of 10 bits per second. The total broadcast was less than three
minutes long, using the 2,380 MHz band, a short wavelength of some

Earth and 666

So the number 1679 is the unique product of two prime numbers 23 by
73 and I read that any intelligent life-form would no doubt look for
unique universal constructs such as prime numbers, chemical element
frequencies and binary digits. And because the two prime numbers 23
and 73, when multiplied together, produce 1679 there can only be a
single way to arrange the signal, if you were converting it into a matrix
grid of 23 squares by 73 squares. And the jackal masked Ancient
Egyptian god Anubis, the god of the Dead has the reference number 63 x
23 + 230 is 1679. And the Biblical number for the Dead of the second
death is ‘666’ and 2,380 MHz x 23 x 73 is equivalent to 666,000 x
6.000003030, so the fundamental ‘Aceribo Message’ says, “Earth, the
grave, is of the Order 666.”

"Ignorance is no refuge"
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Quote DavidC Replybullet Posted: 24 May 2005 at 9:49am
Tell me something that is goingto happen in the future, John. Anything at
all - just a good solid prediction specific to date and time.

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Quote ibn_abi_waqqas Replybullet Posted: 24 May 2005 at 10:12am

The thread was about the expansion of the universe, but you guys are talking about what!?

The Arabic wording of the verse definitely suggests the modern discovery that the universe is expanding.

Some people cite old translations of the verse in order to prove that Muslims now mistranslate it in order to fit it with the new discovery. However, they are wrong: Those translations are all interpretations rather than genuine translations. "... wa inna la moosi'oon" means "... and we are extending it in size" or "we are expanding it".

Say: "This is my way: I do invite to Allah - on evidence clear as the seeing with one's eyes- I and whoever follows me. Glory to Allah. I will never join imaginary gods with Allah."
(Qur'an: 12,108)
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Quote JohnDM Replybullet Posted: 24 May 2005 at 11:02am

I never predict.

Or rather I predicted in late November 2002 that February 1, 2003 would
be a day called a "Ring of Fire" and I told people.

And what happened was the space shuttle Columbia, (who is Miss 666
which converts to 1,456 and x 30/16 is 2730 feet the heights of both
Twin Towers), which burned up in the last moments of its last orbit.

And take the eagle's wing's off 1,456 is 508 + 508 and counting from
9am September 11th 2001 as the North Tower was burning after being
struck by a make-believe passenger plane to 9am February 1, 2003 when
the fire was raging through Columbia is 508 days. So Columbia with its
wings burn off crashed in pieces as the shadow of the North Tower was
seen burning back in time.

Anyway, I suggest, and NO telepathic mind stuff is involved, just some
calculations, I say that Friday June 10, 2005 will be a BAD DAY.

Just a suggestion.

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