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    Posted: 23 February 2006 at 4:59pm
Hello. In my city there is a Unitarian Universalist society. For those of you who do not know them, they are a non-creedal religion. They are welcoming of all religions of faith and cultures. I know in Islam it is a sin to be a part of any other creed than that of Islam, but if a society is non-creedal is it ok to attend services?
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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 24 February 2006 at 5:47pm
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There is no such thing as non creedal religion, for it to be a religion it must have a creed saying otherwise is like saying they have no beliefs.

There site it self says they represent 1000 North american congretions http://www.uua.org/ This is a chrisitian group sister, the only diference is they are Unitarian not Trinitatrian as far as i can tell,they are also humanist which may as well be the worship of the self or human being as they ascribe final judgment to themself and not to Allah since they believe there own selfs are worthy of overriding or abrogating any revelation known to man when it suits them.

It would not be advisable to go to there congretions as it is another faith with diferent beliefs than ours. islam says look at all the religions study them then see which is the truth it does not teach us that Allah has not given us any revelation.

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With its historical roots in the Jewish and Christian traditions, Unitarian Universalism is a liberal religion -- that is, a religion that keeps an open mind to the religious questions people have struggled with in all times and places. We believe that personal experience, conscience and reason should be the final authorities in religion, and that in the end religious authority lies not in a book or person or institution, but in ourselves. We are a "non-creedal" religion: we do not ask anyone to subscribe to a creed.

Our congregations are self-governing. Authority and responsibility are vested in the membership of the congregation. Each Unitarian Universalist congregation is involved in many kinds of programs. Worship is held regularly, the insights of the past and the present are shared with those who will create the future, service to the community is undertaken, and friendships are made. A visitor to a UU congregation will very likely find events and activities such as church school, day-care centers, lectures and forums, support groups, poetry festivals, family events, adult education classes and study groups.

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The living tradition which we share draws from many sources:

  • Direct experience of that transcending mystery and wonder, affirmed in all cultures, which moves us to a renewal of the spirit and an openness to the forces which create and uphold life;
  • Words and deeds of prophetic women and men which challenge us to confront powers and structures of evil with justice, compassion, and the transforming power of love;
  • Wisdom from the world's religions which inspires us in our ethical and spiritual life;
  • Jewish and Christian teachings which call us to respond to God's love by loving our neighbors as ourselves;
  • Humanist teachings which counsel us to heed the guidance of reason and the results of science, and warn us against idolatries of the mind and spirit.
  • Spiritual teachings of earth-centered traditions which celebrate the sacred circle of life and instruct us to live in harmony with the rhythms of nature.


The underlaying basis for this group is Jewish and Christian traditions not islamic, i also think what they mean by non creedal is that they do not ask people to leave there respected christian dinomonation or change there creed, but there creed is certainly christian unless this is an athiest group which doesnt believe in god.

Creed: 1 : a brief authoritative formula of religious belief
2 : a set of fundamental beliefs; also : a guiding principle

you can not call your self a religion and say we have no creed ie no beliefs this is an oxymoron.



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Rasul Allah (sallah llahu alaihi wa sallam) said: "Whoever knows himself, knows his Lord" and whoever knows his Lord has been given His gnosis and nearness.
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Quote DavidC Replybullet Posted: 24 February 2006 at 9:08pm
Unitarians were a branch of Christianity a long time ago. Nowdays they are
co-religionist society who dislike being called a church or religion.

They are nice people, but do not really stand for anything. Members sort of
build their own religion from whatever they can research or imagine. I knew
one group that had regular "Mevlevi-ish" whriling practices and you could go
and see homosexuals and neopagans getting dizzy and thinking they were
being enlightened.
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I thought they called it "Freedom of expression" and freedom to marry your other half, be it man or woman. Another self-interpretation or rather self-demolition equalled to ARMARGEDON. Perhaps, as alike as two peas.   

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