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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 20 December 2005 at 5:13pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

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anti christ = anti spirituality = materialsm and all that satisfies the nafs such as lusts desires etc.

one reason why secular society is seen as a great evil, it places no limits on and actively promotes lusts.
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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 20 December 2005 at 5:22pm

Capisce.  I finished reading Muhammad Asad's The Road to Mecca and find his ideas concerning Dajjal rather insightful, if arguable.  

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Quote rami Replybullet Posted: 20 December 2005 at 7:37pm
Bi ismillahir rahmanir raheem

care to sumerise his views, i am not familiar with them.
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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 21 December 2005 at 1:11pm

Originally posted by rami

care to sumerise [Muhammad Asad's] views, i am not familiar with them.

Very briefly, and operating here from an at times faulty memory, the noteworthy idea is Muhammad Asad's (otherwise known as Leopold Weiss's) recognition of the metaphorical aspect of Dajjal's one, or single eye.  In the book, he tells his Sheikh, and his Sheikh approves the observation, that the single eye of Dajjal might be understood as the West's fully open eye of Materialism and material accomplishment, yet increasingly closed -or perhaps, more accurately, atrophied- Spiritual eye.  Asad was writing in the earlier part of the last century.

Near the same time, and again only as I recall, this same observation was made by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, the founder of the Ahmadiyya sect.  If I have the correct person here, it was, in fact, in part because he was said to be able to both recognize and identify Dajjal (the term relates, in this case, not only to Western secularism but also to British Imperialism, wherein it becomes entangled in complicated conspiracy) that his followers acknowledged him as the promised Mahdi, of sorts, and hence the sect's name, I presume.  Again, though, that is in a nut-shell, and, these days, the idea that the one eye of Dajjal is the open Materialistic eye of the West seems quite current in Islam as a sort of accomplished fact, as, for example, even Abdal Hakim-Murad reiterates the theme in one of his articles.

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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 21 December 2005 at 4:57pm

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The definition of 'anti-Semite,' at least the American-English version, should be broad enough to cover anyone who disagrees with Norman Podhoretz, including his wife.

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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 21 December 2005 at 10:56pm

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anti christ = anti spirituality = materialsm and all that satisfies the nafs such as lusts desires etc.

I disagree

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Quote Angel Replybullet Posted: 21 December 2005 at 10:58pm

Hello Servetus

come by the pond more often and say hi

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Quote Servetus Replybullet Posted: 22 December 2005 at 10:36am

(Thanks, Angel.)

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