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Quote Community Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:22am
And i agree with you they should let those people go, a true muslim shows strength and not resort to the ways of the ignorant by taking hostages and appearing on TV with masks on with demands. Allah has kept the faithful strong, but it is kufr(ungratefulness) that makes people blind.
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Quote Community Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 7:27am
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Surah 42 - Ash -Shura

39. And those who, when an oppressive wrong is done to them, they take revenge.

40. The recompense for an evil is an evil like thereof, but whoever forgives and makes reconciliation, his reward is due from Allh. Verily, He likes not the Zlimn (oppressors, polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.).

41. And indeed whosoever takes revenge after he has suffered wrong, for such there is no way (of blame) against them.

42. The way (of blame) is only against those who oppress men and wrongly rebel in the earth, for such there will be a painful torment.

43. And verily, whosoever shows patience and forgives that would truly be from the things recommended by Allh.




Retaliating is allowed, but to kill aid workers because they are US Citizens or peace activists....Allah does not love the unjust nor does he help them. Allah is with the patient and they who mend, themselves and the world in general.
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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 9:57am

Bismillah,

Both of you need to stop being so violent!  Every life is precious, even yours.  Take care of yourselves.  Take a walk, play sports, give to the community and get over your depression.

Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Quote Community Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 10:45am

lol



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Quote Osama Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 12:23pm



I will fight oppression as long as it remains

Only then will depression no longer remain



If you wish to accept oppression that is your game

To you is your way, for me is mine!





To herjihad

Have I ever interfered with you in any way?

Then why is it that you nag at me? Only Allah knows my way!




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Quote herjihad Replybullet Posted: 08 December 2005 at 1:46pm

Bismillah,

Telling a woman she is nagging at you doesn't engender good feelings.  LOL!

Who are you?  You change your name too often for me to identify you in any consecutive, meaningful way.  Anyone who talks about committing wild, aggressive, violent acts interferes with the peace of the Umma of Prophet Muhammad, pbuh.

Oh, and btw, I have fought oppression more than you ever will.



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Al-Hamdulillah (From a Married Muslimah) La Howla Wa La Quwata Illa BiLLah - There is no Effort or Power except with Allah's Will.
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Surah 18 - Al-Kahf (The Cave)

32.
And put forward to them the example of two men; unto one of them We had given two gardens of grapes, and We had surrounded both with date-palms; and had put between them green crops (cultivated fields etc.).

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Each of those two gardens brought forth its produce, and failed not in the least therein, and We caused a river to gush forth in the midst of them.

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And he had property (or fruit) and he said to his companion, in the course of mutual talk: I am more than you in wealth and stronger in respect of men."

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And he went into his garden while in a state (of pride and disbelief) unjust to himself. He said: "I think not that this will ever perish.

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"And I think not the Hour will ever come, and if indeed I am brought back to my Lord, (on the Day of Resurrection), I surely shall find better than this when I return to Him."

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His companion said to him, during the talk with him: "Do you disbelieve in Him Who created you out of dust (i.e. your father Adam), then out of Nutfah (mixed semen drops of male and female discharge), then fashioned you into a man?

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"But as for my part (I believe) that He is Allah, my Lord and none shall I associate as partner with my Lord.

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It was better for you to say, when you entered your garden: 'That which Allah wills (will come to pass)! There is no power but with Allah '. If you see me less than you in wealth, and children.

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"It may be that my Lord will give me something better than your garden, and will send on it Husban (torment, bolt, etc.) from the sky, then it will be a slippery earth.

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"Or the water thereof (of the gardens) becomes deep-sunken (underground) so that you will never be able to seek it."

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So his fruits were encircled (with ruin). And he remained clapping his hands with sorrow over what he had spent upon it, while it was all destroyed on its trellises, he could only say: "Would I had ascribed no partners to my Lord!"

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And he had no group of men to help him against Allah, nor could he defend or save himself.

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There (on the Day of Resurrection), Al-Walayah (the protection, power, authority and kingdom) will be for Allah (Alone), the True God. He (Allah) is the Best for reward and the Best for the final end. (La ilaha ill-Allah none has the right to be worshipped but Allah).



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Quote Osama Replybullet Posted: 09 December 2005 at 9:27am

peace be upon you
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herjihad stated: "Oh, and btw, I have fought oppression more than you ever will."

OK, but please excuse me if i don't wish to be of those professing to know the unseen, heee heee!



Narrated Said bin Jubair:

I said to Ibn Abbas, "Nauf Al-Bukah claims that Moses, the companion of Al-Khadir was not Moses (the prophet) of the children of Israel, but some other Moses." Ibn 'Abbas said, "Allah's enemy (i.e. Nauf) has told a lie.

Ubai bin Ka'b told us that the Prophet said, 'Once Moses stood up and addressed Bani Israel. He was asked who was the most learned man amongst the people. He said, 'I.' Allah admonished him as he did not attribute absolute knowledge to Him (Allah).

So, Allah said to him, 'Yes, at the junction of the two seas there is a Slave of Mine who is more learned than you.' Moses said, 'O my Lord! How can I meet him?' Allah said, 'Take a fish and put it in a large basket and you will find him at the place where you will lose the fish.' Moses took a fish and put it in a basket and proceeded along with his (servant) boy, Yusha 'bin Nun, till they reached the rock where they laid their heads (i.e. lay down). Moses slept, and the fish, moving out of the basket, fell into the sea. It took its way into the sea (straight) as in a tunnel. Allah stopped the flow of water over the fish and it became like an arch (the Prophet pointed out this arch with his hands).

They travelled the rest of the night, and the next day Moses said to his boy (servant), 'Give us our food, for indeed, we have suffered much fatigue in this journey of ours.' Moses did not feel tired till he crossed that place which Allah had ordered him to seek after. His boy (servant) said to him, 'Do you know that when we were sitting near that rock, I forgot the fish, and none but Satan caused me to forget to tell (you) about it, and it took its course into the sea in an amazing way?.' So there was a path for the fish and that astonished them. Moses said, 'That was what we were seeking after.' So, both of them retraced their footsteps till they reached the rock.

There they saw a man Lying covered with a garment. Moses greeted him and he replied saying, 'How do people greet each other in your land?' Moses said, 'I am Moses.' The man asked, 'Moses of Bani Israel?' Moses said, 'Yes, I have come to you so that you may teach me from those things which Allah has taught you.' He said, 'O Moses! I have some of the Knowledge of Allah which Allah has taught me, and which you do not know, while you have some of the Knowledge of Allah which Allah has taught you and which I do not know.' Moses asked, 'May I follow you?' He said, 'But you will not be able to remain patient with me for how can you be patient about things which you will not be able to understand?' (Moses said, 'You will find me, if Allah so will, truly patient, and I will not disobey you in aught.')

So, both of them set out walking along the sea-shore, a boat passed by them and they asked the crew of the boat to take them on board. The crew recognized Al-Khadir and so they took them on board without fare. When they were on board the boat, a sparrow came and stood on the edge of the boat and dipped its beak once or twice into the sea. Al-Khadir said to Moses, 'O Moses! My knowledge and your knowledge have not decreased Allah's Knowledge except as much as this sparrow has decreased the water of the sea with its beak.' Then suddenly Al-Khadir took an adze and plucked a plank, and Moses did not notice it till he had plucked a plank with the adze. Moses said to him, 'What have you done? They took us on board charging us nothing; yet you I have intentionally made a hole in their boat so as to drown its passengers. Verily, you have done a dreadful thing.' Al-Khadir replied, 'Did I not tell you that you would not be able to remain patient with me?' Moses replied, 'Do not blame me for what I have forgotten, and do not be hard upon me for my fault.' So the first excuse of Moses was that he had forgotten. When they had left the sea, they passed by a boy playing with other boys.

Al-Khadir took hold of the boys head and plucked it with his hand like this. (Sufyan, the sub narrator pointed with his fingertips as if he was plucking some fruit.) Moses said to him, "Have you killed an innocent person who has not killed any person? You have really done a horrible thing." Al-Khadir said, "Did I not tell you that you could not remain patient with me?' Moses said "If I ask you about anything after this, don't accompany me. You have received an excuse from me.' Then both of them went on till they came to some people of a village, and they asked its inhabitant for wood but they refused to entertain them as guests. Then they saw therein a wall which was just going to collapse (and Al Khadir repaired it just by touching it with his hands). (Sufyan, the sub-narrator, pointed with his hands, illustrating how Al-Khadir passed his hands over the wall upwards.) Moses said, "These are the people whom we have called on, but they neither gave us food, nor entertained us as guests, yet you have repaired their wall. If you had wished, you could have taken wages for it." Al-Khadir said, "This is the parting between you and me, and I shall tell you the explanation of those things on which you could not remain patient." The Prophet added, "We wished that Moses could have remained patient by virtue of which Allah might have told us more about their story. (Sufyan the sub-narrator said that the Prophet said, "May Allah bestow His Mercy on Moses! If he had remained patient, we would have been told further about their case.")


[Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55 (Book of Knowledge), Number 613]

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